Toney promises to weigh just 217lbs for Rock
By Ant Evans: Heavyweight James Toney has promised trainer Freddie Roach that he will put the 'light' in Light's Out and weigh just 217lbs when he challenges Hasim Rahman for the WBC title on March 18.
After the shame and embarrassment of winning and immediately getting stripped of the WBA title last April after a positive steroid result, Toney challenges 'the Rock' at the Boardwalk Hall, Atlantic City, New Jersey in what will be the 37-year-old's second bite of the heavyweight cherry.
Despite being a former middleweight, super-middleweight and cruiserweight champion Toney's poundage has crept ever higher since he exploded onto the heavyweight scene by destroying Evander Holyfield in October 2003.
Toney, 69-4-2 (43), weighed 217lbs for that sizzling performance but came back at 227lbs for Rydell Booker after an 11 month injury lay-off. And then Toney weighed 233lbs for Ruiz before the 5ft 9incher scaled a career high of 235lbs for Dominic Guinn in September.
But the sublimely talented LA native knows that in two-time heavyweight title-holder Rahman, 41-5-1 (33), he is facing the most dangerous puncher of his career and that mobility will be a key to victory.
And yet, Toney weighs 260lbs at present and even Roach himself has his doubts that 'Lights Out' can actually get drop 43lbs in camp.
However, Roach told SecondsOut's LA reporter Ben Cohen. "As long as James is in shape I'll be happy and we'll win this fight. The only weapon Rahman has is his right hand. And James never gets hit with right hands."
That's just it though. If he comes in at 230, he's still lighter than he's been in his last two fights, and a year and a half...
** Of course we all know your perception of Toney has been colored since you've gotten steadily lighter in your loafers over these many years!
I'm sure he'll be lighter than his last couple fights.
That's just it though. If he comes in at 230, he's still lighter than he's been in his last two fights, and a year and a half...
lol, and here i thought by making this thread of comments Toney said, we'd at least get a few:
"That's good he has a goal like that in preparing for the fight. I hope he at least gets close."
lol, and all we got were jokes on him.. just watch the weign-in is all i have to say. I'm sure he'll be lighter than his last couple fights. And i'm sure it might not even be for Rahman, but for Toney's well-being in general..
this thread is ridiculous, i blame james toney, he knows damn well he'll never see 220 pounds again for the rest of his life. in fact, after he dies and they take out his organs he'll probably still be 230.
he says shit like that to get a rise out of people who are too dumb to realize it doesent really matter, i said before he will weigh in at another all time high for the rahman fight and all signs are pointing to that happening.
same things said over and over. I'm done, this is pointless. Even gringo accepted my thoughts and opinions on the topic (debate) but not King Bozo.
No one's accepted your thoughts that James Toney isn't a great fighter, becuase it's non sense you couldn't back up.
Think what you want dumb fuck. Not like anyone would change your futile thoughts anyway.
When someone can back up their point with logic, it's called a debate.
You're an ignorant and spitefull little shit who came looking for an argument (due to spite) and was completely unable to back up what he said.
Wait a get ready for that math test ace. Trolling on an internet site you've been banned from FIVE TIMES is sure going to help you get into "University". :rolleyes:
I love it! This coming from a guy with Bubbles from Trailer Park Boys in his avatar and the name Bozo !
And I love that you abandoned the non point you had, resorted to tired flaming, tried to go back to the non point when others pointed out how pathetic you were acting, repeated the defeated logic, and now are abandoning the point again.
You say Toney's not a great fighter, and have NOTHING to back it up.
Nice job on trolling looking to disagree with me this go around. Another resounding success.
:rolleyes:
You stupid fuck. He is a good fighter but no one ever looks at his losses or some of his gift wins. A couple rounds here and there and no lucky punch KO of Nunn and he's not being considered for the HOF at all.
So now you're saying he'll get into the Hall but isn't deserving?
You're an ignorant and spitefull little troll.
He's a great fighter, and that's why he'll make the Hall.
Losses happen to great fighters. The fact that's your only point to try and back up your assertion that he's not a great fighter shows how little you know.
and you're contribution is spending your precious computer time from your parents making gifs and nuthugging fighters or degrading others. Perfect example: "Maskaev KOed by a jab", what a joke.
More tired non sense coming from the little shit that better spends his time lying about being and athlete, getting banned FIVE times, and talking about "shizz" it the Hip Hop forum.
Face it, when you're in NSB, 90% of the time it's trolling after me due to spite.
You're a waste.
Thats why you've been banned FIVE times. :rolleyes:
How about you look at his losses and some of his questionable 'wins' then see what you think nuthugger!
We went through this, and you quickly realized what an ignorant ass you were being made to look like, and you abandonded the topic.
Losses happen to great fighters. It doesn't write off their accomplishments nor does it stop them from getting into the Hall of Fame.
I told you Toney's a great fighter, and an assured Hall of Famer.
You disagreed about the HoF, and then flip flopped.
You're now left with denying he's a great fighter, which you are unable to do without repeating the same failed logic that made you out to look ignorant in the 1st place.
This will bring you right back to the same spitefull flaming.
If you don't think Toney is a hall of famer that you don't know the sport of boxing, period.
That's why he's just resorted to the same old tired insults now.
He's abandoned the topic, and is just hissing spite.
The little shit follows me around in NSB daily looking to pick at something I've said, gets himself humiliated when he looks to debate it, and resorts to doing this.
He should be banned for a 6th time.
There's ZERO contribution to discussing boxing.
I'll tell you some things that will never change. You will never get out of your parents basement. You will never have a family (don't even tell me you have a girlfriend when you spend your waking moments, even time at 'work' on here). You will never have a girlfriend/wife.
Spiteful, wounded, bitter, old man.
More non sense.
I like how you've abandoned the "James Toney isn't a great fighter" stance that was working so well for you, and jumped to the same tired spitefull non sense you always spew.
On the topic of things that won't change are you getting yourself banned and coming back in hiding, you trolling after me (due to spite) and getting made a fool of, and you being unable to come up with anything the least bit truthful to say when you are desperate to sound insulting.
First Toney's not a Hall of Fame fighter, then he is.
Cue changing the subject...
very humourous indeed buddy. By the way, I love the way you call people junior and old man. I guess I'm too young to know anything about boxing and Anorak/pbds are "too old" to be on a forum. What does that make you 28 year old? Maybe I should just call you failure because that's what you are in life. Shouldn't you be working? ;) What about at 3am on a tuesday morning? Are you working the next morning? Guess not. :)
Before I press submit better put this down:
Template of Bozo:
1. Change the subject when he is wrong
2. Repeat the same argument over and over.
Again, you have abandoned the non point you embarassed yourself with by not being able to back it up, and resort to the same old tired non sense.
Then you cap it off nicely by talking about repeating one's self at the end of your post. That couldn't be more fitting.
Once again, you trolled in on me again in this thread (due to spite) like you do daily, you talked non sense you couldn't back up, and now you're repeating yourself.
Some things never change.
Bozo. If Toney and Wlad ever meet I will bet on Wlad for boxingscene membership. If Toney wins, I fuck off. If Wlad wins, you get the fuck off this forum. Deal?
I wound't place a bet with you on any fight.
If you lose, I'm sure you'll just fuck off like the FIVE TIMES you fucked off before, right?
Face it, you're a joke.
You've said in 3 seperate posts now you're leaving this conversation, yet you continue to come back and illustrate you're upset because you were completely unable to back up anything you say.
Do you not see the humor in saying "good day" to me when all you do is look for instances to come trolling after me? :rofl: