The Reason Winky Coasted the 12th and Why Some Gave Him the Fight

I can agree with you on those bold areas...good points. I was just asking a question about Taylor being the front-runner part, not accusing you of saying that. We are cool :D ditto Skinwalker.

Hopkins and winky could have fought each other if they wanted.But didnt.I have to give the credit to the guy that did make those fights happen against them. I didnt say that.I dont think hes a clear front runner.I do think hes the future,well maybe that kinda obvious with everybody else being older. Basically I cant knock Taylor for his performances against either of those 2.Because he stepped up to the plate and gave it his all.Its not the performances anybody would have wished for but,really dont Winky and Hopkins deserve as much of that criticism? I can agree with you on those bold areas...good points. I was just asking a question about Taylor being the front-runner part, not accusing you of saying that. We are cool :D

I was saying I was happeir, i guess, it was a Draw. And can you honestly say that Taylor, after his past three outings, is the front-runner for his weight-class based soley on his competition and not his efforts? I can see how Winky is aggrevated. He is not as strong as his oppenent and it showed at times, but he was landing the cleaner shots and more shots period and cutting off the ring showing better generalship during the fight. Taylor is still learning and he is trying, but when is this going to stop being an excuse? Hopkins and winky could have fought each other if they wanted.But didnt.I have to give the credit to the guy that did make those fights happen against them. And can you honestly say that Taylor, after his past three outings, is the front-runner for his weight-class based soley on his competition and not his efforts? I didnt say that.I dont think hes a clear front runner.I do think hes the future,well maybe that kinda obvious with everybody else being older. Basically I cant knock Taylor for his performances against either of those 2.Because he stepped up to the plate and gave it his all.Its not the performances anybody would have wished for but,really dont Winky and Hopkins deserve as much of that criticism?

Who always seems to get the nod? Taylor? How do you figure? because of his fights with Hop? and, huh? on that higlighted part,it was a draw.Or are you just saying you were happy with the decision? and as to Taylor living up to the Hype.The way I see it,Hopkins took on taylor because he was still "green" ,so what hype? It was a calculated risk for Hops,he meant to take it to Taylor in the latter rounds.I think the majority opinion out there is that he(taylor) is a pretty good fighter who needs to prove himself,but fuck,look at the huge jump in competition he took,and to have to fight winky afterwards,I say cut the kid some slack,He is Trying. I was saying I was happeir, i guess, it was a Draw. And can you honestly say that Taylor, after his past three outings, is the front-runner for his weight-class based soley on his competition and not his efforts? I can see how Winky is aggrevated. He is not as strong as his oppenent and it showed at times, but he was landing the cleaner shots and more shots period and cutting off the ring showing better generalship during the fight. Taylor is still learning and he is trying, but when is this going to stop being an excuse?

but he always seems to get the nod no matter what, right? I can't stand Lou DiBella either, what a chode. Back to the topic on-hand...I would rather thhis be a Draw than a UD or SD for Taylor, but that being said, when is Taylor finally going to live up to the hype? I think he is a good fighter, but he will never be a 'great' until he actually proves he can convincingly win a fight against the bigger names in the sport. Who always seems to get the nod? Taylor? How do you figure? because of his fights with Hop? and, huh? on that higlighted part,it was a draw.Or are you just saying you were happy with the decision? and as to Taylor living up to the Hype.The way I see it,Hopkins took on taylor because he was still "green" ,so what hype? It was a calculated risk for Hops,he meant to take it to Taylor in the latter rounds.I think the majority opinion out there is that he(taylor) is a pretty good fighter who needs to prove himself,but fuck,look at the huge jump in competition he took,and to have to fight winky afterwards,I say cut the kid some slack,He is Trying.

he coasted cuz jermain was hurting him winky never had the fight in the bag jermain was the one fighten like a challenger those hbo guys were given winky way WAY 2 many rds

I think thats bulllshiiiiiiiit Did Hopkins win clearly against Taylor? No Did Winky win Clearly against Taylor? No Taylor fought arguably the 1 & 2 top p4p fighters in Hopkins and Winky back to back,it would be quite a feat to be able to dominate "the big ones" but he always seems to get the nod no matter what, right? I can't stand Lou DiBella either, what a chode. Back to the topic on-hand...I would rather thhis be a Draw than a UD or SD for Taylor, but that being said, when is Taylor finally going to live up to the hype? I think he is a good fighter, but he will never be a 'great' until he actually proves he can convincingly win a fight against the bigger names in the sport.

