Soon the idea of african american blacks dominating pro boxing will fade and it will be domianted by east europeons... :) .... boxing is popular in those dark /cold/ former communist countries and they back their favorites so soon, they will take over boxng in the USA. It started with Golota and now it is kiltscko and soon more.. :) :D ......... Where's Muhmmad Ali/Larry holmes when you need them? :rolleyes:
American pride is great; but it's more important that we have a dominant champion. The heavyweight division has been murkier than a Scottish bog for two years now and, personally, I'm sick of it. Wlad looked dominant the other night. Granted, it was against a feather-fisted smallish man; but right now I would pick Klitshko over Rahman, Valuev, and Liakhovich. A dominant champion is more important than anything else. Americans have held the reigns in the heavyweight division for 120 years or so, with only a handful of exceptions...no need to be greedy. Good night, anything's better than John Ruiz! Let a strong and dominant man be king, I care not where his birthland is, as long as he's king.
I doubt it will happen that fast, maybe in 10-20 years it will be more even. Asian + European fighters are already doing good. Pacquiao, Calzhage and Vitali+Wlad are probably the most known out of the bunch right now.
The thing about the weight classes is it is rare to see a European that is below 5'7, same with the Africans. They dont tend to have many competitors in lower divisions for genetic reasons.
And when you have like 20 divisions between the weight of 105 - 140 you will of course have less European / African champions. Of course I was eing sarcastic about the 20, the actual number is 10.
So no Europeans will never dominate Boxing.
I doubt it will happen that fast, maybe in 10-20 years it will be more even. Asian + European fighters are already doing good. Pacquiao, Calzhage and Vitali+Wlad are probably the most known out of the bunch right now.
It really doesn't matter where a fighter comes from as long as he can perform well...it is all about great fighters fighting great fights.
For African American heavyweights, it may have to do something with the best big athletes are in the NFL. Boxing doesn't protect their clients like the NFL does, thus making it about "security" for the athlete.
lol dude its only heavyweights.... kostya was a Great 140 pounder but hes retired now and i dont see anyone in lower weight classes from eastern europe dominating like he did.
lets look at all the top boxers from all the weight classes :
Straweight :
Eagle Kwoya = Japenese
Ivan Calderon = Peurto Rican
Light flyweight :
Roberto Vasquez = Panamian
Hugo Cazares = Mexican
Flyweight :
Lorenzo Parra = Venezuela
Vic Darchinyan = armenian/Australian
Jorge Arce = Mexican
Omar Narvaez = Argentinian
Super Flyweight :
Martin Castillo = Mexican
Jose navarro = American
Masamori Tokuyama = Japenese
Alex munoz = Venezuela
Bantamweight :
Rafael Marquez : Mexican
Silence mabuza = South african
Jhonny gonzalez = Mexican
Wladimir Sidorenko(keeps gettin Gift DEcs and only fights in germany but i will still count him as a top bantamweight) = Ukraine
Super bantamweight :
Israel Vasquez : Mexican
Oscar Larios(soon to move up to 130) = Mexican
Featherweight :
Juan manuel Marquez = Mexican
Chris john(got a Gift dec but still good enuff featherweight ) = Indonesian
Valdemir Pereira = Brazil
Scott harrison = British
Super feather :
Manny pacquaio = Philippine
Marco Antonio Barrera = Mexican
Jorge Rodrigo Barrios = Argentinian
Erik Morales = Mexican
Lightweigt :
Juan Diaz = American
Jose luis castillo = Mexican
Diego Corrales = AMerican
popo Freitas = Brazilian
Zahir raheem = American
Jesus Chavez = Mexican
Junior Welterweight :
Ricky Hatton = British
Miguel Cotto = Peurto Rican
Welterweight :
Zab judah = american
Floyd mayweather = American
antonio Margarito = Mexican
Carlos Baldomir = Argentinian
Junior middleweight :
Oscar de la hoya = american
Ricardo mayorga = Nicaragua
Shane mosely = american
Kassim ouma = Ugandan
Roman Karmazin = Russian
Middleweight :
Winky wright = American
Jermain taylor = American
Bernard hopkins = American
Super middleweight =
Joe Calzaghe = British
Jeff lacy = American
Beyer = German
Light heavyweight :
Tarver = American
Glen johnson = Barbados
Cruiser :
Jean marc mormec = French
O neil bell = Jamaican/American
Vassiliy Jirov = Kazakhstani
Heavyweight =
Wlad Klitschko = Ukraine
Lamon brewster = American
Hasim rahman = American
Serguei Lyakhovich = Belarus
Now tell me how many Eastern europeans are in this list . only 4(5 if u count jirov but kazakhastan is in central asia not eeastern europe). (and remember i was being generous to include Wladimir Sidorenko). yeah if this is what you call domination then may god help you :D
and p.s dont even ask me why i didnt include Valuev in this list :D
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To some racist pricks it does matter
Im sure hes probley Eastern European himself, dont be soon to jump to conclusions. Besides Who was rooting for Tommy Morrison (American) vs. Lennox Lewis (British)?
Not African Americans, no one... Why? Most likely because of his skin color, all of this was before his controvercy with Aids. I cant think of another reason why Americans would root for the Brit.
There are racist pricks on every side...
PS. GOLOATA!!!! HAHAHA he is a joke.