Any fight that John Ruiz was involved in. He fouls more than anyone I've ever seen, he sucks and should be banned from the sport, and forced to sell used cars.
In most fights, with most refs, Hopkins would have been DQ'd in Echols 2. Weeks never even took a point! Or offered Echols time to recover!
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LOL You have to fix that gif. That looks so wrong. :D
You obviously haven't seen the fight.
Echols didn't turn his back. They were in a clinch and Hopkins held and slid around onto his back and hit him as soon as he was behind him. Hopkins is a dirty fighter, that's well known. But Echols was, too, that's why he wasn't penalized or DQ'd.
Exactly, it was seriously blatant but Weeks just allowed that stuff the entire fight. Never really cautioned Hopkins on anything really.
I dont know and doubt that it was the dirtiest fight ever but it was really dirty and villanious.
HOWEVER we forgot the MOST BLATANT foul of them all.......Tyson biting off part of Holyfields ear. If Weeks was referring that fight he would told Holyfield to suck it up and get back into the fight.
On a side note in a wrestling match in which one of my teammates was wrestling there was another crazy foul. My teammate was attempting a move in which he was stepping over the guys head in order gain better position and leverage himself for a pin. He yells out a couple of times and we thought it was weird but just assumed it was from the exertion. The period ends in that position without a pin and the opponent gets up talking smack and my teammate is talking smack right back...He complains to the ref and the ref is kinda ignoring him thinking that its just the regular complaints but then he shifts his uniform and shows that he has a bite mark that is purple but didnt get to break skin. The bite mark is like 2 inches from his nuts way inside his thigh. The other guys lost his match by forfeit and had to leave immediately, and was banned from wrestling for the remainder of the year.
With out a doubt, it would have to be the two fights with Andrew Golata-Riddick Bowe. In that fight Golata was applying serious punishment to Riddick Bowe, but stupidly started low blowing Bowe. He was DQ'ed twice on a myriad of low blows. It was really head scratching stuff.
Honorable mentions: Manny Pacquiao's nightmarish rumble with the late Agapito Sanchez. Trinidad-Vargas was a great fight that happened to have 4 knockdowns and 4 major fouls in the first four rounds. Hopkins-Echols was another good fight that featured fouls that didn't diminish the entertainment value of the bout, but enhanced it. Echols threw Hopkins to the floor and dislocated his shoulder. Hopkins, opting to continue instead of being awarded a victory by disqualification. He probably elected to continue in the fight because he didn't want his record breaking title defense win to be diminished by the means of victory. But thats still crazy, because at that time no one wanted to fight Echols because he just didn't give a damn.
The heavyweight championship changed hands when Jack Sharkey, the defending heavyweight champion of the world, inadvertently lowblowed Max Schmelling and left the challenger unable to continue. I think it was bullshit because if you watch the tape, Schmelling clearly jumped in the air, moving his nuts in the path of the shot. That fight should've been declared a No-Contest, not a DQ.
"protect yourself at all times"
"if a fighter turns his back on his opponet he automaticly loses"
You obviously haven't seen the fight.
Echols didn't turn his back. They were in a clinch and Hopkins held and slid around onto his back and hit him as soon as he was behind him. Hopkins is a dirty fighter, that's well known. But Echols was, too, that's why he wasn't penalized or DQ'd.
In most fights, with most refs, Hopkins would have been DQ'd in Echols 2. Weeks never even took a point! Or offered Echols time to recover!
http://www.arcade2084.com/boxing/hopkinsfoul.gif
"protect yourself at all times"
"if a fighter turns his back on his opponet he automaticly loses"
In most fights, with most refs, Hopkins would have been DQ'd in Echols 2. Weeks never even took a point! Or offered Echols time to recover!
http://www.arcade2084.com/boxing/hopkinsfoul.gif
And another bad low blow was Roberto Duran winning the Lightweight title from Ken Buchanan. Buchanan had to go to the hospital afterword. R.I.P. Buchanan's nuts.
