Pacquiao sparring with Juan Lazcano

the fight would be in the evening i guess. solar sports has the rights to it but theyre showing the heat-pistons game 3. well yeah i have to check BS to get the news. good thing z gets to win.i hope oscar gives him a good career. well, goodluck pal on your flkight and regards to your family there. as for rockin and asian, theyre just probably kiddin around :D. i could box these silly two in no time (im 180 :D) ..heheh just kiddin lolOh, the fight's to be replayed tonight yet. I'm gonna miss it. Learned that there were three KDs. Too bad Z didn't get to finish it off with a flourish. That would have raised his KO to 13 out of 24 wins. As it is, it's right at 50%. Good win just the same. Thanks pal. Catcha ya sometime soon! Ditto to you and your family. God bless

A few things I didn't get done the last time I was here pal. Had to rush back then fly out again tonight. Yesterday I was told the Z Goress fight will be on TV here. Surfed the channels starting at 10 this morning till two or three. Didn't get the fight. Got on my laptop and checked with fightnews and got the dose. Dropped by at BoxingScene (couldn't go on with my day without the fix, ;) ), posted some, read the war of words between Rockin1 and Asian Sensation out on a thread that is really aburning (wonder if you spotted it already), then checked my CP and saw your post. I'll be moving along in a little while, pal. Good to see ya! Check with you from somewhere whenever time permits. Best to the Pinoys! Take it easy!:) the fight would be in the evening i guess. solar sports has the rights to it but theyre showing the heat-pistons game 3. well yeah i have to check BS to get the news. good thing z gets to win.i hope oscar gives him a good career. well, goodluck pal on your flkight and regards to your family there. as for rockin and asian, theyre just probably kiddin around :D. i could box these silly two in no time (im 180 :D) ..heheh just kiddin lol

And, Ace, old buddy, that thread (Asian vs. Rockin1) is heating up even more. Lottdog has joined the fray! Wonder how many more shall before the whole thing cools down...

Well yes pareng grayfist, Manny's planning to run for politics say in 3 years time. IO think is as good as 3-4 more fights and he'll call it quits. hwne he started, his main objective was only to beat barrera. and now that he has beaten the best amopng the FWs, there's nothing more really to prove. His succeeding fights, he's just in it for the money. btw, what you doin in manila ??? why do you have to leave all of a sudden?A few things I didn't get done the last time I was here pal. Had to rush back then fly out again tonight. Yesterday I was told the Z Goress fight will be on TV here. Surfed the channels starting at 10 this morning till two or three. Didn't get the fight. Got on my laptop and checked with fightnews and got the dose. Dropped by at BoxingScene (couldn't go on with my day without the fix, ;) ), posted some, read the war of words between Rockin1 and Asian Sensation out on a thread that is really aburning (wonder if you spotted it already), then checked my CP and saw your post. I'll be moving along in a little while, pal. Good to see ya! Check with you from somewhere whenever time permits. Best to the Pinoys! Take it easy!:)

Well yes pareng grayfist, Manny's planning to run for politics say in 3 years time. IO think is as good as 3-4 more fights and he'll call it quits. hwne he started, his main objective was only to beat barrera. and now that he has beaten the best amopng the FWs, there's nothing more really to prove. His succeeding fights, he's just in it for the money. btw, what you doin in manila ??? why do you have to leave all of a sudden? Health is always a concern, pal. He was 17 when he was a straweight. In the Dele Disierto fight I think he was already at fly. When he was KOd by Torrecampo, he had to wear the bigger gloves because he came in above the weight limit. Torrecampo was in trouble in the first and second but survived because Pac's punches had lesser effect. It's to early to speak of retirement for Pac. The guy is at his peak. The more people talk about retirement, the more he hears about it and the more he hears about it, his warrior instincts get tinged with doubts. Pac started off as a very cocky kid. I still have copies of tapes sent to me by friends of his early fights where Henson and Nathanielz, who were covering the fights, appeared put off by his cockiness. But I think that self-confidence is the foundation of what makes Manny, Manny Pacquiao. When he begins to doubt, much is lost. The fight game is as much mental as it is physical. By the way, pal, I'm back in Manila. Got in yesterday morning but will be flying out tomorrow evening. :)

