Lets call a spade a spade.....

how could you can that anyone could EASILY beat PBF, when he has never shown any weaknesses? losing to jlc and getting knocked down by judah count as weaknesses in my book.

How does taking a long layoff make someone a pussy? It isn't like he is ducking anybody, he is just taking time to heal injuries. You have no clue what your talking about. Your calling De La Hoya a pussy because he is a former model and pop star. Nobody in the past ten years has been as willing to take on top opposition as De La Hoya has been. In fact, I will make that a challenge to you, TRY to name someone in the past ten years that has been as willing to take on top guys as De La Hoya. Let me guess, you consider Mike Tyson to be courageous? ....TTTTIIIIITTTTOOOOOO......

DLH is a pu$$y.....not fighting until 07 is stupid....he is simply running from that ass whoopin that Pretty Boy has for him...then if he loses in 07 he's going to use that laid off shit to his advantage...sorry DLH fans, but your boy is a pu$$y....somebody tell DLH, we want our money back from those trash ass fights he produces.... How does taking a long layoff make someone a pussy? It isn't like he is ducking anybody, he is just taking time to heal injuries. You have no clue what your talking about. Your calling De La Hoya a pussy because he is a former model and pop star. Nobody in the past ten years has been as willing to take on top opposition as De La Hoya has been. In fact, I will make that a challenge to you, TRY to name someone in the past ten years that has been as willing to take on top guys as De La Hoya. Let me guess, you consider Mike Tyson to be courageous?

Rosewood htown: I appreciate the props on the post, and I am not offended at all. You have to remember the Oscar isn't as young as he used to be and if it takes him a year to heal, to give the fans the best fight possible than so be it. Oscar has always given some of his best perfoemances after long layoffs. I myself was a little disappointed that we will have to wait, but if thats what it takes to give the fans the best fight possible, than so be it. Another thing that you have to remember is that if they fight it will be at 154lbs. Oscar has already said that if they fight it will have to be at 154 and no catch weight, he said that if Floyd wants the fight thats the way it will have to be and that he;s not gonna fight at a catch weight and give Floyd any type of advantages. Floyd will have no choice but to agree he is not gonna call the shots with Oscar. Oscar will dictate the terms and theres nothing Floyd will be able to do. Floyd needs Oscar, Oscar doesn't need Floyd. One more thing he will have to come up to 154, when he is already a small welterweight, 154 is Oscars comforatable weight. I'm not ignorant enough to think that Floyd can't win, but people also need not be ignorant enough to think that he can't lose. Oscar has fought some of the toughest competition at every weight, and Floyd is not just gonna walk through him and make him look stupid. Say what you want, but I think that Oscar is being smart about this, and people are just pissed because it is not what they want right now. Like I said I would rather waut the year and see them both fight a there best. On to Margarito. I'm not saying Floyd couldn't win, but I do think that this is probably one of Floyds toughest challenges at this weight based on the size and strength differential and I think that Floyd and his people know that. My problem with this is that he says he'll fight anyone for the right money, well the money is there for the second time. If Floyd wants to be ranked with the best of all time he needs to be fighting the toughest competiotion consistantly. He has been coasting along for long enough. When Marg is offering 8 million and he is mentioning wanting to fight the winner of Vargas Mosley or Kostya Tsyzu that starts to make me wonder. Honestly I really don't care to see him fight Mosely or Vargas at this point in there career because that because I don't think it means as much, and I am a Vargas fan but I know he isn't what he used to be. I have a hard time calling Floyd p4p#1 over guys like Winky based on there level of competition they have faced. I think Floyd is probably the most skilled fighter in the world right now, but until he fights the Margarito's, Cotto's,Haton's etc. etc. of the boxing world that doesn't make him p4p. I don't think beating an old beat down Gatti, Brusels, Ndous, and the other tomatoe cans he can be considered p4p(I'm not saying that he doen't have potential to be) Everyone always talks about Castillo and Corrales, but how long ago was that. What has he done recently. I don't give a damn who he fights but he needs to man up and take on all the best in the division. I don't even want to hear about him fighting Zab either, because we all know that Zab is talented but mentally he is never in the game and it doesn't mean shit to me when Baldomir beat him. I've always thought Zab was overrated,( talk about someone who has never beat quality opposition) this is the same ting Floyd is saying about Marg. Floys just knew Zab was a safer fight. I'm not a Floyd fan by any means but if steps up and fights these types of fighters I will give him his props. He doesn't even have to win every fight, but at least I could respect him for manning up and fighting all the elite competition. It wouldn't be so bad if he diudn't run his mouth so much, but if he's gonna do that he needs to make these fights happen. Agree with me or not you have to at least respect what I am saying and know that I am not just spewing ignorant bullshit. naw playa you are not spitting out bull crap...you made valid points in your post on this thread..that 154 shit is the only thing Im afraid of...it would be tough for the young playa pretty boy to fight up there...the only chance he has is to out point boxers..that he can do...dlh has a chance to out point him as well as ko him, if he can hit him....Zab was for the people...thats it..to tell the truth i still to this believe zab has the best chance at ever defeating pretty boy...speed, quickness, power is what he packs...a peanut brainer is also what he packs...

