Why Are People Complaining About Ruiz/Valuev?

and whos felix savon? possibly the greatest heavy weight of all time he's cuban so he never went pro he won 3 or four gold medals and won every world championship for over a decade untill sultan beat him twice in the world championships. I have watch savon since i was a little kid the man was flawless had the speed and skill of ali but had more power ali was probebly smarter though. If you have never heard of felix savon you don't know shit about boxing

DiegoFuego and Red Menace both have a point.

I believe Ruiz won.............oh well either way Valuev is going to look really funny getting KOed by Brewster or Wlad someday..............maybe even Rahman. :D

you said you don't care if John Ruiz gets robbed. any self-respecting boxing fan hates a bad decision. I despise De La Hoya, but I in no way supported that decision in the second Mosley fight or the one in the Trinidad fight. You're a biased asshole. wow, diegofuego calling me a biased asshole. that makes a whole LOTTA sense...

wow, diegofuego calling me a disgrace. that makes a whole LOTTA sense... you said you don't care if John Ruiz gets robbed. any self-respecting boxing fan hates a bad decision. I despise De La Hoya, but I in no way supported that decision in the second Mosley fight or the one in the Trinidad fight. You're a biased asshole.

An American that is a Ukrainian of a Russian descent? Sorry man that doesnt make any sense what so ever. I think you mean to say that he is an American of a Ukranian descent. Stop putting all Slavs in the same bucket. Russians are not Ukranians...Stop being so fucking ignorant. Ouch, didn't mean to be ignorant. It was all The Soviet Union when he left.

it doesn't matter if you hate a guy, you don't cheer if he gets robbed of a decision. I haven't seen the fight so I don't know how it went down, but I do know that your opinions do not reflect that of the entire forum. You may think John Ruiz is a bum and support screwing him over, but not everyone does. You're a fucking disgrace to this forum. wow, diegofuego calling me a disgrace. that makes a whole LOTTA sense...

why are people defending john the bum ruiz? who cares if he was robbed? who cares about him? and who cares if he retires? its not like he contributed anything positive to boxing. it doesn't matter if you hate a guy, you don't cheer if he gets robbed of a decision. I haven't seen the fight so I don't know how it went down, but I do know that your opinions do not reflect that of the entire forum. You may think John Ruiz is a bum and support screwing him over, but not everyone does. You're a fucking disgrace to this forum.

ruiz is like the boxers of old the way he takes fights. he doesnt care where or when, he just fights, and theirs honor in that granted, hes not the best fighter, but he works with what hes got and it made him a champ. I agree. Ruiz stepped into the ring with a guy that has an obscene weight advantage on him, like 100lbs or something ... and not 100lbs of fat either. That's pretty brave, even if Valuev is unskilled. John Ruiz is a boring fighter to watch, but that doesn't make him a bad guy or a coward.

What is your citizenship my friend? My best friend was born in the Ukraine but he moved here to the States whne he was 7. He and his family became citizens 5 years later. As far as I'm concerned he's an American of Russian descent. An American that is a Ukrainian of a Russian descent? Sorry man that doesnt make any sense what so ever. I think you mean to say that he is an American of a Ukranian descent. Stop putting all Slavs in the same bucket. Russians are not Ukranians...Stop being so fucking ignorant.

ruiz is like the boxers of old the way he takes fights. he doesnt care where or when, he just fights, and theirs honor in that granted, hes not the best fighter, but he works with what hes got and it made him a champ. how dare you compare the fighters of old with a bum like ruiz. im sure joe louis, rocky marciano, and jack dempsey are spinning in their graves to hear such a comparison. the fighters of old fought to survive. fighters today fight for money and nothing else. old schoolers would fight sometimes more than once a month. we'll be lucky if we get some fighters who fight more than twice a year. comparing fighters of old with john the bum ruiz is sickening.

No he's not, he's a cheater, he fights in Germany, and he's ugly. ruiz is like the boxers of old the way he takes fights. he doesnt care where or when, he just fights, and theirs honor in that granted, hes not the best fighter, but he works with what hes got and it made him a champ.

I left to the U.S. when I was 20. I have been here 10 years. Does this make me an American or a Russian? What is your citizenship my friend? My best friend was born in the Ukraine but he moved here to the States whne he was 7. He and his family became citizens 5 years later. As far as I'm concerned he's an American of Russian descent. And a great guy. The heavyweight division has bored me for a long time now. After watching the likes of Ali, forman, frazier, Norton, Shavers, Holmes and then later Tyson, Holyfield, forman part 2, Bowe, lewis, it's hard to get excited about the collection of dogs posing as heavyweight boxers today.

Ahead on one card, but trailing by two on the remaining cards former WBA heavyweight champion John Ruiz needed a 10-8 round in the twelfth to retain his title via a draw. "The Quietman" ended up losing the twelfth on two cards while the third read 10-10, thus crowning Nicolay Valuev. Derek Milham of Australia scored it 116-114 for Valuev, Hector Hernandez of Mexico scored it 116-113 for Valuev and Francisco Martinez of New Zealand scored it 114-114

Lol Amerussian Amerussian LOL amusing

I left to the U.S. when I was 20. I have been here 10 years. Does this make me an American or a Russian? Amerussian

21 SANDERS LOL! I left to the U.S. when I was 20. I have been here 10 years. Does this make me an American or a Russian?

ibragimov may be good, but he needs to prove himself, i bet he will be another bust just like wlad and vitali...valuev sucks a fat sack of balls. I bet if he was living in America, nobody would know who he is. ...Vitali was a bust??? Wlad is still in the game right? Maybe in Bizzaro world your right. The bottom line is that foreign Heavyweights are taking over and there isn't shit anyone can do about it. I root for guys from the USA first if they are worth a shit(ie:Holy,Foreman, Mesi, etc. etc.) but if the foreign heavies are throwing out the best talent and they also happen to be pretty good human beings then fuck it. The mecca of boxing is no longer ruling the heavies and the Euro/foreign takeover is here.

well, Tzsyu was raised in Russia until well over 20 21 SANDERS LOL!

and whos felix savon? One of the greatest amateurs ever, but the thing is, this guy was a gold medallist before Tyson even went pro.... So in other words, Berbick beat Ali... So I guess we can hype up Berbick too.