Calzaghge got to fight Hopkins for the fans!!!

Joe too this point has been a waiste but kep in mind there is still soem time. He is 34...what would we have said about Bernard Hopkins 7 years ago when he was 34.... Calzaghe has not taken big punishment in the ring and from the looks of his last fight he appears to be in his prime-or at least a lot closer to it then most even his diehards had thought. The problem now for Joe is who does he go after? Dooes he look at Jermain Taylor if Taylor can beat Wright? Outside of that fight there is no huge fight out there that would bring him the glory he is looking for.

Still a great fighter, and like I said before still one of the greatest Super Middles ever! Joe is the first supermiddleweight to unify since god knows when, something many HOF fighters attempted to do, but failed. Or had the opportunity to do and never went through with it. He's undefeated and already one of the greatest supermiddles of all time, IMHO.

Hopkin won't take this fight, because his legacy can only be damaged. Hopkins can not beat Joe, I just can't see how and certainly not at 41 and im unsure if he ever could have. This is not even prime Calzaghe either, prime Calzaghe was knocking out Tocker Pudding,Mario Veit and Mger Mgertchian, which was a waste. Most of the criticism levelled at Joe is fair, outide the ring the dude is just not very ambitious. Not sure if it is ambition or poor management added against bad luck injury wise, I'll agree his best years are behind him and he could have done so much better I think! Still a great fighter, and like I said before still one of the greatest Super Middles ever!

Hopkin won't take this fight, because his legacy can only be damaged. Hopkins can not beat Joe, I just can't see how and certainly not at 41 and im unsure if he ever could have. This is not even prime Calzaghe either, prime Calzaghe was knocking out Tocker Pudding,Mario Veit and Mger Mgertchian, which was a waste. Most of the criticism levelled at Joe is fair, outide the ring the dude is just not very ambitious.

Ill Like To See This One

The way the fight would go would be so far from what you saw last night that it wouldn't even look like the same sport. Calzaghe is everything that Tarver is not when it comes to agressive constant power-punching activity. If you let Hopkins set the pace, then you're doomed. Calzaghe would make him work too hard and with punches constantly coming at him from every angle Hopkins would simply be too defensive, too often, to win. From what I remember, Hopkins had a tenative agreement to fight Calzaghe worked out, and bailed on it at the last minute when he demanded some changes (maybe after seriously watching some tape of Joe for the first time?). It'd be a good fight, and Joe called him out on several occasions, but Hopkins had pressing business with jr welters where he'd make more money (and did). Ditto for the Jones rematch that he wouldn't take. Another Hopkins legacy is smart business moves as he aged. He picked some good fights for himself with some big names and tip-toed around the more difficult ones when he needed to. Yeah I agree Calzaghe will be just a little too much for him at this stage :boxing: :boxing:

calzaghe agreed so go up in weight as long as glen came down too....... to make a catch weight.......glen johnson pulled out not joe..........according to what i read glan wanted more money to lose the weight(i dont know if thats true) id rather see joe fight hopkins now anyway.......but i think hopkins will retire........hell he deserves it. and back to joes situation i think he needs to move up anyway because anone of the other super middles want anything to do with him now..........never did in fact

You seem to be quite upset about if for something you don't think is very significant. Look at your word count. :rolleyes: Upset - no, frustrated - perhaps, amused - definitely!

Ok lol. If it means that much to you, I will go away and write Bernard Hopkins is 41 not almost 40 a thousand times! Perhaps you should now go through everyone posts and critique them, point out spelling and grammer mistakes as well! I realised my error immediately but in that time you had pointed it out, OK it is a valid point but to pick it up without addressing the theme of my post was a little childish don't you think? If your aim was to belittle me, deflect my point and make it worthless then...if it wasn't why post it in that manner? You seem to be quite upset about if for something you don't think is very significant. Look at your word count. :rolleyes:

Once again, that was a glaring and significant error. There's a world of difference in somone accomplishing something like that in their late 30's, but 41 and a half? It was significant enough it needed to be pointed out. Ok lol. If it means that much to you, I will go away and write Bernard Hopkins is 41 not almost 40 a thousand times! Perhaps you should now go through everyone posts and critique them, point out spelling and grammer mistakes as well! I realised my error immediately but in that time you had pointed it out, OK it is a valid point but to pick it up without addressing the theme of my post was a little childish don't you think? If your aim was to belittle me, deflect my point and make it worthless then...if it wasn't why post it in that manner?

