What about Marquez?

he didnt sign to fight juarez you idiot he was meant to go to 135 to fight jesus chavez until he pulled out Hey stupid, i knew that Barrera was gonna fight Jesus Chavez, but Chavez got injured. He fought Juarez instead. Everyone(or at least most of us)knew that Chavez got injured, so Golden Boy Promotions got Juarez for Barrera, so u can say MAB sign to fight Juarez.

Marquez just doesn't want to fight PAC and thats it :boxing: I agree, but if he did I think he could outbox him for the whole 12 rounds. We'll never see it anyways. JMM wants no part of it.

IMO Marquez is one of tha top ten most skilled fighters in all of boxing. he would beat Pac in a rematch, boxing lesson.

Marquez just doesn't want to fight PAC and thats it :boxing:

i agree with ferocity fredddie roach always mentions barrera as he is a big name but past his best Pacquiao nuthuggers never seem 2 actually comment on the marquez fight they seem2 just keep sayin pacman has improved .but he wont beat marquez roach mentions barrera only because barrera has been calling out PAC everytime PAC has a scheduled fight made. the discussion about jmm-pac fight has been beaten down to death for more than 2yrs. what more comments are you looking for? 3 knockdowns? jmm supposedly schooled pac? one judge scored it wrong therefore pac should've won? lederman had pac winning? what?

** You don't think very well. JMM turned down big money to rematch Manny, preferring to fight and lose in Indonesia for chump change. Don't know what his future holds, but he obviously needs to upgrade his stategy just as you need to upgrade your thinking. You need to upgrade your reading skills.All I said was JMM gave Pac plenty of trouble in their fight,and the rematch should be made.But I don't think JMM wants it.I know perfectly well about JMM pricing himself out.Which is why I stated "I don't think JMM wants it".Now go away,adults are talking.

Marquez lost to Chris John, not by robbery,after all the officials were not Indonesians. Chris John was the better fighter that night. Marquez was penalized for punching below the belt, the ref was doing his job, so u can't blame Chris John, the ref, or the judges, blame Marquez for the point deduction. As far as Pac vs Marquez 2004 fight, one judge scored the 1st round 10-7 instead 10-6. And for those ur saying JMM school Pac, i don't call punching below the belt as outboxing an opponent(which he should have been penalize for that, did it a couple times). We know Pac lost to Morales by UD, but its not exactly one sided beat down. They have rematches because of either controversial decision or it was a battle, ex. Gatti-Ward, Barrera-Morales, Castillo-Corralles. If it is a 1 sided win, then the 1st fight, EM should have won by 5 points or more. Pac might be 1 dimensional fighter, but he has worked and improved on his weaknesses, and his at the top right because he is willing to go toe to toe with anybody. I can't say that about JMM, yeah he wanted more money, but look at his fights after Pac, its not exactly a good resume when he was pound for pound top 10 fighter. Barrera-Juarez fight should have been a draw. Barrerea also stated wanted to fight Pac, then signging to fight Juarez. Erik Morales, i can't say anything bad about him, yeah he talk thrash, but he goes into the ring and gave his all.

Oh, and I had to quote this. That's so incorrect it's not even funny. The judges' scorecards don't reflect how the match was at all. JMM shouldve won that fight by 2 to 3 pts outside of indonesia. when he signed the contract to fight there, his fight plan should be for a KO or a 'DOMINATING PERFORMANCE' he shouldve expected that. John won a few rounds and i think thats enough for the homeboy to 'win' :D

You're blinded by your hatered/love. Just look at it this way. Has Marquez improved a noticable amount since his fight with Pacquiao? Not speculation about will he for the fight, but has he? Then, ask yourself if Pacquiao has improved? Pacquiao's last performances have proven he's better than ever. I'm not saying JMM wouldn't have a chance, but I definitely wouldn't favor him. I didn't see no improvement when he fought Morales for the second time, and Marquez is Marquez, he makes everybody fight his fight cause he's that good, Pacquiao want to go to Marquez body, i like to see him try, Marquez went to the body in their first fight and if Pacquiao can get in close then that only leave him open for more body shots. And its not hate, its called calling it how I see it. I remember Marquez from his day at the Great Western Fourm and the KCAL Fight Nights television his fights, Im very familiar with Marquez and know what his is capable of and Pacquiao found out first hand. Roach keeps screaming for Barrera but he's silent when is comes to getting a rematch with Marquez who now has a new manager making a deal between Pacquiao and Marquez that much easier.

