He really has been fighting well lately, a ko over kilitscko and now a ko over golata, perhaps one more big victory and he might be on the cover of SI or some boxing magazines or perhaps en route to becoming a great figther.........
This, he could have had a big ass meal before the weigh in, I highly doubt he weighs more than the 165 he entered camp at. Mind games people.
You bump a 7 year old thread quoting somebody about Austin Trout?
WTF?!
How and why?
All time great! What you been smokin' on? I dont ever expect him to be in the HOF and if anyone was actually interested in his belt (Brock for example) he would get beat! Hes only got Wlad that is any good on his record but we all know about that wobbly chin of his!
If Brewster beats Liakhovich and then goes on to beat all the others in parenthesis that you listed, I would have to do a complete 180 degree turn about Brewster and call him an all time great. In fact, if he just beats Liakhovich and then 3 other top-ranked heavyweights without suffering a loss I would be forced to put him easily in the top 30, and maybe the top 20 depending on how good he performs. I would surely rank him ahead of Jersey Joe Walcott for example, who really only had a couple of big wins in his whole career to go along with many losses.
Chuvalo was little more than a decent opponent for other world class heavyweights, and I can really only speak in glowing terms about him within the context of Canadian fighters.
I agree that we are in a serious dry spell as far as genuine talent is concerned within the heavyweight division, but most of the guys in the top 20 are roughly on a par with Joe Louis' or Larry Holmes' opponents during their reigns.
Good post, very interesting points.
Andrew Golota has been washed up for a few years so Brewster's ko of Golota didn't really mean much.
You are certainly right with the first part. But I have to disagree with your second statement. In comparison it means much.
Byrd DRAW Golota
Ruiz UD Golota, but was floored in the second round.
Brewster TKO1 Golota, three knockdowns in 53 seconds.
I know styles makes fights, but Lamon definately was special that night.
you're being hard on the guy
Maybe if he has an awesome career and remains undefeated against top opposition (beats Rahman, Wladimir, Toney, Sam Peter, Ibragimov) he will reach the level of say a George Chuvalo.
No chance at all of him ever becoming a top thirty heavyweight of all time though. For that to happen, there would have to at least be one other great heavyweight around for him to fight.
If Brewster beats Liakhovich and then goes on to beat all the others in parenthesis that you listed, I would have to do a complete 180 degree turn about Brewster and call him an all time great. In fact, if he just beats Liakhovich and then 3 other top-ranked heavyweights without suffering a loss I would be forced to put him easily in the top 30, and maybe the top 20 depending on how good he performs. I would surely rank him ahead of Jersey Joe Walcott for example, who really only had a couple of big wins in his whole career to go along with many losses.
Chuvalo was little more than a decent opponent for other world class heavyweights, and I can really only speak in glowing terms about him within the context of Canadian fighters.
I agree that we are in a serious dry spell as far as genuine talent is concerned within the heavyweight division, but most of the guys in the top 20 are roughly on a par with Joe Louis' or Larry Holmes' opponents during their reigns.
I hope so but I doubt it
He really has been fighting well lately, a ko over kilitscko and now a ko over golata, perhaps one more big victory and he might be on the cover of SI or some boxing magazines or perhaps en route to becoming a great figther.........
If you look only at Brewster's career since his loss to Charles Shufford in Oct. 2000 it looks like he's a great fighter. However, he was less than impressive against Kali Meehan in Sept. 2004, just 5 months after he knocked out Wladimir Klitschko (Wladdy). Andrew Golota has been washed up for a few years so Brewster's ko of Golota didn't really mean much. His late stoppage of Luan Krasniqi was impressive though. I saw that fight and concluded that Brewster is the best and most complete of today's heavyweights, none of whom threaten to make anyone's top 20 heavyweights of all time though. If Brewster had Wladdy's outside boxing skills or his disciplined conditioning regimen he would be a truly great fighter. He's not coming into the fight with Liakhovich in top shape according to the photos I've seen, which spells bad news for Lamon. I've never seen Liakhovich fight so I can't make any predictions. I intend to watch the fight on Saturday. I'm looking forward to it!