So you just said he has nothing to prove, but he wants to stay and continue to fight, yet you call him a pussy for wanting to stay when he has nothing to prove? playa...dont confuse yourself...Im simply saying if you are going to retire then retire, if you are going to fight then dont tease everyone with this 07, pretty boy, etc. crap...everyone in america is flying high off the mayo victory...by 07 that shit will be long gone....

very good post playa......although the marg comments are retard...marg aint shit and you know it..pretty boy has no choice but to fight to top contenders now that dlf is out of the picture for now...i dont think it will be marg...i'm guessing hatton is the man...marg is just a good power having mexican fighter with a huge mouth....it wont be him..i say hatton or even sugar if he beats vargas.....i want to see a great fight playa but its hard for me to believe it takes a year for a shoulder injury to heal...i'm sorry if that offends you playa... Rosewood htown: I appreciate the props on the post, and I am not offended at all. You have to remember the Oscar isn't as young as he used to be and if it takes him a year to heal, to give the fans the best fight possible than so be it. Oscar has always given some of his best perfoemances after long layoffs. I myself was a little disappointed that we will have to wait, but if thats what it takes to give the fans the best fight possible, than so be it. Another thing that you have to remember is that if they fight it will be at 154lbs. Oscar has already said that if they fight it will have to be at 154 and no catch weight, he said that if Floyd wants the fight thats the way it will have to be and that he's not gonna fight at a catch weight and give Floyd any type of advantages. Floyd will have no choice but to agree he is not gonna call the shots with Oscar. Oscar will dictate the terms and theres nothing Floyd will be able to do. Floyd needs Oscar, Oscar doesn't need Floyd. One more thing he will have to come up to 154, when he is already a small welterweight, 154 is Oscars comforatable weight. I'm not ignorant enough to think that Floyd can't win, but people also need not be ignorant enough to think that he can't lose. Oscar has fought some of the toughest competition at every weight, and Floyd is not just gonna walk through him and make him look stupid. Say what you want, but I think that Oscar is being smart about this, and people are just pissed because it is not what they want right now. Like I said I would rather waut the year and see them both fight a there best. On to Margarito. I'm not saying Floyd couldn't win, but I do think that this is probably one of Floyds toughest challenges at this weight based on the size and strength differential and I think that Floyd and his people know that. My problem with this is that he says he'll fight anyone for the right money, well the money is there for the second time. If Floyd wants to be ranked with the best of all time he needs to be fighting the toughest competiotion consistantly. He has been coasting along for long enough. When Marg is offering 8 million and he is mentioning wanting to fight the winner of Vargas Mosley or Kostya Tsyzu that starts to make me wonder. Honestly I really don't care to see him fight Mosely or Vargas at this point in there career because that because I don't think it means as much, and I am a Vargas fan but I know he isn't what he used to be. I have a hard time calling Floyd p4p#1 over guys like Winky based on there level of competition they have faced. I think Floyd is probably the most skilled fighter in the world right now, but until he fights the Margarito's, Cotto's,Haton's etc. etc. of the boxing world that doesn't make him p4p. I don't think beating an old beat down Gatti, Brusels, Ndous, and the other tomatoe cans he can be considered p4p(I'm not saying that he doen't have potential to be) Everyone always talks about Castillo and Corrales, but how long ago was that. What has he done recently. I don't give a damn who he fights but he needs to man up and take on all the best in the division. I don't even want to hear about him fighting Zab either, because we all know that Zab is talented but mentally he is never in the game and it doesn't mean shit to me when Baldomir beat him. I've always thought Zab was overrated,( talk about someone who has never beat quality opposition) this is the same ting Floyd is saying about Marg. Floyd just knew Zab was a safer fight. I'm not a Floyd fan by any means but if steps up and fights these types of fighters I will give him his props. He doesn't even have to win every fight, but at least I could respect him for manning up and fighting all the elite competition. It wouldn't be so bad if he didn't run his mouth so much, but if he's gonna do that he needs to make these fights happen. Agree with me or not you have to at least respect what I am saying and know that I am not just spewing ignorant bullshit.

