if vargas wins what should he do next

Arthur Abraham will take care of Sturm, Vanes isnt moving up to 160 anytime soon. and its kinda pointless and lame that you are trying to look good by showing off a 25-1 fighter with an up and coming 9-0 one year pro. You wanna make comparisons to Sturm, you do so with Abraham, Taylor, Wright, who would all kill Sturn in an instant. sturm would embarrass arthur who only has a power advantage over sturm which wont effect a thing, i dont think winky can beat a bigger,stronger guy who can outbox him and has a similar style, and after seeing wink/taylor no doubt do i think sturm can beat taylor

u gotta be kidding if u think vanes could even hold a light to sturm Arthur Abraham will take care of Sturm, Vanes isnt moving up to 160 anytime soon. and its kinda pointless and lame that you are trying to look good by showing off a 25-1 fighter with an up and coming 9-0 one year pro. You wanna make comparisons to Sturm, you do so with Abraham, Taylor, Wright, who would all kill Sturn in an instant.

vargas vs margarito would be a nice fight i wouldnt mind seeing

u gotta be kidding if u think vanes could even hold a light to sturm

and whats nice is that we can be men and agree or disagree like men not havin to talk smack. Just know I understand clearly what ur sayin too, and I do have respect for you and your conversing skills. and its nothin personal from Finkel, its like a nice paycheck farewell to Vargas. How exactly did Vargas make a name for himself?? For one to rise another must fall, this is especially true in the boxing world. It's all good. I also respect your conversation skills and have respect for your fighter Vanes. Talking smack wont get you anywhere here anyways. It only pisses the other guy off and from what you've posted I know you have knowledge in this game. Keep me posted on any "inside" info you might have. Thanks bro...and till the next disagreement !

From a business side it makes perfect sense...but I dont think Finkel would do that to Fernando. And if I said he would then I am already admitting that Vanes would beat him and dont think that would happen. I'm sure Vanes will be a top notch fighter and live up to the potential but a fight with Vargas I really cant see happening. You may know more than me though seeing as you say you know Vanes personally which leads me to believe you know Finkel as well. I dunno though ? this is boxing and it's a business like you say. and whats nice is that we can be men and agree or disagree like men not havin to talk smack. Just know I understand clearly what ur sayin too, and I do have respect for you and your conversing skills. and its nothin personal from Finkel, its like a nice paycheck farewell to Vargas. How exactly did Vargas make a name for himself?? For one to rise another must fall, this is especially true in the boxing world.

ahhh, so you know about Finkel. Ok doesnt it all make sense to you? You have a great boxer in Vargas who makes good money for you, now, he is nearing the end of his career lets say. Why put him in against someone elses fighter who beats him, takes his spotlight and the money that comes with it, and have Vanes still be a prospect that hasnt fought a big name. Let your new boy beat your old boy and keep your money rolling. Its pretty simple isnt it? Does it make sense bro??? its all a business man, $$$ From a business side it makes perfect sense...but I dont think Finkel would do that to Fernando. And if I said he would then I am already admitting that Vanes would beat him and dont think that would happen. I'm sure Vanes will be a top notch fighter and live up to the potential but a fight with Vargas I really cant see happening. You may know more than me though seeing as you say you know Vanes personally which leads me to believe you know Finkel as well. I dunno though ? this is boxing and it's a business like you say.

you boy has to stop leading face first when he attacks, 9 fights in and still doing this is not a good sign, you care for your boy talk to his trainer, cause that invites a right hands and he ko's himself. he ain't ready for vargas. I know he aint ready, give him another year or two, and he will be more than ready. and I doubt a trainer like Freddie Roach wont pick up on those details himself.

ahhh, so you know about Finkel. Ok doesnt it all make sense to you? You have a great boxer in Vargas who makes good money for you, now, he is nearing the end of his career lets say. Why put him in against someone elses fighter who beats him, takes his spotlight and the money that comes with it, and have Vanes still be a prospect that hasnt fought a big name. Let your new boy beat your old boy and keep your money rolling. Its pretty simple isnt it? Does it make sense bro??? its all a business man, $$$ you boy has to stop leading face first when he attacks, 9 fights in and still doing this is not a good sign, you care for your boy talk to his trainer, cause that invites a right hands and he ko's himself. he ain't ready for vargas.

Finkel is also Vargas's manager. I highly doubt he will put him in with Vanes in the future as I know Vanes is managed by Finkel as well. If Vargas gets by Mosely next month he'll probably fight another soft opponent then maybe a title shot but who knows ? I dont see Vargas fighting for very much longer...maybe a year or two at the most. I'm not saying this fight wont happen but chances are slim. I know your boy is up and coming but would Finkel risk a loss at the expense of a big name ? ahhh, so you know about Finkel. Ok doesnt it all make sense to you? You have a great boxer in Vargas who makes good money for you, now, he is nearing the end of his career lets say. Why put him in against someone elses fighter who beats him, takes his spotlight and the money that comes with it, and have Vanes still be a prospect that hasnt fought a big name. Let your new boy beat your old boy and keep your money rolling. Its pretty simple isnt it? Does it make sense bro??? its all a business man, $$$

Shelly Finkel is a big name in boxing and he has alottt of all this planned out. There are obviously many factors that go into it, the biggest being that Vanes continues strong the way he has been doing, and that Vargas is still around and some other external factors, but there is always talk man, I didnt say there is a contract being written up, just saying its a possibility. The age and timing of it all makes sense you know, if there is anyone in the division for Vanes to take their spotlight, its Vargas, thats it. Finkel is also Vargas's manager. I highly doubt he will put him in with Vanes in the future as I know Vanes is managed by Finkel as well. If Vargas gets by Mosely next month he'll probably fight another soft opponent then maybe a title shot but who knows ? I dont see Vargas fighting for very much longer...maybe a year or two at the most. I'm not saying this fight wont happen but chances are slim. I know your boy is up and coming but would Finkel risk a loss at the expense of a big name ?

dude I know he is your boy but you have to be realistic. Vanes has fought nobody yet. He has to get by the Bunemas, Mckarts, Flores, Castillejo's , Papillon's , Jantuah's etc. etc... You said there have been serious talks about a fight with Vargas in the distant future ? Shelly Finkel is a big name in boxing and he has alottt of all this planned out. There are obviously many factors that go into it, the biggest being that Vanes continues strong the way he has been doing, and that Vargas is still around and some other external factors, but there is always talk man, I didnt say there is a contract being written up, just saying its a possibility. The age and timing of it all makes sense you know, if there is anyone in the division for Vanes to take their spotlight, its Vargas, thats it.

that lanky guy will beat the shit out of Vargas and every other sorry ass fighter on ur prospects list. Just wait bitch, plus I wasnt even talkin to you so shut the fuck up. dude I know he is your boy but you have to be realistic. Vanes has fought nobody yet. He has to get by the Bunemas, Mckarts, Flores, Castillejo's , Papillon's , Jantuah's etc. etc... You said there have been serious talks about a fight with Vargas in the distant future ?

lol, I've had some disagreements with you in the past but I agree 100% with you here. There is no way a 9-0 prospect is gonna beat an even faded Vargas. Not in this lifetime. im gonna ignore xcaret cuz we all know he is just a complete idiot. instead ill try to explain to you what i was saying cuz you didnt understand me, and you seem smart enough to understand unline dumbfuck xcaret. I didnt say Vanes will or could beat Vargas now, that would be plain stupid. What I said is if Vargas is still here about 2 yrs down the line, Vanes will fight him and put him out. Vargas will be at the end of his career, and Vanes will be in his prime. Alot goes on in boxing that is set up years ahead of time, and what Im saying is that this has been talked about and is a very realistic possibility. READ a little of what I write man before you put words in my mouth.

You really need to stop hugging his nuts so godamn much its annoying already. And i've seen him in the Wild Card Gym, and no way that lanky mofoker is gonna beat Vargas now or in the future. lol, I've had some disagreements with you in the past but I agree 100% with you here. There is no way a 9-0 prospect is gonna beat an even faded Vargas. Not in this lifetime.

You really need to stop hugging his nuts so godamn much its annoying already. And i've seen him in the Wild Card Gym, and no way that lanky mofoker is gonna beat Vargas now or in the future. that lanky guy will beat the shit out of Vargas and every other sorry ass fighter on ur prospects list. Just wait bitch, plus I wasnt even talkin to you so shut the fuck up.

in my view i think vargas has a huge chance on beating mosley and after that i think he should either go after mayweather or maybe even face wright again his bst bet if he wins, which he wont, is to take his fat slow ass home for good. the dude came back looking like shit and he fought like shit...vargas suck....pretty boy would murda his slow ass...winky would throw a single punch and still beat him...vargas sucks..

felix sturm would kick this Vanes dude ass you really need to try and talk out of your mouth more often instead of your ass.

Vargas will lose again in similar fashion and hopefully retire

He should fight Mayorga and collect a pay check and retire. With most of skills(power and stamina) gone the only reason i see him killing himself to make 154 is for the money. wright will ko him easily and im not even sure he can Margarito as of right now.I cant see him beating Mosley but I will be rooting for him. It was such a shame how they managed his career.had it been done right he would be at the top of his game right now.