By answer a point you concentrate on the POINT not pick up an error and post that Once again, that was a glaring and significant error. There's a world of difference in somone accomplishing something like that in their late 30's, but 41 and a half? It was significant enough it needed to be pointed out.

How does one answer a point? Bernard's 41 and a half this month, which makes what he's done all the more remarkable. I agree with you that he should hang them up now like he said he was going to. He's got nothing left to prove. There's nothing in it for him to fight Calzaghe. Calzaghe was last seen calling out the #2 Light Heavyweight demanding that he come down to super middle. Bernard jumping from 160 to 175 and schooling the #1 Lt Heavyweight speaks for itself. By answer a point you concentrate on the POINT not pick up an error and post that, I would have expected that from some on here but you? Agreed, what Hopkins has done is amazing and to move up and beat Tarver cements that and I said as much, he has been a great champion and fighter over the years, but for me so has Calzaghe! I agree also that Calzaghe has not achieved what Hopkins has achieved but don't disrespect Calzaghe based on that! The post is about Hopkins fighting Calzaghe, if he did then I believe he would lose, lots of reasons why, the main one being that styles make fights and Calzaghe perhaps has the type of style to beat an aged Bernard Hopkins. Hopkins does not need the fight so he shouldn't take the chance or he may turn into a Holyfield type figure who cannot accept that his day has gone! But full respect to him for Saturday night, its Tarver that should hang his head in shame!

Unless we are in the school yard that is? For 9 fighters out of ten there's a HUGE difference between late 30's and 41 and a half. It's a significant intangable that you had wrong.

How does one answer a point? Bernard's 41 and a half this month, which makes what he's done all the more remarkable. I agree with you that he should hang them up now like he said he was going to. He's got nothing left to prove. There's nothing in it for him to fight Calzaghe. Calzaghe was last seen calling out the #2 Light Heavyweight demanding that he come down to super middle. Bernard jumping from 160 to 175 and schooling the #1 Lt Heavyweight speaks for itself.

OK 41, so what, my point stands, answer the point Bozo not a slight miscalculation! Unless we are in the school yard that is?

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: OK 41, so what, my point stands, answer the point Bozo not a slight miscalculation!

However Hopkins is almost 40 so it would not be a true representation of what he could do :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

watch brewster-krasniqi if you want a reason why US fighers don't like to go to europe. Alternatively watch Holyfield - Lewis 1 to see why Brits don't like fighting in the US, my point being it is always harder fighting in someone else's back yard! Hopkins has been a great fighter and what he did with Tarver was extraordinary and I give him full respect for that and rightly so but... Whilst I believe that Hopkins schooled Tarver I don't believe it was because Hopkins is some kind of demi-god, I put it down more to the inadequacies of Tarver, he should have fought higher tempo and forced the fight, Hopkins is one the best counter tactical fighters there is so Tarver played his game and lost. Calzaghe would not do that. he would throws shots in bunches, change the angles, up the work rate and make Bernard fight, for this reason I would pick Calzaghe. However Hopkins is over 40 so it would not be a true representation of what he could do, for me Hopkins is in the top 10 of the middleweights of all time, probably around 4th or 5th greatest but I would never have paid money to watch him, he was skilled, tricky, elusive and talented and whilst I applaud his talent for me he is boring, boxing is about excitement, Hopkins is not. As for Calzaghe, what ever any one else says he is arguably the greatest super middleweight of all time, he is certainly top three, he may not have fought some of the 'big' names that Hopkins fought but he has reigned for 9 years and has beaten some 6 or 7 former world champions, most on here stated Lacy would destroy him, but Calzaghe absolutely gave him a lesson, then many of those above then stated Lacy was overrated so.... Hopkins great fighter but its time to retire with nothing left to prove!

watch brewster-krasniqi if you want a reason why US fighers don't like to go to europe.

Hopkins vs Calzaghge would be a great fight. but Hopkins has nothing to gain for fighting Calzaghge. he already proved that he is the one of the greatest fighter out there. Calzaghge should step up and stop hiding in GB, and come out and fight better opponents in the US. we always ask european champions to come to the u.s and fight our champions, but i've noticed that when u.s fighters go to europe they get beat. i'd like to see our top fighters go to europe and fight europes top fighters. usa contenders go to europe and get beat, europe fighters go to usa and get beat, not always but usally happens this way.