no he has nothing to prove.....so why the fuck wont he just retire..get the hell on...he is a legend hell he is the golden boy...shine like it then....just retire..you and dhl are weak... So you just said he has nothing to prove, but he wants to stay and continue to fight, yet you call him a pussy for wanting to stay when he has nothing to prove?

Rosewood htown: I appreciate the props on the post, and I am not offended at all. You have to remember the Oscar isn't as young as he used to be and if it takes him a year to heal, to give the fans the best fight possible than so be it. Oscar has always given some of his best perfoemances after long layoffs. I myself was a little disappointed that we will have to wait, but if thats what it takes to give the fans the best fight possible, than so be it. Another thing that you have to remember is that if they fight it will be at 154lbs. Oscar has already said that if they fight it will have to be at 154 and no catch weight, he said that if Floyd wants the fight thats the way it will have to be and that he;s not gonna fight at a catch weight and give Floyd any type of advantages. Floyd will have no choice but to agree he is not gonna call the shots with Oscar. Oscar will dictate the terms and theres nothing Floyd will be able to do. Floyd needs Oscar, Oscar doesn't need Floyd. One more thing he will have to come up to 154, when he is already a small welterweight, 154 is Oscars comforatable weight. I'm not ignorant enough to think that Floyd can't win, but people also need not be ignorant enough to think that he can't lose. Oscar has fought some of the toughest competition at every weight, and Floyd is not just gonna walk through him and make him look stupid. Say what you want, but I think that Oscar is being smart about this, and people are just pissed because it is not what they want right now. Like I said I would rather waut the year and see them both fight a there best. On to Margarito. I'm not saying Floyd couldn't win, but I do think that this is probably one of Floyds toughest challenges at this weight based on the size and strength differential and I think that Floyd and his people know that. My problem with this is that he says he'll fight anyone for the right money, well the money is there for the second time. If Floyd wants to be ranked with the best of all time he needs to be fighting the toughest competiotion consistantly. He has been coasting along for long enough. When Marg is offering 8 million and he is mentioning wanting to fight the winner of Vargas Mosley or Kostya Tsyzu that starts to make me wonder. Honestly I really don't care to see him fight Mosely or Vargas at this point in there career because that because I don't think it means as much, and I am a Vargas fan but I know he isn't what he used to be. I have a hard time calling Floyd p4p#1 over guys like Winky based on there level of competition they have faced. I think Floyd is probably the most skilled fighter in the world right now, but until he fights the Margarito's, Cotto's,Haton's etc. etc. of the boxing world that doesn't make him p4p. I don't think beating an old beat down Gatti, Brusels, Ndous, and the other tomatoe cans he can be considered p4p(I'm not saying that he doen't have potential to be) Everyone always talks about Castillo and Corrales, but how long ago was that. What has he done recently. I don't give a damn who he fights but he needs to man up and take on all the best in the division. I don't even want to hear about him fighting Zab either, because we all know that Zab is talented but mentally he is never in the game and it doesn't mean shit to me when Baldomir beat him. I've always thought Zab was overrated,( talk about someone who has never beat quality opposition) this is the same ting Floyd is saying about Marg. Floys just knew Zab was a safer fight. I'm not a Floyd fan by any means but if steps up and fights these types of fighters I will give him his props. He doesn't even have to win every fight, but at least I could respect him for manning up and fighting all the elite competition. It wouldn't be so bad if he diudn't run his mouth so much, but if he's gonna do that he needs to make these fights happen. Agree with me or not you have to at least respect what I am saying and know that I am not just spewing ignorant bullshit.

dude you are trppin.... i'll type like you then...ok football is the great sporting event today. just check the rating chump.. padded and all that crap you said?????I bet the farm your little ass couldnt handle the sport that real men play....lol yes would love to see a great fight.. yes people do heal diferently.. I don't care for football and don't see it as entertaining or interesting. I don't think it's "manly" because as I said, there is way too much padding and stopping. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't rugby kinda the same thing except that it's actually "manly" because there isn't any padding and the guys aren't all fat sacks of shit? If I were to go by what "ratings" said was good, then I'd be wanting to fuck Paris Hilton, watching the lastest fast and the furious movie, and listening to a chemical romance and sean paul. In other words, don't always count on that as a good example. Lots of people saying dog shit tastes good doesn't mean it really does. For your information, I have played football the past.