Hey grayfist, it's good to see that you're playing manager of Manny Pacquiao but I'm not sure if you knew that Manny already announced his interest in politics. By late 2007, he might be running for mayor in his wife's hometown. I think Pac only has 3 fights left in his career, against Larios, Morales and Barrera. As much as I would like to see Pac vs. Juarez, Barrios, Freitas, Marquez, etc., I don't see those fights happening at all. Pac knows his style is damaging to his health and I think he will retire and pursue another career before he reaches the age of 29. Heya buddy! Pacquiao in politics! That's something! I didn't know that, pal. So, three fights and that's it, eh? That may be for the best, all around, except for us fight fans. Manny will certainly be missed by his fans and detractors alike. The latter won't have Manny to vent their frustrations on anymore.;) Or, they may keep at it and cite Manny's ducking Juarez, Barrios, Popo et al. Oh, well.... Speaking of playing manager, looks like the adage, "...the plans of mice and men..." has come right smack on my face. Oh, well, I'm a tough one buddy. I'll keep on playing manager every once in a while and replenish the stocks in my stable. Get ahead of developments as a good manager should,(as I pretend to be) eh? Maybe it's about time I try to sign that kid from Bohol? Hmmm... Boom Boom Bautista. Hey, Oscar, where's that kid? I want a piece of him!:D Good to see ya too, pal! Keep punchin'!

Hey grayfist, it's good to see that you're playing manager of Manny Pacquiao but I'm not sure if you knew that Manny already announced his interest in politics. By late 2007, he might be running for mayor in his wife's hometown. I think Pac only has 3 fights left in his career, against Larios, Morales and Barrera. As much as I would like to see Pac vs. Juarez, Barrios, Freitas, Marquez, etc., I don't see those fights happening at all. Pac knows his style is damaging to his health and I think he will retire and pursue another career before he reaches the age of 29.

its funny how everybody is settin up a schedule like theres no doubt that hes even gonna beat larios, and then beat all the other names or something, he must really got a place in ur guys hearts, well just have to wait and see. and i also had lazcano/casamayor beatin castillo.I did the original schedule but it was in response to proposals that Manny go up to Lightweight to face the likes of Corrales and Castillo. The schedule was posted to illustrate that Pacquiao does not have to do that to be recognized as one of boxing's greatest, enhance his chances for entry to the IHOF and rake in some big dough. I said in the original post that Manny's plate is already full at Jr. Lightweight, so, he does not have to toy with any idea of putting on additional weight. A two to three year schedule peopled by MAB, Morales, Juarez, Marquez, Barrios, Guzman, et al, though tight, is more to Pacquiao's career boon than prospects against Corrales and Castillo, both of whom I guessed (as I am guessing now) shall not be at Lightweight much longer than mere hours after their upcoming third encounter. The Jr. Lightweight division has not been unified for decades and Pacquiao has a good shot at it. I think it was a Filipino, Gabriel "Flash" Elorde who last held what amounted to a unified throne, though I'm not sure. Elorde won the widely recognized world title from Harold Gomes, successfully defended it against the same Gomes, Joey Lopes, Sergio Caprari and Auburn Copeland prior to the split that resulted in the creation of the WBA and WBC, both of which recognized Elorde as Jr. Light champ, jointly sanctioning Elorde's subsequent defenses against the likes of Johnny Bizzaro, Love Allotey, Terou Kosaka and others. The other great ones like Azumah Nelson, Salvador Sanchez, Alexis Arguello, Jeff Fenech, Julio Cesar Chavez and Wilfredo Gomez (who ruled much better at lower weights) did not manage to do it for various reasons, including politics, death, inability (e.g., Gomez who failed to capture the WBC version but subsequently took the WBA version from Rocky Lockridge then lost it on his first defense to Alfredo Layne), or whatever else have you. With respect unification, Pacquiao has a chance to do The Professor, Chava, El Flaco, JC and company one better, and that shall be a feat that cannot be overlooked when they reckon things at Canastota in the future. It's an opportunity that should not be passed up in favor of a tentative or risky (some would call it foolish) run at a higher weight. As for looking beyond Larios, I agree that no fighter should look beyond the next fight. It's the fighter's job to focus on each fight. With that said, I quickly add that it is also the job of managers and promoters to look to the future and the future embraces all that are about to come. In Manny's case, Larios and beyond. A manager who does not look to the future cannot deserve his cut of the purse and a promoter who is inept at mapping out then executing future plans should have his license revoked. As for my looking at the future, well, I'm neither manager nor promoter; I'm a fan, and fans can play fighter, manager, promoter, cornerman, tv commentator, prophet, doomsayer, cheerleader, historian, statistician or whatever else is there to play. That's what fans do. That's why games where fans play whatever role they wish to play, are a thriving business. Majority of fans experience the thrill of sports by empathy. Most baseball fans can't find homeplate even with a magnifying glass, majority of basketball-batty people can't jump an inch and some of those who pay their way expensively to attend Masters' tourneys in Atlanta and Scotland are better off taking their swing to the dance floor. But fans are fans and they have the inherent right to do what fans do. Much in the manner that is proclaimed by self-professed avatars of the "Age of Aquarius" in addressing all creation, to wit, "No less than the trees and the stars, you have the right to be here." Fans can even criticize other fans, for reasons that may be informed, ill-informed, uninformed, logical, illogical, passionate, clinical, timid, courageous, tipid, confused, sure, etc., etc., etc. as have been seen in threads and posts here at BoxingScene and in other sites that encourage free discussions in their fora.

