I just got a chance to go back on HBO On-Demand and was watching the MAB vs Rocky Juarez fight and was watching ther interview with Hopkins and Tarver....now ive got to ask the opinions of you guys....
Is Tarver as good as he says?...I've seen a few of his fights and obviously he is impressive, but calling himself the best light heavy ever, and the best fighter Hopkins has ever faced....
am I stupid for thinking if Hopkins comes out fighting that he has a shot at Tarver? or is he truly that much better than Bernard?
Soda
iam a huge roy jones fan, i even met the man but im not going to hate, antionio tarver is a good fucking fighter. he may be boring but his skills are sharp nad he is tough match for anybody around his weight.
did Roy Jones ever beat any p4p'ers? Hopkins wasn't at the time. Toney, I'll give you that one.
I never liked RJJ to begin with and your right...other than Toney he hasn't beat any p4p. The only props i really give Jones is the fight with the much larger Johnny Ruiz. Glen Johnson beating RJJ wasnt much of an accomplishment IMO just because RJJ was already a defeated fighter before that fight even began and didn't have the confidence of old.
I just got a chance to go back on HBO On-Demand and was watching the MAB vs Rocky Juarez fight and was watching ther interview with Hopkins and Tarver....now ive got to ask the opinions of you guys....
Is Tarver as good as he says?...I've seen a few of his fights and obviously he is impressive, but calling himself the best light heavy ever, and the best fighter Hopkins has ever faced....
am I stupid for thinking if Hopkins comes out fighting that he has a shot at Tarver? or is he truly that much better than Bernard?
Soda
No No and hell no. He is a heavy wieght fighting at light heavy and that is the sole reason he is a problem for anyone in that division. If he moves up to cruiser or heavy against someone credible, he gets ktfo. He is 61 or 2 and walks around at 210 even before the rocy movie.Don't be suprized iflil old man bernard beats him.
I'm not a huge fan of the light heavy div and I never like RJJ to begin with just because of his style but what has Tarver really accomplished ? Other than a declining RJJ who has he beat ? I dont see Eric Harding , Montell Griffin nor Glen Johnson anywhere in anyones p4p list.
did Roy Jones ever beat any p4p'ers? Hopkins wasn't at the time. Toney, I'll give you that one.
I'm not a huge fan of the light heavy div and I never like RJJ to begin with just because of his style but what has Tarver really accomplished ? Other than a declining RJJ who has he beat ? I dont see Eric Harding , Montell Griffin nor Glen Johnson anywhere in anyones p4p list.
well, Montell Griffin technically beat RJJ and Toney twice, though I disagreed with all three decisions. Johnson beat RJJ also and probably deserved to beat a lot of other fighters EXCLUDING of course Bernard Hopkins. Eric Harding I'm pretty sure has only lost to RJJ and Tarver, and he gave them both good fights. So...you know... :D
What's sad is all of you will always find a way to discredit Tarver for beating up your heroes. No matter what he does, none of you will ever have anything but excuses for him. His last PPV fight against RJJ was called "NO EXCUSES" but what happens immediately after? EVERYONE makes excuses EXCEPT RJJ himself. Jones after the third Tarver fight said Tarver would have caused him problems AT ANY POINT IN HIS CAREER. If Roy can admit it, then why can't any of you ignorant fuckheads?
I'm not a huge fan of the light heavy div and I never like RJJ to begin with just because of his style but what has Tarver really accomplished ? Other than a declining RJJ who has he beat ? I dont see Eric Harding , Montell Griffin nor Glen Johnson anywhere in anyones p4p list.
he even admitted that he was snorting coke while watching rjj fight in the olympics and he decided to start fighting again. he might be the same age as roy but he has half the fights, and half the training camps, which count for something. he is a fresher 37 and an ugly son of a bitch........ glad you liked it
so basically the great Roy Jones got beat up by a crackhead three times? wow, you must really hate RJJ to say something like that.