Marquez is only going to fight a better fight then the first fight. Pacquiao used Cleto Reyes gloves :eek: and knocked him down 3 times but just as fast Marquez got up and made the fight a draw, though i thought he won, after the knockdown he dominated Pacquiao. You're blinded by your hatered/love. Just look at it this way. Has Marquez improved a noticable amount since his fight with Pacquiao? Not speculation about will he for the fight, but has he? Then, ask yourself if Pacquiao has improved? Pacquiao's last performances have proven he's better than ever. I'm not saying JMM wouldn't have a chance, but I definitely wouldn't favor him.

Pac isn't the same one dimensional fighter that JMM fought 2 years ago. That being said, JMM might still be able to outbox him enough for the win but Pacquiao with his better arsenal of punches has a better chance of still landing some shots. Marquez is only going to fight a better fight then the first fight. Pacquiao used Cleto Reyes gloves :eek: and knocked him down 3 times but just as fast Marquez got up and made the fight a draw, though i thought he won, after the knockdown he dominated Pacquiao.

marquez did not go for the rematch, instead fought chris john -- he lost big time. Oh, and I had to quote this. That's so incorrect it's not even funny. The judges' scorecards don't reflect how the match was at all.

Pac isn't the same one dimensional fighter that JMM fought 2 years ago. That being said, JMM might still be able to outbox him enough for the win but Pacquiao with his better arsenal of punches has a better chance of still landing some shots.

I know Juan Manuel Marquez suffered a set back not long ago but I still think if he gets a rematch with Pacquiao he'll win. Im not a Pacquiao hater, I like any fighter who brings excitement and fights all the best but I think Marquez' smart and technical superiority will prevail if indeed they fight again. Pacquiao will have to start again after he loses to Morales and a rematch with Marquez would not be smart after he loses to Morales in November.

again i'll repeat it for the 50th time. I dont hat pac. In fact i'll pic pac over barerra in a heartbeat. I already told that to your boy flipside who at least has some credibility unlike yourself. search my post you fool where i pick Manny over Barerra...so i aint hatin. Your dumber than i thought. whatever.... whether you hate pac or not... still morales sucks!!! he is a poor loser. keep on defending him, and you'll end up worse than he is. morales sucks!!!!

your idols are making the insults for themselves. marquez did not go for the rematch, instead fought chris john -- he lost big time. morales insulted pac right after pac destroyed his big nose. barrera keeps on calling pac while signing a fight against other fighters. im only stating the insults they did to themselves. worse.... you're making the more insults coz you've been defending them!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!! your really stupid. I dont even like JMM or Barerra you fool. I aint mexican either. This only shows how ingnorant you are.

and you've been blinded by your hating :D not only that pac can outpunch raheem, he has better footwork than him. it's obvious, you're pure hating is blinding your ability to analyze the sport better. let me guess, the only boxing you've watched lately was the contender? :p again i'll repeat it for the 50th time. I dont hat pac. In fact i'll pic pac over barerra in a heartbeat. I already told that to your boy flipside who at least has some credibility unlike yourself. search my post you fool where i pick Manny over Barerra...so i aint hatin. Your dumber than i thought.

it's xcariot and vanilla (as spokesperson of their boyfriends) against the whole world :D

When you point out facts, they cant accept them, they'll come up with stupid shit cause they know they dont know shit about boxing, all they do is nuthug Pacquiao and go on other "non-pacquiao" threads to try and act like they know what their saying. They crack me up, all they come up with are "Barrera and Morales are bums and Marquez is a pussy" Can you fuckers come up with something else? Annoying little bastards :D lol read my post before yours ;)

I don't consider Raheem is the superior boxer, he ran away from Morales, and he likes to hug Freitas. If Pac and Raheem fights, Raheem has a height advantage. But if Pac connects with power punches, then u see Raheem finally coming out of the closet, hugging Pac like there's no tomorrow. Freddie Roach will find away for Pac to beat Raheem. My opinion on Pac vs Raheem fight, i don't really want to see it. Just look at Freitas vs Raheem. Raheem is overrated, i gived him credit for beating Morales(even though it was Erik's first fight at lightweight). But there's only 2 things that this slick boxer can do, run and hug. You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to loui_ludwig again.