Dr Cynical couldn't have said it any better and I am not going to even waste my time with you. If you want to talk about calling a spade a spade a spade, lets talk about Mayweather ducking Margarito. He constantly says he'll fight anyone for the right money, and that Margarito would be an easy fight. If it is such an easy fight, than lets see him take it and prove everyone wrong. I could understand the first time wanting to wait on Oscar, but that fight isn't happening for now. What is his excuse now? I don't want to hear this shit about he hasn't fought anyone and he isn't an A level fighter. More excuses!! He said it was about money, well outside of Oscar, 8 million is the most money he is going to make. The Oscar fight will happen because it will be too much money for the two to ignore. Oscar is not ducking Mayweather. He has taken on the best competition in every weight division throughout his career, and even moved up in weight to fight Hopkins knowing it was too much weight for him, and you are gonnaa say that he is ducking Floyd PLEASE!!!! Why don't you get it through your head and understand what everyone is trying to tell you, that we would rather see both fighters at there best and healthy than to see them in half ass shape. Before you start saying that Oscar is ducking Floyd you need to open your eyes and check your boy Floyd. His people say he is not ducking Margarito. Well no shit!!!! Do you expect them to come out and say that he doesn't want to fight him. I'm not saying that he couldn't win the fight, I'm just saying he needs to stop making excuses and man up. very good post playa......although the marg comments are retard...marg aint shit and you know it..pretty boy has no choice but to fight to top contenders now that dlf is out of the picture for now...i dont think it will be marg...i'm guessing hatton is the man...marg is just a good power having mexican fighter with a huge mouth....it wont be him..i say hatton or even sugar if he beats vargas.....i want to see a great fight playa but its hard for me to believe it takes a year for a shoulder injury to heal...i'm sorry if that offends you playa...

dude you are trppin.... i'll type like you then...ok football is the great sporting event today. just check the rating chump.. padded and all that crap you said?????I bet the farm your little ass couldnt handle the sport that real men play....lol yes would love to see a great fight.. yes people do heal diferently.. Dr Cynical couldn't have said it any better and I am not going to even waste my time with you. If you want to talk about calling a spade a spade a spade, lets talk about Mayweather ducking Margarito. He constantly says he'll fight anyone for the right money, and that Margarito would be an easy fight. If it is such an easy fight, than lets see him take it and prove everyone wrong. I could understand the first time wanting to wait on Oscar, but that fight isn't happening for now. What is his excuse now? I don't want to hear this shit about he hasn't fought anyone and he isn't an A level fighter. More excuses!! He said it was about money, well outside of Oscar, 8 million is the most money he is going to make. The Oscar fight will happen because it will be too much money for the two to ignore. Oscar is not ducking Mayweather. He has taken on the best competition in every weight division throughout his career, and even moved up in weight to fight Hopkins knowing it was too much weight for him, and you are gonnaa say that he is ducking Floyd PLEASE!!!! Why don't you get it through your head and understand what everyone is trying to tell you, that we would rather see both fighters at there best and healthy than to see them in half ass shape. Before you start saying that Oscar is ducking Floyd you need to open your eyes and check your boy Floyd. His people say he is not ducking Margarito. Well no shit!!!! Do you expect them to come out and say that he doesn't want to fight him. I'm not saying that he couldn't win the fight, I'm just saying he needs to stop making excuses and man up.

Can you try to calm down and type coherently? I can picture this angry little man typing away furiously and refreshing constantly after every post. Football? I'm sorry, but I think that is a weak sport, especially compared to boxing. Those guys are so bloated and have so much padding it's amazing that anyone can get excited watching that. Anytime there is action they stop. Football is boring and meaningless to me and because of my views on that I don't see how you can make any comments about those types of injuries. Even if I were to take that as a valid sport, you do understand that people react to injuries and heal differently, right? Also, wouldn't you want to see a good fight with both fighters trained well and ready instead of a rushed fight with someone who has spent most his time focusing on healing instead of training for the fight? dude you are trppin.... i'll type like you then...ok football is the great sporting event today. just check the rating chump.. padded and all that crap you said?????I bet the farm your little ass couldnt handle the sport that real men play....lol yes would love to see a great fight.. yes people do heal diferently..

