I dont know why anyone would hate on gatti though granted hes not the best fighter but for what hes done for boxing. To the not so hardcore boxing fans they know Gatti and Tyson. Gatti may not be world class but he has done what many cant do and become a household name
ok, i could go through all of ur posts and expose u on every1, but ill decide to save time and just pick oneof ur many clueless posts
JM,
In all your illiteracy, you didn't say how "suprised" you were when I named Corrales who kept getting off the deck to pursue Floyd..and kept eating sharp counters. But was DETERMINED. Or round 10 of Castillo-Corrales 1 ...which speaks for itself.
Or when Morales had nothing left against Pac. Manny Steward commented in the THIRD round that Erik's legs looked weak. And EM gutted up and did his best and ended up getting knocked out. AGAINST A BUZZSAW.
Or Marquez who swallowed a ton of blood and got off the canvas three times in the first to earn (?) a draw.
Or Frazier who walked forward on a taller, quicker man to do his damage...eating punches the whole time.
Or Leonard who was getting beat and KNEW he needed a knockout (beyond today's twelve rounds). Dundee screaming to him in the corner: "you're blowing it , son!!".
THOSE ARE THE PERFORMANCES ETCHED IN MY HEART AND MIND. Not two average fighters who just CAN'T get out of each other's way.
Or when Gatti was getting blazed by a much smaller man and he stopped throwing punches and just cowered starting from round 2. And then quit on his stool.
JMC: You can't even write, how can you know anything about the sport? You write like my third grade goddaughter.
personally,i think that the gatti-ward trilogy is better than the fights so far of castilio-corales, but its all perspective. just like ALL of the other things you stated. have oyu ever seen the trilogy? And you said frazier just walked thro punches, thats all that gatti-ward was, it didn have to do with them not being able to get out of the way, it was the choice NOT to attempt it. it is no diffrent from ur statement on frazier...hypocricy? and dont get me wrong, all the things u said were very true, and those guys proved to b warriors, BUT "if he can name to guys with the heart and determination of gatti and ward id b suprised" as in 2, as in the 2 fighting, as in not one of the fighters. yea, gatti quit on his stool, hes not perfect, quite far from it, hes not even great, but who is perfect? and im sorry if my typing isnt sufficient for u. its the internet, im not going to irght with perfect grammer and spelling.
Er, wipe your chin.
Gatti vs Corrales in May at 140 or 142 catch. Where is your money going?
True: you can send a left hook via third class mail and it will hurt Diego.
This would be painful for me to watch: my favorite fighter (Corrales) vs. my #3 guy (Gatti). Corrales is the much better fighter with wins over Castillo, Casamayor, Freitas, Manfredy (who destroyed Gatti), Gainer, and a handful of other good fighters. Gatti is a warrior, but even at a catch weight, Diego would probably beat him by a wide margin. Their only common opponents as far as I can recall are Manfredy (see above), and Mayweather, to whom both lost badly. Corrales' resume speaks for itself, amd Arturo has no huge victories. Corrales is one the best 10 or 12 fighters in the world, while Gatti's in the lower half of the top 100, in my eyes.
Gatti has a GREAT chin. Diego doesn't.
Both can hit extremely hard.
Neither has a defense.
Sounds pretty similar to me.
deigo is a boxer puncher
gatti is a brawler
there is a distinct difference
1) Castillo and Corrales are BOTH FAR more skilled fighters than Gatti.
2) I smell a back-pedal...
Hah, that's all you could come up with from my whole post?
Castillo and Corrales' skill sets are better than they showed during that fight, but that's not what matters. I'm sure if you have Gatti and Ward show you all the jabs, short lefts, latteral movement, and general ring knowledge but that's not how they always fight. You named Castillo/Corrales as a high skilled fight... the fighters possessed the skills but didn't use them... therefore it wasn't a skilled fight. I smell retard.
i said he was a good fighter, not a great fighter.
I was making the point that he wasn't a journeyman, so you are wrong.
actully you were making the point that he was a good fighter. i disputed that he was a great fighter. i never once said he was a journeyman. get your facts straight
Corrales more skilled than Gatti? That's a close one.
1) Castillo and Corrales are BOTH FAR more skilled fighters than Gatti.
2) I smell a back-pedal...
It blows my mind the lack of respect that Gatti's getting in some circles. He, nor his fans, have said he's one of the best. We love him because he goes all out, and is a true warrior. he and Mickey Ward put on one of the best shows ever, 3 times at that, and showed casual fans why boxing is a great sport. They showed sportsmanship, respect for the sport, heart, and determination, and if you want to bash them for not being the most skilled fighters in the game, go right ahead.
Ruelas was actualy a superfeather champion
Gatti has some impressive defeats over some good fighters who have beaten some top notch fighters
not really
leijia is a joke and branco has fought absolutly no one and has an incredibly padded record.
tracy patterson??!?!
are you KIDDING me
gatti has lost seven times in his career, and every time he has stepped up, he has not only been beaten, he has been humiliated
a journey dosen't become champ...
Journeyman fighters have tonnes of losses in their records and are stepping stones for fighters coming up.