Pac will KO Larios eazy. He destroyed Barrera and Moraes. How can he not beat Larios? Shyt, Larios is nothing but a 3K Battery for Pac. :D pacman is in for a surprise :boxing:

Diego will destroy Manny as well as most 135lbs playas. Manny's greatest asset at the moment is his speed which he still carries up at 130lbs though it isn't like it was at 126lbs. His speed is what's helping him land those power shots and ultimately helps his power period. Without it, he's just a generic southpaw fighter with decent defense and keeps throwing punches. At 135lbs, he'll be hit like he's never been hit before and his punches I don't think will carry the same effect to hurt them. Also, I don't like how they keep talking like they are gonna just walk right through Larios. It'll be a big mistake. At the press conference Manny was like, yeah, Larios for July and rematch with Morales in October. I guess he assumes the Morales rematch happens even if he loses then because it just didn't sound like he was taking it serious at all. Larios has this big opportunity now and he can easily take it. Manny's talking in press conference doesn't mean anything. He'll KO Larios. You can't tell what's gonna happen judging it on press conference.

its funny how everybody is settin up a schedule like theres no doubt that hes even gonna beat larios, and then beat all the other names or something, he must really got a place in ur guys hearts, well just have to wait and see. and i also had lazcano/casamayor beatin castillo. Pac will KO Larios eazy. He destroyed Barrera and Moraes. How can he not beat Larios? Shyt, Larios is nothing but a 3K Battery for Pac. :D

Diego will destroy Manny as well as most 135lbs playas. Manny's greatest asset at the moment is his speed which he still carries up at 130lbs though it isn't like it was at 126lbs. His speed is what's helping him land those power shots and ultimately helps his power period. Without it, he's just a generic southpaw fighter with decent defense and keeps throwing punches. At 135lbs, he'll be hit like he's never been hit before and his punches I don't think will carry the same effect to hurt them. Also, I don't like how they keep talking like they are gonna just walk right through Larios. It'll be a big mistake. At the press conference Manny was like, yeah, Larios for July and rematch with Morales in October. I guess he assumes the Morales rematch happens even if he loses then because it just didn't sound like he was taking it serious at all. Larios has this big opportunity now and he can easily take it.

Diego Corrales is like 6 feet tall and on fight night probably weighs around 155 lbs... Pacquiao is my boy but a fight against Diego Corrales would end his career, if he fights at lightweight I think he could dominate some of the smaller lightweights like maybe Chavez but someone like Corrales is too big. i completely agree with you. Corrales is a big dude. Corrales would catch Pacquiao with a lot of jabs and right hands from the outside. Corrales is just simply too big for pacquiao

