Mayweather is the Best. Deal With It!

Last year, Margarito was one of the most underrated fighters, now i think his the most overrated!!! He hasn't beat any elite fighter.

How do you know he cant do that? You saying hes never fucked any fighter before? But thats beside my point, i dont care to argue the subject, my point was that Arum has made a huge deal out of this, and no matter whos side your on, these thread destroy the first page nearly everyday. I said "bob arum is ruining this site". You got mad, I explained to you why you shouldnt try to take it out on me over one comment, end of discussion. It's a non-issue, period. Floyd turned down the offer and no one can prove the offer was not legit. It's just a weird pulled-out-of-the-ass excuse for Floyd. It just makes no sense whatsoever that the offer was not legit. If Arums's offer was not legit, then there was no point in him even making it in the 1st place. The only way it could have been proven to be illegit is by Floyd agreeing verbally to fight and Arum trying to change the dollar amount at the least minute (which is illegal if Floyd had already signed a contract for $8 million).

Yeah, I know...'haters' this, 'haters' that. Get real. If that is all you have you need to go back to drawing board. If you don't want the best fighters to fight each other, and you are ok with Floyd staying on his current course, then you just don't get it and you never will. If Floyd will do this and do that so easily to Marg, then step up and do that shit for an 'easy' $8 million. I don't want to hear how easy it will be. Floyd seems to be the only Floyd fan who is showing Marg some kind of respect by not trashing him...

The sooner you realize fans want to see Floyd tested vs Margarito, the better. There is no way around this for Floyd fans. This is the main fight that needs to happen at 147 according to most scribes and insiders. It is not because they are all Floyd haters either. Furthermore, this is not about Margarito 'deserving' to fight Floyd, it's about the so-called best fuckin fighter in the world proving his motherfuckin worth by takin on all reasonably acceptable comers. So basically, Floyd can fight this bulldog Mexican, or he can take the heat for avoiding him. It's his choice. But if Floyd is going to campaign at 147, then he has no choice but to take on Margarito...sometime this century. Margarito aint no test, he a practice test with the answers next to the question, u dont have to study to get margarito, he simple. All he going to do is come forward with head up and open. And who are these insiders and scribes, a bunch of followers and drones who need to be told who is good. anybody with 1 eye can see Margarito dont have the skills to win against floyd, those looping slow punches aint gon hit nothing. Only these ray charles fans will be groupies and say margarito is da monsta that Bob and maxbox say he is. and the best fighter in the world doesnt have to prove his worth against a nobody with a weak paper title belt, a weak career, and weak skills. Who is margarito? What makes margarito this test, what can he do to really give Floyd problems? What significant fighter has he given problems to? margarito will get his ass whooping when Floyd feel like giving it to him or until he gets off his ass and actually fights someone ranked to make him mandatory instead of fighting #10 and #15 of the WBO for the last 4 or 5 yrs.

*yawn* I'm growing tired of e-wars where both sides' only refuge is to overreact to everything the other side says. This is most assuredly not the first article that so happily defends Floyd and chides his detractors. To the point, you are simply overestimating the amount of 'haters' Floyd has. It is not 'hating' to expect Floyd to take a challenging fight sometime this damn year. nobody is overestimating anything with you damn haters all you guys talk about is floyd ducking marg it's so fucking old. but you same guys talking this shit won't say anything about hatton, mosley, or dlh not wanting to fight mayweather when he offered them fights i wonder why that is "HATERS". marg was never the man at welter, when floyd moved up it was zab and now baldy but you fucking haters will talk shit if floyd-baldy happens. it's a lose/lose situation for floyd because of boxing fans like you, when he beats these guys i'm sure you will have another reason to attack floyd. what you guys need to do is learn the business of boxing, "when and if" marg finally fights someone credible to build up his resume this fight will be huge.

That's not how burden of proof works. You can learn this in any criminology class. if Arum is guilty of something, it has to be proven. It has not been. How the hell is he going to lie about $8 million? You act like Arum doesn't have the cash. Arum is rich off his ass. And what's he gonna do, tell Floyd there's $8 million waitin and then say 'nevermind'? You can't do that. How do you know he cant do that? You saying hes never fucked any fighter before? But thats beside my point, i dont care to argue the subject, my point was that Arum has made a huge deal out of this, and no matter whos side your on, these thread destroy the first page nearly everyday. I said "bob arum is ruining this site". You got mad, I explained to you why you shouldnt try to take it out on me over one comment, end of discussion.