Gatti's Victorys:
Tracee Paterson: WBC batamweight champion and IBF champion
Gabriel Ruelas: WBC featherweight champion
Jesse James Leija: Former WBC superfeather champion
Gianluca Branco: good fighter with a sold record
Leonard Dorin: WBA Lightweight champion
Terron Millett: Former IBF Welterweight champion
Joey Gamache: Former WBA Superfeatherweight champion
Now, if you call that a journeyman's record.....you are just ignorant and have no clue what the term 'Journeyman' means
Ruelas was actualy a superfeather champion
Gatti has some impressive defeats over some good fighters who have beaten some top notch fighters
a journey dosen't become champ...
Journeyman fighters have tonnes of losses in their records and are stepping stones for fighters coming up.
Gatti's Victorys:
Tracee Paterson: WBC batamweight champion and IBF champion
Gabriel Ruelas: WBC featherweight champion
Jesse James Leija: Former WBC superfeather champion
Gianluca Branco: good fighter with a sold record
Leonard Dorin: WBA Lightweight champion
Terron Millett: Former IBF Welterweight champion
Joey Gamache: Former WBA Superfeatherweight champion
Now, if you call that a journeyman's record.....you are just ignorant and have no clue what the term 'Journeyman' means
you just totally proved yourself wrong
gatti hasnt beat any great fighters, so he shouldnt be considered a great fighter.
him in the hof is laughable
Barrera against Morales has ABSOLUTELY NO DEFENSE EITHER. By your logic you should be critical of their performances too.
AS I MENTIONED:
LaMotta-Robinson
BArrera-Morales
Ali-Frazier
Castillo-Corrales
etc.
All great fights ("heart, determination, excitement, intensity")contested at a high level with elite fighters. That automatically makes those fights a rung above PizzaBoy-Boozer.
Sorry, I'm just not a jock-sniffer for unskilled brawlers. But don't let me stop YOU. Have at it. How many of those fighters above are "slick"? Now how many are "skilled"? ALL of them. Learn the difference. Your cyber-insults give me a chuckle. I'm sure you relish your new role as the Don Rickles of the Internet.
This pompous dick is hoping to hear about Gatti's best victory before I die.
...and good day to YOU, sir... LOL
AS I MENTIONED:
Castillo-Corrales
This is laughable. Castillo/Corrales I was highly skilled? WHy is that? Because they both leaned back on occasion or put their hands up slightly higher to protect themselves while standing toe-to-toe slugging at eachother? If you're going to be a dick, at least try not to be a hypocritical one.
All great fights ("heart, determination, excitement, intensity")contested at a high level with elite fighters. That automatically makes those fights a rung above PizzaBoy-Boozer.
Also, I never claimed the Gatti/Ward trilogy is the greatest thing in boxing, so don't try to imply that I ever did. It was 3 excellent, enjoyable fights despite the skill level. I don't care how skilled a fighter is, or unskilled (well, there is a limit obviously, but not so low that Gatti/Ward don't fall into the category) I just want to see 2 evenly matched opponents prove who's the better man in the ring. I don't care if there are 2 world class opponents in the ring if one gets blown out of the water or is outboxed the entire time.
As for Gatti's best victory.... he has had many solid victories but no single fight defines what Gatti's best win would be. You could claim it was defeating an aged Leija. Gatti has spent most of his career struggling with good opponents and dominating most mediocre ones. His biggest fights have gone either way. Joe Frazier's biggest fights were against Ali and Foreman, and most of those didn't turn out so well. So would we discout Frazier as garbage if he had not beaten Ali once so his biggest win would no longer be as impressive? (and to save us both time, don't think this last sentence is an excuse for you to rant about comparing Frazier/Gatti, for I was merely doing it under basic circumstances)
You guys are rough on Gatti. I don't expect a chess match when I see Gatti. I expect a war.
For you downing him for not being as talented, I say DUH. We know this.
I've posted several times that I know his limitations, as do many other fans. But still like him and love to watch him fight??? SURE, you bet!
You guys are rough on Gatti. I don't expect a chess match when I see Gatti. I expect a war.
For you downing him for not being as talented, I say DUH. We know this.
NO NO NO. This is a PERFECT EXAMPLE OF SOMEONE WHO DOES KNOW BOXING.
Because as I was watching that fight, I was saying "Jeezusss, I can't believe neither of those palookas know how to slip or block a punch or ever learned a lick of defense".
That is someone who looks at boxing analytically with an appreciation for the skillset and technique required to be a good fighter... Eating a bunch of punches from a SLOW fighter isn't skill. IT'S LACK OF SKILL.
Britney Spears and Ashlee Simpson sell a bunch of records.
SFW??
BTW, the word is "HUGE". "HUGH" is the British guy who got the blowjob.
sigh....and once again, I dont give a damn what you think. Lol, thanks for the spelling tip (you have a serious hangup with typos huh?) because, regardless of what anyone else may say, proper grammer and spelling IS of major importance at any and all boxing websites. If correcting others spelling is something youre actually 'into' youre gonna be a very busy guy. Lame :rolleyes:
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