Actually playa I have tore my shoulder up...I was a NCAA DIA footbal player..my shit didnt take a year to fully heal....rotator cuff..what....that aint shit man...be there done that.....no I'm not with pretty boy's camp.....and no you are the moron....people on this site just pissed off when a guy validates his point to the fullest...dont try an clown me because you just as lame as these other cats........ Can you try to calm down and type coherently? I can picture this angry little man typing away furiously and refreshing constantly after every post. Football? I'm sorry, but I think that is a weak sport, especially compared to boxing. Those guys are so bloated and have so much padding it's amazing that anyone can get excited watching that. Anytime there is action they stop. Football is boring and meaningless to me and because of my views on that I don't see how you can make any comments about those types of injuries. Even if I were to take that as a valid sport, you do understand that people react to injuries and heal differently, right? Also, wouldn't you want to see a good fight with both fighters trained well and ready instead of a rushed fight with someone who has spent most his time focusing on healing instead of training for the fight?

Are you part of Floyd's camp? If you are that would definitely explain all the bullshit you're spewing. If that's not the case, then may I ask if you've ever suffered any head injuries? Because you're coming off as a loud mouth moron. Also, have you ever had a shoulder injury or any injury whatsoever? Be it from fighting or other things? Are you experienced on how long it takes for a person to heal? I could go on but I see no point for now. I think you're upset about something else and/or just want to rile people up. Actually playa I have tore my shoulder up...I was a NCAA DIA footbal player..my shit didnt take a year to fully heal....rotator cuff..what....that aint shit man...be there done that.....no I'm not with pretty boy's camp.....and no you are the moron....people on this site just pissed off when a guy validates his point to the fullest...dont try an clown me because you just as lame as these other cats........

damn playa it takes a YEAR to let a shoulder injury heal itself????? i think not.. Are you part of Floyd's camp? If you are that would definitely explain all the bullshit you're spewing. If that's not the case, then may I ask if you've ever suffered any head injuries? Because you're coming off as a loud mouth moron. Also, have you ever had a shoulder injury or any injury whatsoever? Be it from fighting or other things? Are you experienced on how long it takes for a person to heal? I could go on but I see no point for now. I think you're upset about something else and/or just want to rile people up.

Bullfukkinshit. Mayorga was an undisputed champ at one time. Lacy was not even close to that. Lacy ahd no wins over top 10 p4p comp. Mayorga had. Calz whoopin is in no way better than DLH's aside from the fact that people didn't think Cal would win. You did not see the fight if you have to ask this. lacy was the truth while mayo was a undisputed bullshit chump...if pretty boy was exposed in the castillo fight...why the hell has anyone out there be able to capitalize on "THE WEAKNESSES"....

this is why boxing needs a better scheduleing system. he should not be allowed to fight for a title after being inactive for so long, his ranking should drop and active fighters should move ahead of him in line.....yeah i know it will never happen because it's all about the money.

calz did the whoopin DLH beat probably the weakest champion on the planet in mayo.... Bullfukkinshit. Mayorga was an undisputed champ at one time. Lacy was not even close to that. Lacy ahd no wins over top 10 p4p comp. Mayorga had. Calz whoopin is in no way better than DLH's aside from the fact that people didn't think Cal would win. lol...and the weakness is??? You did not see the fight if you have to ask this.

It is apparent that fans from England hate PBF. Anyway, Oscar has other options other than box. He can fight next year and still draw a crowd and make it a ppv event. But, I disagree with him even putting PBF in his vocabulary. Why would he tease MW and then tells him to wait another year. That was a pu$$y move there. although he is P4P...there are few out there that really like what he does in the ring...no doubt golden boy is a money making machine but i say if you're going to fight then fight, if you're going retire then retire...bottom line..

It is apparent that fans from England hate PBF. Anyway, Oscar has other options other than box. He can fight next year and still draw a crowd and make it a ppv event. But, I disagree with him even putting PBF in his vocabulary. Why would he tease MW and then tells him to wait another year. That was a pu$$y move there.