He needs to fight people that have beaten him or that can beat him. Not Peter (who has no name on his record). Not Castillo. Not Nicholson. Not Moli.
GEt it? He should try Rahman. Sanders (Sanders was always semi-retired.). TOS. BREWSTER.
Get it? Simple equation.
I CAN'T BRAKE IT DOWN ANY FURTHER.
youre so stupid you just made my point for me. you said that wlad is picking on smaller guys, my post clearly was pointing out the fact that byrd is picking on guys who he knows suck... thank you for agreeing with me i appreciate you coming to your senses.
which is worse????
A) fighting the best heavyweights in the world that just happen to be smaller than you?? peter, brewster, byrd
or
B) knowingly fighting sorry ass competition that doesent deserve a title shot so that you can retain your belt?? oquendo, golota, meehan, williamson....
also id like to point out that wlad klitschko and samuel peter weighed in at almost identical numbers for their fight. i think you should commend wlad for fighting somebody who was carrying all that dangerous weight.
man it feels good to be so right
There should be a weight limit to keep abnormally big fighters like Valuev out of the sport.
no kidding, hes a circus act, it was a sad day for the sport when he won the title.
Golota, Meehan, and Williams are either near his weight and height and or are never has beens (actually that goes for all). But with Wlad you have a person that's trying to get a belt against someone he already beat and the fight in his crooked ass adopted home country of Germany.
You are pathetic. Why aren't you demanding he fight Brewster again?
youre so stupid you just made my point for me. you said that wlad is picking on smaller guys, my post clearly was pointing out the fact that byrd is picking on guys who he knows suck... thank you for agreeing with me i appreciate you coming to your senses.
which is worse????
A) fighting the best heavyweights in the world that just happen to be smaller than you?? peter, brewster, byrd
or
B) knowingly fighting sorry ass competition that doesent deserve a title shot so that you can retain your belt?? oquendo, golota, meehan, williamson....
also id like to point out that wlad klitschko and samuel peter weighed in at almost identical numbers for their fight. i think you should commend wlad for fighting somebody who was carrying all that dangerous weight.
man it feels good to be so right
The Heavyweight division is by leaps and bounds the worst division in boxing. If you add a Super Heavyweight division, you're basically rewarding the worst in the sport with more belts. I think it's a very bad idea. With the exception of Lennox Lewis and the Klitschkos, the larger Heavyweights have not been as successful as the smaller or average size Heavyweights. Valuev is not, in my opinion, one of the better guys in the division. He won a decision against Ruiz, who is not a big Heavyweight, that, in my eyes, was somewhat of a gift. I don't like Ruiz, but I would've liked to have seen him lose the strap in a one-sided, non-controversial loss. The Heavyweight division would no longer be the worst division in boxing if they brought in a Super Heavy class, the SHW division would be. Let's focus on making the HW division decent again, not split it up and have two trash divisions instead of the one we already have.
Guys, listen. The only reason Bloodshed brought this up is because it's Klitschko and he has some deep-rooted issues with the guy. That's plainly obvious.
Where was this outrage when Byrd fought Golota? Or McCline at 270? LOL
For that matter, where was the outrage when Wlad had to fight McCline? Wlad is 240, McCline is 270. "OH BOY, WE NEED A NEW SUPER-SUPER HW DIVISION NOW! BECAUSE GUYS LIKE McCLINE ARE PICKING ON SMALLER HWs!!!!" That's about the same weight difference as Byrd-Klitschko.
This thread is not about the issue of smaller HWs fighting larger ones. It's simply about one fan's dislike for Klitschko. Simple.
I'm not going to go into bone structure again for this thread but I can promise you that a 220 pound heavyweight facing a man 30 pounds heavier (a lot of it fat) is nowhere near as dangerous as throwing a 120 pound fighter in with a middleweight. Most heavyweights weighing over 230 pounds or either out of shape or are overly muscular and it really doesn't help them much against smaller heavyweights fighting at their natural weight.
Guys like Valuev are difference because he has a huge skeleton and he's truly a natural 300 pounder. If the division was full of guys that size I'd say okay maybe you're on to something with the superheavyweight division, but the fact remains that most of those 240 pound guys (ie Rahman) would naturally weigh about 200-220 pounds but are bulked up with extra fat and muscle.
Let it stay as it is.
I know what these juys are trying to say. We dont need a supre heavyweight class, but we could end the crying by extending the Cruiser weights to a maximum of 219lbs.
Golota, Meehan, and Williams are either near his weight and height and or are never has beens (actually that goes for all). But with Wlad you have a person that's trying to get a belt against someone he already beat and the fight in his crooked ass adopted home country of Germany.
You are pathetic. Why aren't you demanding he fight Brewster again?
uuuuum maybe because brewster said he only wants to fight other belt holders, we`ll get rid off byrd and put wlad in position to rematch brewster and unifi later this year.
and for the record, no the amount off talented hw are low today another divison would just fuck upp more, maybe increase cruiser to 210.
Golota, Meehan, and Williams are either near his weight and height and or are never has beens (actually that goes for all). But with Wlad you have a person that's trying to get a belt against someone he already beat and the fight in his crooked ass adopted home country of Germany.
You are pathetic. Why aren't you demanding he fight Brewster again?
what about byrd picking on andrew golota, kali meehan and davarryl williamson so he can retain his belt?
id say a heavyweight division where the deserving fighters get the title shots would be a much better idea.
this is a retarded post by the way.
my man wlad would just get down to 235, come into fight night at 255 and maul everyone like a giant wildebeast.
It would be better if there's going to be a super Heavyweight Division.
A lot of fights are not really competitive. Smaller heavy weights are figting opponents who were 25 to 30 pounds heavier not to mention the height disparity.
One more divisin is the last thing we need. Actualy there are 17 divisions , its a lot. From the historic 8 divisins now we have 17. These things are not good for the best sport in all the world.
They will destroy it.
225, maybe 220. Not 235.
read the initial post genius, he said 235 as the limit, thats what im responding to, i didnt ask you what you thought it should be.
also, any of you guys who are saying 220 should be a cutoff for the heavyweight division are obviously idiots. you must all be 5 foot somethin and weigh 165 pounds and get manhandled by your fat bitch girlfriends. any full grown athletic male who stands 6'3 or above will naturally weight 220 pounds or more, to make them have to join some joke of a division cause youre jealous you never grew past 5'10 is just plain stupid
what about byrd picking on andrew golota, kali meehan and davarryl williamson so he can retain his belt?
id say a heavyweight division where the deserving fighters get the title shots would be a much better idea.
this is a retarded post by the way.
my man wlad would just get down to 235, come into fight night at 255 and maul everyone like a giant wildebeast.
225, maybe 220. Not 235.
I wholeheartedly agree. Wlad picking on Byrd so he can say he has a belt. I say heavy should be 200 to 235 pounds,
Superheavy 235 and up.
what about byrd picking on andrew golota, kali meehan and davarryl williamson so he can retain his belt?
id say a heavyweight division where the deserving fighters get the title shots would be a much better idea.
this is a retarded post by the way.
my man wlad would just get down to 235, come into fight night at 255 and maul everyone like a giant wildebeast.
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