How did you score theRahman-Toney fight?

Rahman clearly won the fight.The problem was that he didn't win a lot of rounds big even though he won them and it gave the judges a chance to give them to Toney.I had it 118-111 Rahman which may have been a bit generous to Rock but he was outworking Toney throughout.

Too boring to score.

On the same token, shouldn't the fighters respect the ring and come in shape for a heavyweight title fight? You're 100% correct. This is exactly what I've been saying about Toney all along.

I thought Rahman pulled out a close decision, but I also think this fight is unworthy of very much discussion. A gross underachiever against a grossly out of shape fat man. Pathetic that these two might be the best. I hear alot of people saying Boxers deserve automatic respect for stepping into the ring(which I agree they deserve respect) On the same token, shouldn't the fighters respect the ring and come in shape for a heavyweight title fight? I love Toney and understand he is HOF, but 237 was way out of line imo. Rahman should have made this a clear cut victory, but he refused to stay outside. He fought Toney's fight. As for Blubber, if he was in any type of shape, he would have beaten Rahman easy. oh well we'll try again to find the "next one"..maybe WK or Brewster can come up big

Compubox never seems to get it right in my opinion. Even CompuBox's founder, Bob Canobbio, admits that there's a "margin of error" with that system and has "never said it was the be-all, end-all" to counting the exact number of punches thrown & landed. I find it funny at times how people quote those numbers like they were registered by some kind if exact science, but people have to understand that the two people punching the keyboard are sharing the same computer (each operator is assigned one fighter or another), as well as only getting that one vantage point from it's location. It's just a tool to give us fans a general ballpark figure of the punches landed & missed, and although interesting in it's way, it shouldn't be taken as factual information.

OK Jim! 7 rounds to 5 115 to 113 in favor of Rahman Jim!

I was rooting for Toney, sort of, because of his skill level, but his conditioning was so bad that I couldn't root for him wholeheartedly. :( I thought that Rahman won 6 or 7 rounds, Toney maybe 2 rounds with the other 3 or 4 rounds even. Rahman threw a lot more and I thought that he landed more than compubox gave him. He was the aggressor most of the time and didn't do much clinching, only a little more than Toney. A lot of his punches landed on Toney's arms, shoulders, sides, etc. Rahman landed few clean punches other than jabs, and that's why 2 of the judges didn't see him winning most of the rounds. It was a disappointing fight and will be remembered as a championship fight in an era with no really good heavyweights around. :( Compubox never seems to get it right in my opinion. Who else counts kidney shots while in a clinch as a counted punch?

01. Round: 10-09 Rahman 02. Round: 10-09 Toney 03. Round: 10-09 Toney 04. Round: 10-09 Rahman 05. Round: 10-09 Rahman 06. Round: 10-09 Rahman 07. Round: 10-09 Toney 08. Round: 10-09 Toney 09. Round: 10-09 Rahman 10. Round: 10-09 Rahman 11. Round: 10-09 Rahman 12. Round: 10-09 Rahman Total: 116-112 Rahman

Rahman by a comfortable margin I was rooting for Toney, sort of, because of his skill level, but his conditioning was so bad that I couldn't root for him wholeheartedly. :( I thought that Rahman won 6 or 7 rounds, Toney maybe 2 rounds with the other 3 or 4 rounds even. Rahman threw a lot more and I thought that he landed more than compubox gave him. He was the aggressor most of the time and didn't do much clinching, only a little more than Toney. A lot of his punches landed on Toney's arms, shoulders, sides, etc. Rahman landed few clean punches other than jabs, and that's why 2 of the judges didn't see him winning most of the rounds. It was a disappointing fight and will be remembered as a championship fight in an era with no really good heavyweights around. :(

I agree with what you said. Don't you think that this looked a lot like the Taylor/Hopkins fights? No, Taylor struggled against the awkward Hop style and Hop was a match for Taylor's strength and kept setting traps. Rahman never struggled. He landed more punches than credited for, kept punching Toney into the ropes, made him miss and look like a clubfighter, and easily matched or exceeded Toney's inside work where he also roughed him up. Tony looked like Tony Galento in there, except Galento was a geniune KO threat. Toney can't bust his way out of his KFC bucket to save his life.

I can't see how anyone would score it for Toney or a draw. Rahman was clearly the busier fighter. He hit Toney with some good rights and worked him all the way to the end. Rahman is no champion though he was defending Toney and making excuses on why Toney didn't win, that was a joke. That's one thing I don't get on how judges score fights. Especially when Toney fights. In the Jirov fight, Jirov was outworking him in the beginning but by the scorecards you would think it was a complete shutout. I agree with what you said. Don't you think that this looked a lot like the Taylor/Hopkins fights?

I can't see how anyone would score it for Toney or a draw. Rahman was clearly the busier fighter. He hit Toney with some good rights and worked him all the way to the end. Rahman is no champion though he was defending Toney and making excuses on why Toney didn't win, that was a joke. That's one thing I don't get on how judges score fights. Especially when Toney fights. In the Jirov fight, Jirov was outworking him in the beginning but by the scorecards you would think it was a complete shutout.

I was disappointed in this fight. Nothing spectacular. Rahman either knows how to take a hit, or tony hits like a bitch... he did eat some right hooks. To be honest i wanted to see tony win, but he was dumb and didnt do anything but spar and eat pizza rolls before this fight.

I think it was Rahman winning by a slim margin, but i can very easily see how it was scored a draw or if someone feels Toney won.

toney won the boxing match barely ...toney was LURING rahman to the ropes the entire fight which made it look like rahman was backing him up..rahman edged out the fight with his strength and weight and conditioning so a draw was a good call..hbo is the most biased broadcast I've ever seen..it was obvious they didn't want toney to win..

How did I score it? Flyyygrrrl filled her shorts and was DQed and Boozo passed out for the drunk count!

I scored it for Rahman but it might have just been that I was hoping he would win. Some of the rounds were close. 115-113

rahman didnt win any of the middle rounds i have no idea how hbo had rahman winning those rounds, when he was getting hit by everything that toney threw.

I was surprised that the HBO guys gave a couple of the closer rounds to Rahman. I had it 114-114. Rahman worked harder, but Toney landed more effective shots, and at a much higher percentage. I think it could've gone either way, because most of the rounds were hard to judge. I did have it as a draw, though. i had it 114-114 also but two of the round i gave to toney were rounds i considered scoring even. i agree with the draw but if anything else it shouldve gone to rock by a point or two. it looked early like toney was gonna be able to wear him down but it became clear around the 6th that toney dint have a punch to stop rahman. rahman clearly didnt like being countered so much late in the fight, i think thats why he wanted to keep it close with james so much, toney was using the distance pretty well and cathcing rahman coming in witht he left lead. once they got close toney didnt have as many wide open opprutunities. and i think rahman was satisfied with trading 2 punches for 3 on the ropes just cause he knew he could take it.

if he would just run every other day he could have the stamina for theese super heavies which is crazy..he could still eat just run ,not even every day every other true he just needs to lose some weight, and toney's stamina really didn't look that bad considering the shape that he was in.