I am new to boxing and I have seen Oscar fight once. He fought against Vargas and it was a spectacular performance. He just boxed him good. But I still don't understand how people can be so positive toward his boxing career. They say things like "Oscar De La Hoya carried this sport" and different stuff like that. The reason I have speculation, is because according to his resume, quite a few big name boxers seems to have beat him.
Bernard Hopkins
Shane Mosley x 2
Felix Trinidad
Although Oscar has beat Strum, Vargas, Gatti, and Julio Cesar Chavez most of these are boxers that just don't have that strong of a hold on being the greatest in the boxing world like Mosley, Trinidad, and Hopkins. I think Oscar is a good boxer and has accomplished a lot, but I just think he is way overrated. Please discuss your opinions.
I am new to boxing and I have seen Oscar fight once. He fought against Vargas and it was a spectacular performance. He just boxed him good. But I still don't understand how people can be so positive toward his boxing career. They say things like "Oscar De La Hoya carried this sport" and different stuff like that. The reason I have speculation, is because according to his resume, quite a few big name boxers seems to have beat him.
Bernard Hopkins
Shane Mosley x 2
Felix Trinidad
Although Oscar has beat Strum, Vargas, Gatti, and Julio Cesar Chavez most of these are boxers that just don't have that strong of a hold on being the greatest in the boxing world like Mosley, Trinidad, and Hopkins. I think Oscar is a good boxer and has accomplished a lot, but I just think he is way overrated. Please discuss your opinions.
Are you a girl? :luvbed:
I am new to boxing and I have seen Oscar fight once. He fought against Vargas and it was a spectacular performance. He just boxed him good. But I still don't understand how people can be so positive toward his boxing career. They say things like "Oscar De La Hoya carried this sport" and different stuff like that. The reason I have speculation, is because according to his resume, quite a few big name boxers seems to have beat him.
Bernard Hopkins
Shane Mosley x 2
Felix Trinidad
Although Oscar has beat Strum, Vargas, Gatti, and Julio Cesar Chavez most of these are boxers that just don't have that strong of a hold on being the greatest in the boxing world like Mosley, Trinidad, and Hopkins. I think Oscar is a good boxer and has accomplished a lot, but I just think he is way overrated. Please discuss your opinions.
what about whitaker, quartey, camacho,and chavez
I don't hate Oscar, I also thinks he's cutest boxer ever. Those were 4 legitimate reasons, that was no hate in that post.
lol, so we agree he is a stud what do you think of him as a boxer besides the fact you think he faught an over the hill jcc. dont know if many people know this but by his 3rd pro fight he was already calling chavez out
#1 Reason, he beat an over the hill Chavez.
#2 Reason, girls thinks he's sexy, I don't know what they see in him.
#3 Reason, he recorded a song from Beegees
#4 Reason, many homosexuals thinks he's cute, because he can shake his ass just like ricky martin with his musical career.
Oscar is the richest boxer of all time, only Tyson made a little more money in his career, but Tyson lost all of his money, because he's stupidest man alive.
gee good to know you dont have hate twords him. its people like you that many other fans will never give de la hoya the respect he deserves hes a great fighter no one can take that from him
Thanks for the post.
Hi Mishra,
When you have been exposed to the boxing world for a long time, you will understand how important De La Hoya has been to the sport, and how he will continue to be important to it after he retires.
First of all, he was an Olympic gold medallist in the 1992 Barcelona Olympics.
He turned professional and became the first and only fighter to make a million dollars for a four round fight.
He appeals to both the Latin boxing market and the American fans.
He attracts a significant female viewership because of his looks and clean cut image.
He is consistently well-marketed and has been his whole career.
He consistently sought out the best possible opposition and though he was beaten by a few fighters, only against Hopkins was he stopped, and that was at a weight class thirty pounds higher than the weight class in which he turned professional.
I don't count the Sturm win as a title win, but if you overlook that, De La Hoya has won world championships in six weight classes.
He is the highest paid non-heavyweight fighter of all time.