I don't understand how anyone can see Taylor clearly won that fight. How does a guy who lands more total punches and a higher 'hit' percentage in Winky not walk away with the win in a decision? I think if this fight says anything, it's that Taylor can't 'clearly' win the big ones. The last three of his fights now have been controversial. If you think that is the makings of champion, you are clearly delusional. I think thats bulllshiiiiiiiit Did Hopkins win clearly against Taylor? No Did Winky win Clearly against Taylor? No Taylor fought arguably the 1 & 2 top p4p fighters in Hopkins and Winky back to back,it would be quite a feat to be able to dominate "the big ones"

I watched the Taylor-Wright fight tonight (3 unintentional rhymes in a row...) and was really disappointed in the decision. I come on here and see a lot of guys having a completely opposite view of the fight. Very puzzling to me. I have the fight recorded in hdtv and still can't see what others are seeing. I finally figured it all out. First, Winky's 12th round coast. While watching the 12th round I, along with others, was confused by Winky's coasting. It only briefly crossed my mind that he was doing this because he though he won the fight already. Seemed so improbably that the though quickly left my mind. Now looking back, hearing him answer Merchant after the fight (after merchant asked repeatedly why he gave away the 12th round) that he thought he had it won, I know why he did it. He knew he was losing the fight at the time. Furthermore, he knew he would lose the fight even if he won the 12th and he knew there was no possibility he could knock out Taylor. So he played the unfair card and coasted to pretend to his fans that he thought he was so far ahead on the scorecards at that point that it didn't matter. He could then later claim that the scores were unfair. Merchant even asked him in the post fight interview why he already threw out his arms in disgust before the 3rd scorecard was read. He stumbled and responded that he knew it would be a draw. But he really didn't know that, how could he? It could've been a split decision for him. As ridiculous, to me, as any kind of decision win for him sounds, 1 judge had just given him the fight. Now I'm not saying that Winky consciously came up with this scheme. This is the psychology of fighters. He instinctively did this seeing no way to win the fight. At least he could hope to keep his fans. The funny thing is, with the scoring as nonsensical as it was, Winky would've won a majority decision had he simply participated in the 12th round. So why are there people giving Winky the fight on this board? Even on my own board, 1 person called this a robbery against Winky. A combination of bias towards Winky to begin with and the big swollen left eye Taylor developed early in the fight and had completely shut by the end is the reason. I hadn't realized so many boxing fans were picking Winky to win. To be honest, I've only seen Winky fight once a long time ago, can't even remember his opponent's name. So I wasn't a member of his bandwagon. A lot of boxing experts also picked Winky to win. The big puffy eye must've made people feel that Taylor was getting beat up and Winky's punches were causing damage. To be honest, I didn't see the headbutt that caused this. But it was clearly a headbutt. Winky's jabs were not causing that and Taylor was, unintentionally, getting hit many times in that area with headbutts. Although many rounds were close, this was a clearcut victory for Taylor as 7 rounds were not close. I don't understand how anyone can see Taylor clearly won that fight. How does a guy who lands more total punches and a higher 'hit' percentage in Winky not walk away with the win in a decision? I think if this fight says anything, it's that Taylor can't 'clearly' win the big ones. The last three of his fights now have been controversial. If you think that is the makings of champion, you are clearly delusional.

I have winky winning the fight by two points.

I watched the Taylor-Wright fight tonight (3 unintentional rhymes in a row...) and was really disappointed in the decision. I come on here and see a lot of guys having a completely opposite view of the fight. Very puzzling to me. I have the fight recorded in hdtv and still can't see what others are seeing. I finally figured it all out. First, Winky's 12th round coast. While watching the 12th round I, along with others, was confused by Winky's coasting. It only briefly crossed my mind that he was doing this because he though he won the fight already. Seemed so improbably that the though quickly left my mind. Now looking back, hearing him answer Merchant after the fight (after merchant asked repeatedly why he gave away the 12th round) that he thought he had it won, I know why he did it. He knew he was losing the fight at the time. Furthermore, he knew he would lose the fight even if he won the 12th and he knew there was no possibility he could knock out Taylor. So he played the unfair card and coasted to pretend to his fans that he thought he was so far ahead on the scorecards at that point that it didn't matter. He could then later claim that the scores were unfair. Merchant even asked him in the post fight interview why he already threw out his arms in disgust before the 3rd scorecard was read. He stumbled and responded that he knew it would be a draw. But he really didn't know that, how could he? It could've been a split decision for him. As ridiculous, to me, as any kind of decision win for him sounds, 1 judge had just given him the fight. Now I'm not saying that Winky consciously came up with this scheme. This is the psychology of fighters. He instinctively did this seeing no way to win the fight. At least he could hope to keep his fans. The funny thing is, with the scoring as nonsensical as it was, Winky would've won a majority decision had he simply participated in the 12th round. So why are there people giving Winky the fight on this board? Even on my own board, 1 person called this a robbery against Winky. A combination of bias towards Winky to begin with and the big swollen left eye Taylor developed early in the fight and had completely shut by the end is the reason. I hadn't realized so many boxing fans were picking Winky to win. To be honest, I've only seen Winky fight once a long time ago, can't even remember his opponent's name. So I wasn't a member of his bandwagon. A lot of boxing experts also picked Winky to win. The big puffy eye must've made people feel that Taylor was getting beat up and Winky's punches were causing damage. To be honest, I didn't see the headbutt that caused this. But it was clearly a headbutt. Winky's jabs were not causing that and Taylor was, unintentionally, getting hit many times in that area with headbutts. Although many rounds were close, this was a clearcut victory for Taylor as 7 rounds were not close. Glad to see you had Taylor dominating.

want to sum up that book of yours?