I mean seriously. Everytime I see a video of him hitting the pads, most recently latest vids on Boxingscene, I think, wtf? First off, Roger is like nearly hitting back at Floyd with the pads rather than letting floyd target them. Then, he's barely extending his arms, moving maybe 3 inches from a fixed spot with each arm. Anyone else think this is uneffective and just bizarre when you watch it? I dunno if he does it any other way when cameras are off, though it's just a strange way if you ask me. :confused:
Well heres my take on this, maybe i'll be saying the same things other have already said.
First its impressive for what its ment for conditioning, and practicing combos, eye cordination, and foot work but Pacmans hitting the mitts is more impressive. And I belive that NO FIGHTER shows everything off in front of the camera, though maybe on rare occasions. Some fighter wont show all their stuff because a fighter can learn from another just by studying his technique.
Second anybody can do what Floyd is doing. Its takes practice off course. But its all in the practice. I've been to part of gyms were boxers and trainers are just as impressive as Floyd or Pacman at hitting the pads. All you have to do is hit your local gym, pay attention to the fighter who has been their the longest and is dedicated and look how he and the coach work-out. Its intense and it and amazing sight to see some of these amatures train.
Last gym I was part of one trainer had his fighter shadow box blind folded. Which was a descusion in the nutrition section awile back but forgot to mention this.
Theirs a lot of training techniques that trainer and fighter do and may make up a routine as they go along, I know one of my coach always was teching me new boxing techniques. If you're a fighter you CAN NOT LIMIT YOURSELF TO THE SIMPLY BASES OF BOXING, limiting yourself to one training form can hender you, learn all forms of style - be able to adapt to your opponet to be effective.
I remember a few days before one of my boxing matchs, my trainer told me to get in boxing stance then put my guard up. He then started to hold me then he said to get one hand free and punch with that hand. As it turned out in my boxing match, my opponet would hold me as soon as I landed or started an offensive attack and I got one hand free and started punching away. If you were to see this you may think it is odd. But these thing are done for a reason. If anything it helps a fighter if he is in that position in a fight.
Floyd who punchs the mitts slow. When he is tired, though his punchs won't have the same power on them he will remember/automaticly to throw punchs at his opponets even if he is tired because he has practiced so much throwing soft punchs that he will throw them automaticly.... to the judges they will look like those punchs are thrown effective.
I remember hearing Roy Jones Jr. say "i can't give you all my secrets..." when he was being filmed on how he would fight the fighter that is in the main event of hbo. So Roy showed some of his moves but he was quick not to give too much info out about his style.
And that how Floyd is in my opinion or any fighter. They will only show so much of their training secrets.
If anything it makes his trainer look faster and more impressive than him. I guess there is something to the fact that he has to react fast to the pads but padwork should be about focus and accuracy with proper technique. I'm sure Mayweather hits the pads in the traditional fashion off camera.
no that's how floyd hits the pads, they are meant for accuracy, speed, rhythm and timing. there is no advantage to the traditional fashion of padwork. he's doing traditional padwork really fast, with tons of blocks (even with his shoulders). hitting a moving pad is harder than hitting a stationary pad. pads are not meant for power. doesnt matter if swatting at his punches with the mitts makes it sound louder or appear like he's punching harder, that's irrelevant. what makes you guys think you know better than the p4p best boxer in the world that has highly regarded technique? everyones saying he should slow down, he shouldnt jump rope so fast, he shouldnt hit the pads so fast.. are you kidding me? :confused:
I agree with you that it isn't just for show. But the rest of your post is complete and utter BULLSHIT.
A (decent) trainer would never move pads to make his fighter miss. That is the dumbest shit ever.
I don't know a boxer who hasn't hurt their elbow by over extending.
The best reason to move the pads in is to prevent injury to the fighter.
Making your fighter miss, will just cause him to throw his arms out and then not be able to train with any intensity for a really long time.