He is building an empire with Golden Boy that is becoming a serious force in boxing promotions, unlike other fighters such as Lennox Lewis and Roy Jones who have begun promotion companies as a means of wresting financial control from their old promoters.
Finally, he's been criticized for some performances and choices, but De La Hoya can really fight.
He controlled Trinidad but took the last few rounds and coasted them and the judges went with Trinidad's aggression in the decision.
He legitimately lost to Mosley the first time in a hell of a fight, but he beat Mosley the second time, but just did not get the decision.
By the way, being that you're new to the game, I'd advise you to reconsider stating anything more to the tune that Julio Cesar Chavez does not have a hold on greatness in boxing. Chavez is now and forever known as the greatest Mexican fighter of all time.
Hope this helped out a bit.
mishra100 we can tell you new in boxing when u say this : Although Oscar has beat Strum, Vargas, Gatti, and Julio Cesar Chavez most of these are boxers that just don't have that strong of a hold on being the greatest in the boxing world like Mosley, Trinidad, and Hopkins.
WTF you think Julio Cesar Chavez isnt in the boxing greatest???
I put "MOST of these are boxers..." on purpose.
I think its funny how u think ODH is overated when u saw him fight ONE time and are new to the sport.
Thus is the reason why I asked for everyones opinion on Oscar. I can have an opinion but change it if I hear reasoning to change. I'm not biased like most online people you see.
That's cool Diego, thanks.
Corrales is a great fighter; he had to be to to be able to stand with Castillo like that in the first fight. Castillo doesn't care about all the mess to do with the press conferences and shit talking; he's just a badass that does his thing; it's just business. Corrales can make a lot of money in the game, man, he is a draw and will make money fighting even the likes of Juan Diaz who is not making anything right now. You're right, though about the 140-pound limit being the one for Castillo; he's been pushing himself to make lightweight for too long. Sometimes I think it's essential, even if it is hard, for a guy to struggle for a weight, because it keeps them mean and disciplined all the way to the fight, but in Castillo's case, it's only going to hinder him. Whether people like him or not, you have to say that you get your money's worth when he fights against the top guys.
Absolutely... he's an unbelievable slugger, and I look forward to him stepping up and handlin' business. He's very entertaining, with the exception of the Reyes fight. I don't blame him for fighting the way he did, though. He had little to gain, and it was a nice workout. He'll fight anybody, anywhere, anytime, and give them way more than they've bargained for. I'm really looking forward to Corrales-Castillo III, but even as a die-hard Chico fan, I really don't know if he can pull it off. Even if Diego loses, he will hold his head high, as he should. I look forward to Jose Luis moving up, because I think Chico can stay at 135 for a while, and dominate the division.
Hi Mishra,
When you have been exposed to the boxing world for a long time, you will understand how important De La Hoya has been to the sport, and how he will continue to be important to it after he retires.
First of all, he was an Olympic gold medallist in the 1992 Barcelona Olympics.
He turned professional and became the first and only fighter to make a million dollars for a four round fight.
He appeals to both the Latin boxing market and the American fans.
He attracts a significant female viewership because of his looks and clean cut image.
He is consistently well-marketed and has been his whole career.
He consistently sought out the best possible opposition and though he was beaten by a few fighters, only against Hopkins was he stopped, and that was at a weight class thirty pounds higher than the weight class in which he turned professional.
I don't count the Sturm win as a title win, but if you overlook that, De La Hoya has won world championships in six weight classes.
He is the highest paid non-heavyweight fighter of all time.
He is building an empire with Golden Boy that is becoming a serious force in boxing promotions, unlike other fighters such as Lennox Lewis and Roy Jones who have begun promotion companies as a means of wresting financial control from their old promoters.
Finally, he's been criticized for some performances and choices, but De La Hoya can really fight.
He controlled Trinidad but took the last few rounds and coasted them and the judges went with Trinidad's aggression in the decision.
He legitimately lost to Mosley the first time in a hell of a fight, but he beat Mosley the second time, but just did not get the decision.
By the way, being that you're new to the game, I'd advise you to reconsider stating anything more to the tune that Julio Cesar Chavez does not have a hold on greatness in boxing. Chavez is now and forever known as the greatest Mexican fighter of all time.