That's not how burden of proof works. You can learn this in any criminology class. if Arum is guilty of something, it has to be proven. It has not been. How the hell is he going to lie about $8 million? You act like Arum doesn't have the cash. Arum is rich off his ass. And what's he gonna do, tell Floyd there's $8 million waitin and then say 'nevermind'? You can't do that.

PBF's fanboys have ruined logical thought there. Stop with all the BS. You have no proof whatsoever that Arum's offer was anything but legit. It's just a cute way for you to try to excuse him not fighting Tony. Get with it and pull your lips away from Floyd's coin purse for a second. I dont have any proof of anything that anything between anything ever happened with Arum/Floyd, and I dont care, I'm tired of reading this, this thread is just like 300 other threads on here. You can argue in circles if you want, you can accuse me of not "thinking logically" which if you have seen me post, is usually one of the last mistakes i ever make. I have as much proof as you do. Both of us have the illustrious evidence of "hearsay" Infact, you want logic? Logic says fight promoters arent exactly the most trustworthy people. Logic says that while you accuse me of hugging Floyd, I could turn the tables and ask why are you taking a fight promoters offer like you read the contract for yourself? I could turn the tables and ask you what proof do we have that the offer was legit? Logic says, weather you want Floyd to take this fight or not, its the main topic of this board every single day. Logic says Arum and Floyd dont exactly like each other. Logic says Margarito is promoted by Arum. This is why i said "Bob Arum has ruined this site". I dont care whos side your on, or how upset that you are that I just happen to support Floyd with some of his actions, big deal. I have seen some of your points that you have argued the last couple of weeks, and your stance never seems to change, and not only that, some of the comments you have made like wins over 6Heads Lewis and Cintron are the same as Gatti/Zab are just rediculous and make it look like your just reaching further and further until you look "correct". The way you responded to me makes it seem like you want to make this entire endeavor a personal issue, your going to have to take that shit elsewhere, because one comment i make shouldnt warrant you to act like i have been arguing with you in this thread page after page. I havent, for every comment about "hugging floyd" there is an equal and opposite amount of hugging for those who advocate blindly in Margarito's favor, there are 2 sides to every coin, if im guilty of it, then your guilty of it, your not different than anyone else posting in this thread.

By the time Floyd fights again in November he will have officially wasted 50% of his career since first becoming champ on fighting sub-standard opposition. That's 4 years without taking on the best in his division :eek: If that doesn't prove that you're P4P No1 then I don't know what does.

If PBF ducks Marga and fights Baldo, then he's not the best and PAC will easily take his place as the p4p king.

PBF's fanboys have ruined logical thought there. Stop with all the BS. You have no proof whatsoever that Arum's offer was anything but legit. It's just a cute way for you to try to excuse him not fighting Tony. Get with it and pull your lips away from Floyd's coin purse for a second.

Bob Arum and his stupid campaign have ruined this site

Then fight the champs at 140 and 147, simple as. and his boys can stop making pointless threads like this.

Floyd may very well be the best. He hasn't proved it yet though. Not at 147.

Floyd is the current best

DLT, you are purely talkin out of your ass. I never said Tony was the man. Collazo has not been in the ring with elite guys at 147. One fight is one man...not plural, not guys. He fought Hatton, who was elite at 140, not 147. Baldy's resume is no better than Tony's. For you to say that he is somehow clearly owning tbe better resume is ridiculous. Gatti was old as fuck. You claim thatnot Quintana or Williams earn Tony a shot vs Floyd. You have no idea what you are talking about. Tony is already a top 5 guy in the divison. Floyd needs to fight him if he is to campaign at 147. This is very simple. I can't make it any simpler for you. If you do not understand, and want to continue to belittle any win that Tony has had...good for you. Peace.

