Best defense ? (apart from the obvious )

Marlon Starling

i think i'll have to go with arturo thunder gatti. throughout his career defense has been whats gotten him through many of his fights

EvilSaint, how can you say Bernard Hopkins 'isn't that good defensively'.. I'm not trying to flame on you, but that was just, well, funny to me. Hopkins defense is in the top three. I'd put Hopkins at #1 defense in the world, and Floyd at #2. Before you argue how much better Floyd's defense is, look how many straight shots he took from Zab. Not grazing blows either, Floyd was takin hard shots and being hurt by them. I consider Jermain Taylor a much better fighter than Zab Judah, but that isn't what I'm getting to- Jermain's cross is a better weapon than Zab's, and Bernard never really got tagged 'flush' by it. Instead, he did what I just said above, and used his hands and head together to anticipate shots, and in the worst case scenario, he'd roll with the shot and not even take any damage. And if you try to mix it up on the inside with Bernard you'll just be missing all night.. Winky's defense, now that's methodical. He doesn't even utilize head movement. Bernard utilizes major head and torso movement, and (at times) open gloved defensive movements to catch shots and then throw a lead counter cross to the head. rockin/trimble you guys need to just make up...especially before it escalates to the "Lets meet somewhere and fight, I'll pay for your bus/plane ticket" level... Good post. I get to look at proof of Hopkins defensive greatness every time I look at my sig.

Here's my current Top 5 list of Defensive Wizards..off the cuff 1. Toney 2. Wright 3. Hopkins 4. Mayweather 5. Byrd (unless he's fighting Wladimir :D)

I'll be quite honest with you....that's pretty correct. Because I don't consider using your legs a legitimate form of defense. But to take it even further...I think Winky is the best I've seen. Because not only does he not use his legs....he doesn't shy away from punches. He catches all of them on his arms and gloves. Yup. Great post. Toney and Wright both get my vote.

yeah lol ...i was gonna say that

ALI for sure... "Your hands can't catch what your eyes can't see..."

i mean i was out of line ...i was out of line but that was last time i droped shit right? i've been talking straight boxing not bothering anybody and i have this dude giving me trouble its bullshit because people like him should be banned but never are

woa woa guys ...i was posting on defensive wizards he came in looking to start shit please dont blame me for his shit i took fault last time i aint doing it agian this time

seriously, go to your respective naughty corners kiddies...

Both of you need to go to sleep

yeah you do that bitch

shit, I have video pf James Toney carrying my spit bucket for me. I only pick on what you are, you pick on what you wish I was. Its all cool, I'll let it go. Cant expect me to not throw a cheap shot or two at you after all of the stuff that you said to me and continue to say to me now can you? I still think that the ID thing is the classic defense. Rockin' :boxing: , "you pick on what you wish I was" ok dude....whos on here starting shit with who at 130 am? yeah ok loser just go back to reading boxrec and watch espn classics ...maybe one of these days you'll know a thimble of what i know about boxing

Before Michael Nunn knocked him out. Sumbu Kalambay defense was very good. Just look at his fights against Mike McCallum, Iran Barkley and Herol Graham. He out boxed all three.

keep talkin JR ...keep talkin your in your 30s right? so i can understand why you'd go out...buy a computer ...relive old fantasys about how you were gonna carry the top local club fighters spit bucket once to the ring for him its ok bro i understand...you had so many hopes and dreams but yet like everything else the 'man' took it all away... you keep talking about hitting retards your gonna get your kids taken from you

dude ...your a clever and effective moron you run your mouth ...get all your friends to join you and hide behind your moniter braggin about fights that nobodys ever seen talking about going places nobodys ever seen you at ...its ok though keep talking i know iw as right for droping it im not going there with your punk ass agian i appologized im a grown ass man and i'll be damned if im going down that road with a child agian fuck that! with a capitol F ...

you know ...get wise to this real fast man i appologized for acting a fool now the ball is in your court if you start acting a fool then its just gonna make people realize what i know for a fact then you'll just be the laughing stock of this site so it'd be wise to drop whatever anomosity you have at the door and keep it clean

your straight out of a comic book son ... let it go bitch

Roberto Duran...he was a devil on the inside. He took a lot of shots on his gloves, slipped punches, leaned with shots to take their steam off, etc... Montell Griffin was pretty elusive and defensively adept in his prime. yeah he was i totally forgot about griffin

Roberto Duran...he was a devil on the inside. He took a lot of shots on his gloves, slipped punches, leaned with shots to take their steam off, etc... Montell Griffin was pretty elusive and defensively adept in his prime.