Hope this helped out a bit.
That was a helluva post, and I sent you some k, even if you are a Castillo fan. I say that jokingly, as a Corrales fan. Actually, I find myself becoming more of a Castillo fan as time goes on. He handles himself with class, shows much respect to Diego, and is a true warrior. With the exception of the end of the trilogy, in which I fear Castillo will take the rubber match, I wish Jose Luis nothing but success. I can't wait to see him jump to 140 (where he needs to be anyway) to take on Cotto, Hatton, or whoever else has the guts to step in there with one of the toughest SOB's I've ever seen.
Hi Mishra,
When you have been exposed to the boxing world for a long time, you will understand how important De La Hoya has been to the sport, and how he will continue to be important to it after he retires.
First of all, he was an Olympic gold medallist in the 1992 Barcelona Olympics.
He turned professional and became the first and only fighter to make a million dollars for a four round fight.
He appeals to both the Latin boxing market and the American fans.
He attracts a significant female viewership because of his looks and clean cut image.
He is consistently well-marketed and has been his whole career.
He consistently sought out the best possible opposition and though he was beaten by a few fighters, only against Hopkins was he stopped, and that was at a weight class thirty pounds higher than the weight class in which he turned professional.
I don't count the Sturm win as a title win, but if you overlook that, De La Hoya has won world championships in six weight classes.
He is the highest paid non-heavyweight fighter of all time.
He is building an empire with Golden Boy that is becoming a serious force in boxing promotions, unlike other fighters such as Lennox Lewis and Roy Jones who have begun promotion companies as a means of wresting financial control from their old promoters.
Finally, he's been criticized for some performances and choices, but De La Hoya can really fight.
He controlled Trinidad but took the last few rounds and coasted them and the judges went with Trinidad's aggression in the decision.
He legitimately lost to Mosley the first time in a hell of a fight, but he beat Mosley the second time, but just did not get the decision.
By the way, being that you're new to the game, I'd advise you to reconsider stating anything more to the tune that Julio Cesar Chavez does not have a hold on greatness in boxing. Chavez is now and forever known as the greatest Mexican fighter of all time.
Hope this helped out a bit.
Say no more,you pretty much cover everything!
De La Hoya is so popular because 2 major boxing fan groups identify with him and he brought with him another group like no one else had done before. So in a way he targets a much larger audience than others.
Those groups are:
casual Mexican boxing fans
casual American boxing fans
casual Women boxing fans (both Mexican and American)
Most popular fighters today get huge following from just ONE group. DLH markets to them all.
omg if you think Oscar lost to Quartey your a f***ng joke...Whitaker and Sturm, thats something else... but Quartey no.
It could be argued that Ike beat Oscar. To call someone a joke because they think that is a little much. It was a very close fight, and I think it was a fair decision, but Quartey could've easily gotten the decision, and I would've viewd that as a fair decision, as well.
I always believed karma played a role in his 2 fake loses to trinadad and mosley, for not giving ike quartey and pernell whitaker rematches.
I think that is one of the most logical statements I've heard in a while. Good shit... he should've given Sturm another shot as well. It sucks that he was robbed in the rematch with Mosley, even though I'm a bigger fan Of Shane's, and he should've gotten the nod against Trinidad. In the Trinidad fight he should've actually boxed the last four or five rounds, so I don't feel as sorry for him about that one. With some of the ludicrous robberies in the sport, he should've known better. But as far as why people like Oscar... he is a true sportsman, professional, and gentleman. He is not one of my favorite boxers, but I have tons of respect for him. He won gold for the U.S. in the Olympics, and I respect anyone that's achieved that for their country, not only Americans. When Oscar was in his prime, he fought the best guys in the sport, and always handled himself with class. Very few guys can say that they fought the best guys around, and did well.
Great fighter one of my all time favorites he was unstoppable for alot of years and I think he beat Trinidad although can't blame the judges based on his tactics the last few rounds and I also feel he beat Mosley the second time around.
but do you feel he beat Quartey, Whitaker, and Sturm?