Off the Top of my head, Tyson-Ruddock II comes to mind. Hopkins-Echols II is another, though I don't remember how many fouls were committed in that one. There was won on ESPN in the mid-80's where the guy got disqualified for mashing this guy's nuts like every other round. IT's on my tenth aniversary tape of their Fight Series...before it was cancelled. Can't remember the guys name; but if anybody deserved to be beat to a pulp with a baseball bat in the parking lot afterwards, it was him. I remember the recipiant had red hair and a mustache and I think they were welterweights; but I'm not sure. Made Golota-Bowe look like a bad stoppage...both of 'em.
If I remember correctly, the Showtime undercard to Hatton-Magee had one guy battering the other's nuts so bad he could barely stand by the end of the fight - dude got a couple warnings every round, it seemed...
It depends.
If you consider excessive holding a foul, any Ruiz fight.
For low blows, I have to go with Hatton. I remember a fight a couple of years (I don't remember the opponent's name, but I think he was Irish) where Hatton threw 17 low blows (blatantly low) before ever drawing a caution from Micky Vann. He continued to hit low through the last 3 rounds without another caution.
What about Hopkins' positives? Like, recognize his positives. I could make any fighter out there look like an asshole if I posted all his negatives, why don't you talk about how he's the best defensive fighter in the sport today? If that topic doesn't interest you, let's chat about how he's the most generally skilled fighter in the ring today. Mayweather doesn't compare to Hopkins when you talk about general ring skills.
A great fighter will foul when he has to, it shouldn't be considered a terrible thing. The greats will do what they have to do to win, of course Golata v Bowe and Hop's shot on Echols behind the head are way, way overboard. What I'm talking about is sneaking in a headbutt while you have a good bit of energy and are losing the fight, cause the cut, or lay in a good headbutt and then use that energy before the round is up. Hopkins did it vs Taylor and honestly, while it may appear to you to be a cheap, ugly move, to me I appreciated the strategy involved in it. Hopkins understood he was behind, and did everything he could to win, short of setting himself up to be knocked out. He got a good bit of energy, popped off an unintentional headbutt, got Taylor a nice little cut, then he suprised him while Taylor was suprised himself by the trickle of blood going down his face. You shouldn't hate fighters just for fighting dirty, unless they are named Golata, he takes it to a whole new level, 3-shot powerpunch combos on the dick & balls and shit.
I see your point. But its the way Hopkins bills himself for fights that annoys me. The way he speaks in interviews would make you think that he was a brawler and is gonna take guys out but he is actually a technical fighter with excellent defense and good counters. But he is also very blatantly dirty and uses a lot of rough house stuff that is really bad then wants to come off as the victim :confused:
I appreciate defensive fighters, Pernell is one of my favorites and I actually enjoyed James Tonys and PBF defensive abilites also. However there defensive abilities were show cased against guys bigger than themselves and stronger than themselves. Hopkins to my knowledge hasn't beaten a real middle weight great fighter, if his skills were in such abundance he should've taken out Taylor.
The thread was also about dirty fights and I dont think I'm wrong in saying that Hopkins vs Echols 2 was an extremely dirty fight for Hopkins. Roy Jones got DQ'd for a foul less aggrevis and intentional than what Hopkins did that fight.
As far as Golota, damn that man used Bowe's balls as a speed bag. But the crazy thing is that I think he was winning the fights and could've won if he never got DQ :confused: . I mean he is either really stupid or really unstable mentally.
Off the Top of my head, Tyson-Ruddock II comes to mind. Hopkins-Echols II is another, though I don't remember how many fouls were committed in that one. There was won on ESPN in the mid-80's where the guy got disqualified for mashing this guy's nuts like every other round. IT's on my tenth aniversary tape of their Fight Series...before it was cancelled. Can't remember the guys name; but if anybody deserved to be beat to a pulp with a baseball bat in the parking lot afterwards, it was him. I remember the recipiant had red hair and a mustache and I think they were welterweights; but I'm not sure. Made Golota-Bowe look like a bad stoppage...both of 'em.
Golota-Bowe series, rabbit punches, low blows! Golota was winning, but the nutcase that he is, he can't control his frustration of not having decked Bowe...finally hit the champ with a killer uppercut to his balls LOL :D
Pacquiao-Sanchez, low blows, elbows, Agapito planting his knee and his weight on top of Pac's left thigh after downing him with a low blow for the nth time...that's what made Pac grimace in pain! unable to walk for about 10 mins.
These fights always come to mind when discussing this topic.