Camacho JR v.s J C Chavez JR

Bingo....That's Chavez-Camacho in a nutshell. So ur shitting on camacho cuz he lost to trinidad and oscar when he was out of his prime. Why dont we try and remember the hector that dominated from 1983-1992. Thats 10 solid years as a mainstream boxer, yet its not good enough to convince you to put him in the hall of fame, get real man. You knew he was a washed up crack head when he fought tito and oscar.

so ive heard. Alot of Mexicans themselves admit that Chavez fought every cab driver in Tijuana on his way up. you don't think other fighters have tried going the chavez route, only not have the succes chavez had as a boxer? im sure many have tried, but failed, ore else we'd see other boxers with the same succes as chavez. but it will be years or decades before we see another chavez.

hes doing like his dad..blow up ur record fighting bums so ive heard. Alot of Mexicans themselves admit that Chavez fought every cab driver in Tijuana on his way up.

when is Chavez Jr gonna take some real fights, he has a fluffed up 25-0 record and still fighting 6 round fights. If he was half as good as his dad, he should have been challenging for a world title by now if not defending one. I guess they are just milking the Julio Caezar Chavez name to the last drop but it gets tiring after a while to watch a hyped up kid thats not willing to fight a real fighter. hes doing like his dad..blow up ur record fighting bums

when is Chavez Jr gonna take some real fights, he has a fluffed up 25-0 record and still fighting 6 round fights. If he was half as good as his dad, he should have been challenging for a world title by now if not defending one. I guess they are just milking the Julio Caezar Chavez name to the last drop but it gets tiring after a while to watch a hyped up kid thats not willing to fight a real fighter. JLC jr. only had 14 amatuer fights, he needs exposure and experience before he is put in with a world champ.

when is Chavez Jr gonna take some real fights, he has a fluffed up 25-0 record and still fighting 6 round fights. If he was half as good as his dad, he should have been challenging for a world title by now if not defending one. I guess they are just milking the Julio Caezar Chavez name to the last drop but it gets tiring after a while to watch a hyped up kid thats not willing to fight a real fighter.

camacho jr is like 30...and fights @ 168...chavez jr is like 17 and fights @ 140..i dont see how this fight would go down @ THE GUY WHO SAID CAMACHO WANTED TO FIGHT CHAVEZ A YEAR AGO

i think that win was all dollars and sense, camacho got 1 million dollars and chavez got 1 million dollars while king pobably got 20 million Bingo....That's Chavez-Camacho in a nutshell.

Kdog- Chavez faced Camacho after Edwin and Greg Haugen, and after he became a crackhead. Maybe he changed his style after Edwin, but that doesnt say much sense his one of Chavezs biggest wins. It was one of his biggest wins because of inaccurate public perception of Camacho.

LOL!!!! Camacho's performance again Ramirez was a masterpiece. In his youth, at jr. lightweight and lightweight (pre-Rosario) Hector Camacho was poetry in motion. Which is probably why I'm so damn hard on him. I know what could have been...or at least I suspect; but he let all of that natural God-given talen dry up without doing enough with it. Do you take the potential he had in his youth, pit it against the losses against the best competition he ever faced and put him in the hall? I can't. There's too much left to be desired. I agree with you 100%. Camacho is the Dwight Gooden of boxing. Blessed with great talent, exploded on the scene, didn't fullfil his true potential, overall career is considered still good. Both are two of sports biggest "what could of been."

Trust me, I'm just as hard on Leonard and every other embelishor of the truth. Glad to hear it.

I know what Chavez did to Rosario, its what Camacho did to Ramirez what I am talking about. and i don't know, so i'd like to see for myself. and if you don't think chavez was holding back against ramirez then we disaggree

i got this fight on cassete, and its evident chavez was holding back if you want to trade fight i'll upload chavez v. rosario and you upload camacho v. rosario, i'll email you the link and you do the same I know what Chavez did to Rosario, its what Camacho did to Ramirez what I am talking about.

