The Truth Behind the Judah Debacle

This fight had Don King written all over it http://blogs.foxsports.com/CurlyMo/2006/1/10/Only_In_America That could of happened, but if Judah was playing by that stupid game plan, he deserved to lose.

This, after what happened in the Rose Bowl, was very disappointing.

We all know Judah is a straight-up little punk, but now we know where he got it from. On the other hand, he is a very talented fighter, who has lost before and come back to shine. He'll do it again, I think. But one of these days he's going to have to grow up and act like a 28 yr old professional fighter and not a thugged-out child. here comes the karma train "BLUE! BLUE!"

Don King and judges anything is plausible. But the fact remains that he lost.

How about Zab didn't stay focused, it's not like this is the first time.

Back up my BS? Are you retarded? I just told you why he lost: No Chin, No Recuperating Ability like JMM has. You must be retarded to think that Marquez has no chin or recuperating ability. I bet you wouldn't catch Pac talking any shit like that or anybody else who knows shit about boxing.

I just watched the fight again and my tape had him saying "that guy won 3, maybe 4 rounds". That's what he said initially when the mike was on him, but not the camera, then later he said 5 or 6

ohh god why would he do that to risk a 6 mil $$$$ fight with Mayweather??? logic ppl!

Not much chin. Not much recuperating ability like Juan Marquez. Now, Judah has no chin, no heart, and no sportmanship, but ... Juan Manuel Marquez is something different altogether. I don't even see where you get this. I believe that Marquez should've decisioned Pacquiao. He got up after 3 kds and with a broken nose after rd 1 to pretty much take the rest of 11 rds. Judah would've been home in bed or in the hospital by the time the bell rang for that 12th rd. Backup your BS.

I agree with Zab's dad- Baldomir won 6 rounds and Judah won 6 rounds. But one of Baldomir's was a 10-8. 114-113 for Baldomir. The fight was pretty easy to judge and nobody should really be complaining or contesting it, saying Zab won. Because he did not. As for the conspiracy theory, it's not that bad, as far as conspiracy theories go. But it doesn't matter why he lost, really, does it? He got caught because he was relaxed and biding his time, this guy says, well that's his perrogative if he wants to extend the fighter and go more rounds for whatever reason, but when it doesn't work out, you have to suck it up and move on. All Zab and his dad have done is complain about King and the judges. That's pretty disgraceful. We all know Judah is a straight-up little punk, but now we know where he got it from. On the other hand, he is a very talented fighter, who has lost before and come back to shine. He'll do it again, I think. But one of these days he's going to have to grow up and act like a 28 yr old professional fighter and not a thugged-out child.

....Can't blame King for Judah's glass jaw.

If Judah was just carrying this dude, then why didn't he fight in the 8th, 9th, 10th, and 11th rounds? Surely he knew he had to win SOME of those rounds. Bullshit crybaby excuses. Judah sucks, and so does Baldomir. The end

I haven't seen one scorecard where someone had Judah winning yet. No conspiracy, just tears. Judah whined, he'll never get my respect again.

He did say that but then later in the interview he said Baldomir won maybe 5 or 6 rounds at the most. To clear up something about the 6th round where people were saying Judah's corner was saying code red, they were actually saying cold rag. Judah told them something was in his eye and Yoel Judah said give me cold rag he's got something in his eye. Nope he said I have Blurred vision someone else said he had something in his eye. but yes they did say cold rag not code red.

Sorry for the miscommunication ... I didn't mean that you were making excuses. I used your quote only to refer to how the fight was probably scored. Maybe you aren't making excuses for Zab but most everyone else seem to have some theory as to why Zab lost rather than trusting what has been obvious for a while that his chin and heart are bad. ooops my bad.

I just watched the fight again and my tape had him saying "that guy won 3, maybe 4 rounds". He did say that but then later in the interview he said Baldomir won maybe 5 or 6 rounds at the most. To clear up something about the 6th round where people were saying Judah's corner was saying code red, they were actually saying cold rag. Judah told them something was in his eye and Yoel Judah said give me cold rag he's got something in his eye.

I didn't make any excuses for Zab he got beat as my score card states. Sorry for the miscommunication ... I didn't mean that you were making excuses. I used your quote only to refer to how the fight was probably scored. Maybe you aren't making excuses for Zab but most everyone else seem to have some theory as to why Zab lost rather than trusting what has been obvious for a while that his chin and heart are bad.

Some judges could have even given the next round to Baldomir 10-8 since all Judah did was run. I think that Zab knew he was up against more than he bargained for after like rd 2 or by the end of rd 1 even. He wasn't carrying this guy, Baldomir was a legitimate challenge for him even early. He wasn't scared of Judah's speed or power and was doing a very good job making up for the difference in hand speed by timing Judah all night. I wish people would quit making excuses for why Zab lost and just accept the fact that he didn't just throw the fight away--he got beat. I didn't make any excuses for Zab he got beat as my score card states.

I would have had it a draw if Baldomir didn't have Zab doing the Harlem shuffle in round 7 but I gave "baldozar" a 10-8 round because of it. Some judges could have even given the next round to Baldomir 10-8 since all Judah did was run. I think that Zab knew he was up against more than he bargained for after like rd 2 or by the end of rd 1 even. He wasn't carrying this guy, Baldomir was a legitimate challenge for him even early. He wasn't scared of Judah's speed or power and was doing a very good job making up for the difference in hand speed by timing Judah all night. I wish people would quit making excuses for why Zab lost and just accept the fact that he didn't just throw the fight away--he got beat.

You could def be right on that one. Originally that's what I thought he said too, but then I thought he mentioned his rib. But you are probably right. But that's a far cry from that stupid ass writer saying Zab came back to the corner to say, "I'm ready". And Joel did say at first, that Baldy won three or four rounds, then towards the end of the interview he did say something about Baldy winning 6 rounds tops. I distinctevly remember hearing Joel say 6 rounds, because I was like, "that's half the fight!". I still need to rewatch it because upon first viewing I thought Zab won a close decision. I just didn't thought that, even though Zab was barely throwing, he landed cleaner shots. I would have had it a draw if Baldomir didn't have Zab doing the Harlem shuffle in round 7 but I gave "baldozar" a 10-8 round because of it.