What's sad is all of you will always find a way to discredit Tarver for beating up your heroes. No matter what he does, none of you will ever have anything but excuses for him. His last PPV fight against RJJ was called "NO EXCUSES" but what happens immediately after? EVERYONE makes excuses EXCEPT RJJ himself. Jones after the third Tarver fight said Tarver would have caused him problems AT ANY POINT IN HIS CAREER. If Roy can admit it, then why can't any of you ignorant fuckheads?
tarver waited until roy got old,. and the first fight roy won a deserved decision, tarver only fought in spurts. roy won the first round of the second fight, but got caught with the punch that ultimately ruined his ability to take a punch., in history tarver is nothing, he ain;'t no hofer and he isn't better than rjj overall. and if he beats hopkins he certainly didn't beat the prime hopkins who fucked up tito and dominated for so long. he appeared at the right time, that coke head motherfucker, he's ugly as hell too.
LMAO , LMAO
I'm just agreeing with you. I actually thought he won the first RJJ fight but that was some funny shit. Tarver reigns supreme in the div cuz there aint no competition to begin with.
How do you see this fight ending? Hopkins knocks out Tarver, or just a 12 round win for Hopkins.
I see a KO, I want to see Tarver fall to the ground and lose this fight early. :boxing:
i see hopkins winning this by KO/TKO. hopkins will be all over tarver in the later rounds when he smells blood
How do you see this fight ending? Hopkins knocks out Tarver, or just a 12 round win for Hopkins.
I see a KO, I want to see Tarver fall to the ground and lose this fight early. :boxing:
Tarver is a pretty good counter puncher, but Hopkins is by far the better technical fighter, I think. Hopkins has pretty fast hands, even though his workrate has dropped quite a bit. I hope Hopkins keeps more of that speed, and can take a lot of early rounds on points and then break Tarver down late. If he can get Tarver pushing the fight more in the later rounds, Hopkins will take him. Tarver doesn't have the stamina to be the aggressor and steal the late rounds in a close fight.
Tarver has the worst late-round stamina ... he almost punched himself unconcious against Roy Jones in their 3rd fight, and he'd barely thrown any punches. To me, if Hopkins can handle him for the first 8 rounds, and win at least 3, he has a good chance of beating Tarver by winning the late rounds. Tarver's horrible stamina is perfect for Hopkins, who's workrate has dropped significantly.
Tarver is a good fighter, no doubt. But to be great, he's gonna have to do a bit more. He can start by beating Hopkins. He wants to be known as the legend killer because he beat one good fighter, after losing his first match to him ... if that's all it takes, then Buster Douglas holds the title of Legend Killer and Tarver is still in 2nd place at best.
watch his first fight with eric harding, tarver completely melts down under pressure in the last 2 rounds. he goes down out of panic in the 11th and then doesent land a single punch in the 12th. tarver is a great frontrunner, but hopkins is going to break his will in this fight.
How do you see this fight ending? Hopkins knocks out Tarver, or just a 12 round win for Hopkins.
I see a KO, I want to see Tarver fall to the ground and lose this fight early. :boxing:
When it comes to Tarver, this forum is full of cry baby bitches. All I hear is waahh wahh waahh Tarver knocked out my boy or waah waah Tarver talks too much. Get over it. Tarver is the man right now. Give him credit and stop hating on him for kicking Roy's overrated ass three times.
After Tarver losses to Hopkins on June 10th, Tarver will be known as over rated. He already is over hyped, IMO.
watch his first fight with eric harding, tarver completely melts down under pressure in the last 2 rounds. he goes down out of panic in the 11th and then doesent land a single punch in the 12th. tarver is a great frontrunner, but hopkins is going to break his will in this fight.
I hope Bernard KO's Tarver (Sorry Raesaad i know tarver's your boy) for being a crackhead and bitching about being on the wrong side of the screen. Its like bernard said, I aint worried about who's on that front whos on that cover come June 10 the truth will happen
Oh yeah it is June 10th.I don't know what the fuck I was thinking.Tarver will win tho I have very little doubts.He is more of a young 37 than Hopins is 41 and bigger.