Kdog- Chavez faced Camacho after Edwin and Greg Haugen, and after he became a crackhead. Maybe he changed his style after Edwin, but that doesnt say much sense his one of Chavezs biggest wins. i think that win was all dollars and sense, camacho got 1 million dollars and chavez got 1 million dollars while king pobably got 20 million

Although JCC is one of my favorite fighters, I have to agree with you, he has been gifted several decisions. Its funny how ferocity is saying that Camacho looked better against Ramirez than JCC did bc JCC was Ramirez's freind, so he took it easy on him. Hector humiliated Ramirez. Styles make fights, and Ramirez was just not smart enough to do anything agains Hector. i got this fight on cassete, and its evident chavez was holding back if you want to trade fight i'll upload chavez v. rosario and you upload camacho v. rosario, i'll email you the link and you do the same

blah blah, chavez is king of gifts. We can go through all his questionable decsions if you want to too. Although JCC is one of my favorite fighters, I have to agree with you, he has been gifted several decisions. Its funny how ferocity is saying that Camacho looked better against Ramirez than JCC did bc JCC was Ramirez's freind, so he took it easy on him. Hector humiliated Ramirez. Styles make fights, and Ramirez was just not smart enough to do anything agains Hector.

blah blah, chavez is king of gifts. We can go through all his questionable decsions if you want to too. go ahead and start it off, im interested to hear opinons

and you can say he ran from haugen and got a gift decision, that i belive was later changed to a lose chavez could have ko'd ramierez in the 1st round if he wanted too but they were friends and chavez clearly took it easy on him, i don't know how camacho did against ramierez chavez destroyed rosario, one side demolishion, camachos style changed after facing rosario, but i haven't seen camacho v. rosario but you make a good point, but differnce is chavez ran through these guys unlike camacho, but i think camacho will get into the hof Now THAT's a post. Props.....I forgot about Ramirez and Chavez being friend; but you're right. I remember that now. Julio did seem like he was pulling his punches that night. I wish I still had it on tape.

Rosario....check; but Chavez beat Edwin in far more convincing fashion. Ramirez....check; got to give Hector his due here. That win of his over Jose was far more impressive than Julio's. Okay let's see. Hector's A list: Jose Luis Ramirez...impressive Edwin Rosario......not impressive Cornelius Boza Edwards....impressive Rafael Limon.....impressive Ray Mancini....after layoff of 4 years, and still a close and dull fight....not impressive Vinny Pazienza.....impressive, unless you accept that Paz was overrated....oh, it's true. Greg Haugen......lost....Greg was at his best at 135, not 140. Greg Haugen......not that impressive of a win; but Greg is a tough cookie Julio Caesar Chavez......Hector took the Mother of All Beatings Felix Trinidad........'nother beating; but Hector's on the skids Oscar De La Hoya......'nuther beating; but Hector is old. I won't even mention the Chris Walsh fight. Okay, here's the problem. Hector could have faced Mancini before Ray retired....didn't. Also, didn't give Rosario a rematch. With Hector, he soon realized the gravy train was passing him by and then he started to beat the war drums and demand fights.....'cause he wanted the money. Wins over an old Duran, an old Leonard, an overrated Vinny Pazienza, and Greg Haugen do not a great fighter's resume make. Hector beat the second tier of guys, not the top....except in his youth; and he just didn't do enough over the course of his career to warrant the title of All time Great. Not to me.

Jose Luis Ramirez, Edwin Rosario, Oscar De La Hoya, Greg Haugen ect infact, you could say some of those Camacho fought first. and you can say he ran from haugen and got a gift decision, that i belive was later changed to a lose chavez could have ko'd ramierez in the 1st round if he wanted too but they were friends and chavez clearly took it easy on him, i don't know how camacho did against ramierez chavez destroyed rosario, one side demolishion, camachos style changed after facing rosario, but i haven't seen camacho v. rosario but you make a good point, but differnce is chavez ran through these guys unlike camacho, but i think camacho will get into the hof