Its so funny how all the haters keep saying that this is a biased nuthugging article but think the articles dissing Floyd is so great? I think those articles are biased and clearly driven by hate no they are not but its a double edge sword floyd is not even the #1 guy in his divition right now, im sorry but fighting Judah coming out of a loss, sharmba mitchell at welter do not make you "the man" and Gatti, Bruselles, and Cortley at 140...... yes thats the top notch competition "the man" should have.... here are a few names he could fight Hatton Cotto (wants no part of floyd) Margarito Shane DLH Baldo but i guess he is soo great we dont even have to see the fights cause we know he will win the all right champ??

That article was stupid. Whoever wrote it is obviously the biggest Mayweather fan out there. Blaming on the choosing of his opponents because of brittle hands ??? what fighter hanst had hand problems ? I can name a few right now Malignaggi, Gatti , Delahoya. Gatti usually almost always breaks his hand in every fight. This is just a bunch of damn excuses to face the reality that he is clearly avoiding the most dangerous fighters in the welterweight division. Agreed the article was blatanly biased, however can you answer me one question.In fact can any of you answer my question. Thus far Floyd has fought the likes of Corrales when undefeated champion, Castillo twice, Zab Judah, Gatti, to name a few. What fighters amongst those asking for a shot, or those in close to the same weight class, have taken on opponents the equal of Floyd? Yes it's time again to take on a big gun, but he at least deserves some respect for the opponents he has beaten. Some of the guys you mention have beaten no one period.

yeah mmm that article is as unbiast as anyarticle a pinoy could write about manny or a mexican could write about JCC :boxing: Its so funny how all the haters keep saying that this is a biased nuthugging article but think the articles dissing Floyd is so great? I think those articles are biased and clearly driven by hate

If you cannot be satisfied with Quintana or Williams then you will never be satisfied. There is no one else really to beat. Baldy doesn't mention Tony, Hatton is busy, etc. etc. Quintana is certainly not as sucky as Julio, because he beat the shit out of Julio. It's a never ending circle of bullshit with you. No one is good enough for Tony to 'earn' a shot vs Floyd. It doesn't matter who he beats. Your statement about Cintron almost getting beat by Reid is utter bullshit. You have been hyping Reid's performance in that fight for the longest. Reid got his ass whooped, plain and simple. Reid has power and landed a shot or three on Cintron, and it didn't matter. Cintron controlled the fight and destroyed him. Reid was not shot in that fight...starting to fade, but not shot. You continue to exaggerate. Collazo has in NO way proved to be any better than Quintana. In his one big fight he lost, period. I've seen both Steve and Collazo fight, and Quintana is every bit as good...plus he hits harder. Collazo is not somehow the big key to Tony deserving a fight with Floyd. As for Floyd being an elite guy proving himself 'over and over again'...that simply has not been demonstrated at 147 yet. One way he can do this is to take on Margarito who is a top 5 guy at 147. Very simple: When you are the supposed badass of a division, you take on the top contenders in that division. There is no debate. It's over. Moving on. What are you even talking about? How can you say that I will not be happy no matter who Margarito fights? Just because I said that those wins are solid but nothing special. You think Im the only one who feels that way? Those guys are rookies. Whats so hard to understand about that? Callazo has beat some top guys and has been in the ring with elite guys like Hatton. Please dont try to compare what those other guys have done to what he has done. If you cant see the differnce then you have a problem. Go ahead and try to boost up Cintron all you want man but no one is going to buy it. Its like somone trying to boost up Julio. My point is you dont know about these guys until the get in the ring with someone decent but you already know about Callazo, plain and simple. For your last sentence I will say this. I just got this from a writer on another board. He said, who the hell made Margarito the man to beat at WW? His shit is self appointed. He said that Margarito is not recoginzed by any of the sanctioning bodies to be the top guy except for the weak ass WBO. He said the so called bible of boxing which is the Ring Magazine doesnt have him ranked #1 and doesnt even have him at #2 which is funny since he has been there forever and Floyd has only had 2 fights. He said what makes you put him at the #1 guy? His 1st round destruction over Gomez who Shane KO 7 years ealier at lightweight? The Cintron win? The Santos loss? His fake belt? What? What makes you or anyone continue to say that he is the guy to beat? You guys cant prove that shit and have no facts behind it. He is not the guy to beat. The guy to beat is Baldy. Baldy has the real belt and has beaten the better fighters and hasnt lost recently unlike Margarito. Margarito has no real claim at all to the #1 spot but yet you guys keep trying to put him there. Well I dont agree and neither do alot of others