I don't think it's that easy because Lamon Brewster is no head hunter at all. Actually he is a great body puncher. If he manages to improve his defense, he will be sort of unstoppable these days, in my view.
i wish he would would fight sam peter
someone who as chin and decent skill should take a comfortable ud ova brewsta
I don't think it's that easy because Lamon Brewster is no head hunter at all. Actually he is a great body puncher. If he manages to improve his defense, he will be sort of unstoppable these days, in my view.
maybe so, but where the heck is that guy? i don't know if there is anybody in the division right now that fits that criteria. that's the problem.
yep dat is da biggest problem at da moment in da hw division
if he gets to fight the other top guys, i think he has the potential to be considered a great fighter. with mcgirt training him he can be a monster. i think he beats anybody in the division right now
someone who as chin and decent skill should take a comfortable ud ova brewsta
He really has been fighting well lately, a ko over kilitscko and now a ko over golata, perhaps one more big victory and he might be on the cover of SI or some boxing magazines or perhaps en route to becoming a great figther.........
Wot is you bangin' on about?
I seriously doubt he will be considered a great hw at the end of his career but he does have a chance to be considered one of the best of his era.He is now being trained by Buddy Mcgirt which may help him with his boxing skills so he doesn't have to win every fight with a come from behind ko.Brewster KO 6 Serguei Lyakhovich.Go Brewster!!!!!
I'm not sure he will be great. I do know he is a nice change of pace in the division. A nice guy, a humble guy and oh yeah KO power doesn't hurt. He seems to fly under the radar screen and thats ok. I think he is the best heavyweight out there. With a combonation of power,heart and chin, he will be a fan favorite soon. He needs to get a big fight and I think that will happen after Wlad beats Byrd.
Brewster beats Wlad to unify then defends against Peter...how sweet will those fights be?
His destiny lies in his own hands, he needs to keep on winning and impresively at that.
you've never been so right, his destiny is in his own hands and he has chosen to defend his title against a guy who is not even in the recognized top ten and i think hes rated 10th by the WBO which doesent rank half the good guys anyhow.
somehow i dont think that if wladmir klitschko had won the title from lamon brewster that night that he would have made his defenses against such bullshit opposition
he has some ugly losses on his record. yeah he was green but ultimtely when it comes down to separating good and great you have to look at a fighters entire body of work. losing to shufford and entienne and probably losing once or twice in the future to not so great fighters doesent make for the best resume. imagine if ali had lost to zora foley and jurgen blinn who were probably much better than either shufford or entienne.
he'll never be a great fighter skill wise per se, he is limited on obvious areas.
plus the biggest win of his entire career is and probably always will be wladamir klitschko who is not a great fighter, and hed probably get his ass kicked by him in a rematch which would make his biggest win not so big.
I know what you mean, the qality of possible opposition is not overhelming really. Many boxing fans judge a boxer's spot on all-time-great lists based on who they have beat. That is unfair. It shouldn't be about who beat who, it is about who could/would beat who. What if Muhammad Ali was around? Couldn't he be considered great due to this era's opposition?
This is the biggest understatement of the week. The possibly opposition is PITIFUL. Absolutely horrendous. IMO this is the worst and weakest division of all time. The early 1930's look like a golden era in comparison with Max Baer, Jack Sharkey, Paulino Uzcudun, Tommy Loughran, Max Schmeling etc. The skill level was much higher at the time and Primo Carnera, considered a disgrace in his era, would be one of the more technically proficient heavyweights if he fought today.
Even the early 80's full of drug abusing underachievers, had so much talent on today's fighters it isn't funny.
The premiere "stars" of the division (Wladimir, Toney, Brewster) are such flawed fighters that it's humour to call them stars. Toney is the closest thing to a passable contender we have who has the skill, durability, and stamina to hang with guys from past eras, but is so old and out of shape that I'm not sure if he can come back. Wladimir has a terrible chin that would be easily exploited by most top ten contenders from any era. He's my favorite active heavyweight but even a comparatively tiny Ezzard CHarles would brutalize him.
Brewster himself is easy as hell to outbox and is inconsistent in his performances. He has a tough chin, heart, and a good punch but that definition matches so many guys who were top ten or twenty in their own era that he hardly stands out.
The heavyweights are the pits today and it's been like this since Lewis retired. If anything, it's gone downhill since Vitali left as he seemed to be the only big man who had the heart, chin, and workrate to rule over the others.
The saddest thing is, I don't see anyone in sight to clean it up. Samuel Peter is an entertaining contender but his stamina and plodding footwork will be his downfall. If you have slow feet you'd better have quick hands and he doesn't. I think Peter has a chance of gaining a few belts but he's always in danger of being outboxed and outlasted with his endurance being what it is.
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