I think Floyd's trainer is doing a great job. If Floyd is going to do some power work it shouldn't come from the mitts anyway.
no. the point isn't to make the fighter miss. it's to have the mitt out of reach. this forces them to keep balanced and use their footwork, just as the original poster said. if they dont reposition, they will be leaning, landing weakly, and in turn will be corrected by the trainer
If anything it makes his trainer look faster and more impressive than him. I guess there is something to the fact that he has to react fast to the pads but padwork should be about focus and accuracy with proper technique. I'm sure Mayweather hits the pads in the traditional fashion off camera.
do you mean this?
I meant it until I got a better explanation. I never really thought about working on the speed that way. I guess it does help many things. I'm so used to watching and doing the power hitting on the mitts. I've never seen that before so it was odd to me, if that's ok with you guys. :rolleyes: :boxing:
I dont know if it helps or if its just for show all I know is that he looks amazing in it. He also looks really fast doing it but then again he also looks really fast against other fighers to, so I would guess it must not be easy to duplicate that stuff on the mitts or that would mean that it would also be easy to duplicate his quickness in the ring and brother that speed is copy right protected, no copies allowed.
IT's not for show and aint that easy. Most trainers do it anyways if their fighter can do it.
1)It trains the reflexes
2)helps on focusing on target and remembering the sets
3)requires and improves coordination
4)helps build snap into punches by pushing down
5)helps cardio and stamina. do that for 15 mins and you will be gassed or arms get tired.
My trainer did the common 1) one standing there and meeting the gloves
and BROCKTON style 2) just leaving mitts out. Similar to how MMA guys do it. Develops more power and accuracy. Really have to hit the gloves. Trainer even moves the gloves out to make you miss. If you are off balance and miss the glove, you'll trip and embrass yourself.
I agree with you that it isn't just for show. But the rest of your post is complete and utter BULLSHIT.
A (decent) trainer would never move pads to make his fighter miss. That is the dumbest shit ever.
I don't know a boxer who hasn't hurt their elbow by over extending.
The best reason to move the pads in is to prevent injury to the fighter.
Making your fighter miss, will just cause him to throw his arms out and then not be able to train with any intensity for a really long time.
I think Floyd's trainer is doing a great job. If Floyd is going to do some power work it shouldn't come from the mitts anyway.
do you mean this?
Yeah the most skilled fighter on earth must be doing these things for show. Sighs.
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I mean seriously. Everytime I see a video of him hitting the pads, most recently latest vids on Boxingscene, I think, wtf? First off, Roger is like nearly hitting back at Floyd with the pads rather than letting floyd target them. Then, he's barely extending his arms, moving maybe 3 inches from a fixed spot with each arm. Anyone else think this is uneffective and just bizarre when you watch it? I dunno if he does it any other way when cameras are off, though it's just a strange way if you ask me. :confused:
do you mean this?
IT's not for show and aint that easy. Most trainers do it anyways if their fighter can do it.
1)It trains the reflexes
2)helps on focusing on target and remembering the sets
3)requires and improves coordination
4)helps build snap into punches by pushing down
5)helps cardio and stamina. do that for 15 mins and you will be gassed or arms get tired.
My trainer did the common 1) one standing there and meeting the gloves
and BROCKTON style 2) just leaving mitts out. Similar to how MMA guys do it. Develops more power and accuracy. Really have to hit the gloves. Trainer even moves the gloves out to make you miss. If you are off balance and miss the glove, you'll trip and embrass yourself.
I really don't think that the Mayweathers have this special pad routine that they will do before fights whenever the cameras come into the dressing room.
haha.
That's my point...the prospect of that idea is ridiculous.
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It isn't just for show. It looks pretty spectacular, but I don't think it is for show, because they have obviously worked on it a lot. It works on his timing, rythm, and reflexes. It has some of the same type of effects that speedbag work has. People never actually extend their arms or through real punches during speed bag work, but it still has its effectiveness.
It definately isn't for show because before his fights he is always seen warming up like that in the dressing room. I really don't think that the Mayweathers have this special pad routine that they will do before fights whenever the cameras come into the dressing room.
Yeah I'm sure he's just doing it for show.....Pfff.
What about him jumping rope? is that for show too? because he jumps rope like a madman.
Why in the hell would he be doing that for show? lol.
There is absolutely no explaination for that, and that seems to be simply an integral part of his training.
i wanna see him continuing to jumprope like that for 6 minutes straight