Was James Toney ever Undisputed Champ?

My whole point here is ... by record, I say and you didn't discount, that Kessler has the better resume. Why is Lacy your #2? Because you've seen him? Have you ever seen Kessler? You should join a boxing tracker. Google 'boxing torrents' and d/l some Kessler fights. Lacy is a nobody. I have seen a couple of Kessler bouts against Siacca and Lucas. Otherwise, I would not have given a fair opinion. I like Lacy's style more, although I am not a huge fan of him.

Well, Kessler has Lucas, Siacca, and Mundine. Lacy has Vanderpool, Reid, and a few others. Well, I rank Lacy at #2, although Calzaghe is, by far, the best right now. Calzaghe has the better resume, even with the bums he's faced. The fact that he has 17 defenses of the title and has been champion since 1997 is good enough in today's super middleweight division. I'm out for today. See you later. My whole point here is ... by record, I say and you didn't discount, that Kessler has the better resume. Why is Lacy your #2? Because you've seen him? Have you ever seen Kessler? You should join a boxing tracker. Google 'boxing torrents' and d/l some Kessler fights. Lacy is a nobody.

Should I get Showtime? I hear that they have been having a lot of good fights recently.

Calzaghe deserves to be included in the best in the division, but Lacy has fought no one. Kessler is perhaps a step or two above Lacy in my opinion as far as competition. Check boxrec and see what you think, Exciterx23, I respect your opinion. I'd like to know how you size up their records. Well, Kessler has Lucas, Siacca, and Mundine. Lacy has Vanderpool, Reid, and a few others. Well, I rank Lacy at #2, although Calzaghe is, by far, the best right now. Calzaghe has the better resume, even with the bums he's faced. The fact that he has 17 defenses of the title and has been champion since 1997 is good enough in today's super middleweight division. I'm out for today. See you later.

:D Nuthuggers, can't live with 'em, sometimes you can't post without 'em, if no one says nothing stupid :).

Calzaghe deserves to be included in the best in the division, but Lacy has fought no one. Kessler is perhaps a step or two above Lacy in my opinion as far as competition. Check boxrec and see what you think, Exciterx23, I respect your opinion. I'd like to know how you size up their records. Yeah thats the stupidest post I've read post DiegoFuego. *adds to ignore* *leaves thread* Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

I know. I think that Calzaghe and Lacy are the best in the division. The winner will be recognized as the top fighter, who will have to solidify that status by facing Kessler. Calzaghe deserves to be included in the best in the division, but Lacy has fought no one. Kessler is perhaps a step or two above Lacy in my opinion as far as competition. Check boxrec and see what you think, Exciterx23, I respect your opinion. I'd like to know how you size up their records.

If it happens like that. Politics scare me :). But this is how it is: WBC-- Markus Beyer WBA-- Mikkel Kessler IBF-- Jeff Lacy WBO-- Joe Calzaghe check it at: http://www.fightnews.com/rankings2.htm if you think I'm wrong. Right. WBA, and WBC are not major belts in the SMW division bro. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

If it happens like that. Politics scare me :). But this is how it is: WBC-- Markus Beyer WBA-- Mikkel Kessler IBF-- Jeff Lacy WBO-- Joe Calzaghe check it at: http://www.fightnews.com/rankings2.htm if you think I'm wrong. I know. I think that Calzaghe and Lacy are the best in the division. The winner will be recognized as the top fighter, who will have to solidify that status by facing Kessler.

Calzaghe vs. Lacy winner faces Kessler. No more problem there. If it happens like that. Politics scare me :). But this is how it is: WBC-- Markus Beyer WBA-- Mikkel Kessler IBF-- Jeff Lacy WBO-- Joe Calzaghe check it at: http://www.fightnews.com/rankings2.htm if you think I'm wrong.

Calzaghe vs. Lacy winner faces Kessler. No more problem there.

Calzaghe doesn't have 2 major nor does Lacy. Call Showtime. I'ts obvious they are misadvertising this fight. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

Plus the ring title thank you piggu. the ring title is respectable usually, but in this case, I'll discount it. Beyer has a title. There are four major. Myself I don't care which part of the alphabet each guy has but I know that there is Lacy, Calzaghe, Kessler, and Beyer. Calzaghe doesn't have 2 major nor does Lacy.

Now Piggu kind of seems like a gay name. I should've picked something else. Oh well, no regrets.

Plus The Ring title. Plus the ring title thank you piggu. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

~ IBF Super Middleweight Title ~ (Lacy) ~ IBO Super Middleweight Title ~ (Calzaghe) ~ WBO Super Middleweight Title ~ (Calzaghe) Recognized as the undisputed middle weight title. On the line. Plus The Ring title.

what is a major belt and what isn't? they have 2 belts between them. right? ~ IBF Super Middleweight Title ~ (Lacy) ~ IBO Super Middleweight Title ~ (Calzaghe) ~ WBO Super Middleweight Title ~ (Calzaghe) Recognized as the undisputed middle weight title. On the line. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

Discounting Beyer is something one could do since he won't leave DE and is content to fight bums. But Kessler is coming, he fought Mundine in Au, he just destroyed Lucas into retirement. He is willing to fight here or in the UK and he is the real deal. Your yank mentality of what is major and what isn't won't save Lacy from exposure as a haymaker throwing bum.

Calzaghe might stay away long enough to win on points, you never know. Anyway, the winner of the fight should fight Kessler. I don't care much about Kessler, but the guy is legit and must be defeated by either Calzaghe or Lacy. Otherwise, there will not be a true champ at 168.

How is that? between the two they control all the major belts. Thats "how". what is a major belt and what isn't? they have 2 belts between them. right?