only those that didnt actually see castillo vs lazcano would be dumb enough to say castillo murdered him fact is it was a close fight i scored it for lazcano download the fight and watch it instead of asking if im serious dont be an idiot also watch castillos fights with casamayor and stevie johnston 2 both of which i thought those guys beat him pretty convincingly heck casamayor only lost 3 rounds but was screwed to make way for corrales vs castillo everyone knows that and someone said corrales can box? lmfao uh show me some clips of his boxing please lmao cause ive never seen him box effectively freitas was completely outboxing him and freitas sucks as a boxer generally corrales cant box well at all damn i cant believe people say and believe that its like ok when has he ever done it oh well he hasnt but u know he could if he wanted he just doesnt and hasnt ever cause well not cause he cant cause he can no he hasnt because he cant and dont even mention that pathetic attempt at a jab that he throws its laughable at best

well actually thats the issue in manila after the morales fight, its when will pac hang the gloves. true, pac hasnt been hurt for so many years now, but having to come from straweight to SFW is a long way. JMM MAB and EM fights all went the distance and it may not be noticeable yet, but we'd rather see him retire in good health rather than suffer any long term damage. he has enough money to feed 3 generations in his family, i think thats enough. btw, pareng grayfist, where are you now?Health is always a concern, pal. He was 17 when he was a straweight. In the Dele Disierto fight I think he was already at fly. When he was KOd by Torrecampo, he had to wear the bigger gloves because he came in above the weight limit. Torrecampo was in trouble in the first and second but survived because Pac's punches had lesser effect. It's to early to speak of retirement for Pac. The guy is at his peak. The more people talk about retirement, the more he hears about it and the more he hears about it, his warrior instincts get tinged with doubts. Pac started off as a very cocky kid. I still have copies of tapes sent to me by friends of his early fights where Henson and Nathanielz, who were covering the fights, appeared put off by his cockiness. But I think that self-confidence is the foundation of what makes Manny, Manny Pacquiao. When he begins to doubt, much is lost. The fight game is as much mental as it is physical. By the way, pal, I'm back in Manila. Got in yesterday morning but will be flying out tomorrow evening. :)

Anyone have this video?

Sorry to disagree, buddy. That's just a little ratcheting up of what Pac had done when he successively met Lucero, Barrera and JMM in a period of less than 10 months. It seems to me that Pac's body can suffer a bit more outside the ring than in it. Example: I have never heard of him having been hospitalized after a fight. He was recently as a result of a frenetic social whirl.;) well actually thats the issue in manila after the morales fight, its when will pac hang the gloves. true, pac hasnt been hurt for so many years now, but having to come from straweight to SFW is a long way. JMM MAB and EM fights all went the distance and it may not be noticeable yet, but we'd rather see him retire in good health rather than suffer any long term damage. he has enough money to feed 3 generations in his family, i think thats enough. btw, pareng grayfist, where are you now?

dream fights, nightmare for pac's health :oSorry to disagree, buddy. That's just a little ratcheting up of what Pac had done when he successively met Lucero, Barrera and JMM in a period of less than 10 months. It seems to me that Pac's body can suffer a bit more outside the ring than in it. Example: I have never heard of him having been hospitalized after a fight. He was recently as a result of a frenetic social whirl.;)

hey guys anybody got the video? just like to see how big lazcano is... and i agree with you bro. grayfist that line-up of fights you mentioned is good and very compatible with PAC's plan to retire at the age of 30 ...30 or 32,33, pal. The schedule can be stretched: say, MAB, Juarez for 07 then Barrios, JMM 08, two unification bouts 09. Two huge fights in a year: that's pretty much under Pac's pace/norm in the past two to three years. Remember that he fought Lucero, Barrera and Marquez in succession over a period of less than 10 months. Two pound-for-pound guys and one undefeated prospect. This year, if Morales III comes about, Pac shall have racked up three fights, two megas (Morales II was in January this year and MOrales III before year's end) and one more that cannot be called a tune-up, what with Pac facing a Larios. Come to think of it. In 07, Pac can begin sometime in March with MAB, take JMM at mid-year (IF that can be made) then Juarez sometime November-December. Barrios can be for 08. If he beats both MAB and Barrios, he'll have half the main belts that's there to be had and after two more victories (Mosquera? etc?) can be called undisputed.

Oct.~Nov. 2006 - Morales 3 Feb.~Mar. 2007 - Barrera 2 Jun.~Jul. 2007 - Juarez Sep.~Oct. 2007 - Barrios Dec. 2007 - Marquez 2 dream fights, nightmare for pac's health :o