alright, first and foremost, i completely ripped this idea off but i'd like to get all the thoughts from the boxingscene crew:
2005 Boxing Awards
Fighter Of The Year: gotta give it to Ricky Hatton
Top Prospect: Allan Green
Fight Of The Year: Corrales vs. Castillo I
Knockout Of The Year: Allan Green :16 KO of Jaidon Codrington (saw this one in person!)
Biggest Upset: Either Raheem over Morales or Taylor over Hopkins (twice)
Screwjob Of The Year: Hopkins/Taylor I
Best Is Yet To Come: Jeff Lacy
Worst Fight Of The Year: DaVarryl Williamson vs. Chris Byrd
Comeback Of The Year: James Toney (since injury)
think back on the whole year and post yours.... :boxing:
oh yeah, p.s. please no flaming here, let's all respect each others opinions here.
Fighter Of The Year: ricky hatton (followed closely by jt)
Top Prospect: Allan Green
Fight Of The Year: hatton vs tzyu
Knockout Of The Year: Allan Green :16 KO of Jaidon Codrington
Biggest Upset: Either maussa vs harris
Screwjob Of The Year: Hopkins/Taylor I
Best Is Yet To Come: Jeff Lacy
Worst Fight Of The Year: joe calzage vs evans ashira
Comeback Of The Year: James Toney (since injury)
Fighter ofr the year; Jermaine Taylor
Top prospect: Sam Peter
Fight of the year: castillo-corrales
Knockout of the year: Brewster ko Golota
Biggest upset: Taylor over Hopkins twice
Screw job of the year: Byrd-Willimson
Best is yet to come: Lacy, Peter, Valeuv, Ibragimov
Worst fight of they: byrd-williamson
comeback of the year; wladimir klitschko, he went from being at the bottom of the lists to the number contender in wbo and ibf...
2005 Boxing Awards
Fighter Of The Year: Ricky Hatton
Top Prospect: Vicente Escobedo
Fight Of The Year: Corrales vs. Castillo I
Knockout Of The Year: Hmmm......Brewster-Krasniqi
Biggest Upset: Harris-Maussa
Screwjob Of The Year: Hopkins/Taylor I
Best Is Yet To Come: Jeff Lacy
Worst Fight Of The Year: DaVarryl Williamson vs. Chris Byrd
Comeback of the year: Lamon Brewster
this one i agree with the most. but i think the prospect of the year goes to Edwin Valero.
Fighter of The Year: Ricky Hatton
Top Prospect: Ray Bautista
Fight of The Year: Corrales vs Castillo
Knockout of the Year: Rahman KO V. Klitszchko to Retirement
Biggest Upset: McBride beats Mike Tyson
Screwjob of The Year: Erik Morales vs Zaheer Raheem (judge 3)
Best is Yet to Come: Brian Viloria
Worst Fight of The Year: Winky vs Trinidad
Comeback of The Year: Jesus Chaves
Cheater of The Year: Jose Juis Castillo
Best Event of The Year: Vitali Klitschko Retirement
you beat me to this! :p
You're wrong, period, end of story. Like I said, the 3rd or 4th, whichever it was, belonged to Taylor. You can harp on one round all you want, and it doesn't make a difference. In a 10 point system, all rounds are equal.
Taylor deserved an early round or TWO he didn't get, and Hops deserved 12. This isn't complicated.
I have a nice little response ready but it's like beating a dead horse.
Hops was jobbed in the 12th as it stood. About half of the public knows this, some people think otherwise, some have no opinion. You know that nice little reel they played before the fight though? That spoke volumes about the feeling of the outcome of the fight (the one where all of those writers/analysts/journalists basically said "what the fuck was Ford thinking").
hmm
Now you're just denying fact.
The 12th round is scored correctly for Hopkins and the fight is a draw.
I think the 12th pretty much decided the fight, hence the controversy.
You're wrong, period, end of story. Like I said, the 3rd or 4th, whichever it was, belonged to Taylor. You can harp on one round all you want, and it doesn't make a difference. In a 10 point system, all rounds are equal.
Taylor deserved an early round or TWO he didn't get, and Hops deserved 12. This isn't complicated.
The only thing I'm lobbying vs is ppl who claim that the 12th decided the fight, because it did not. No round is any more important than any other round.
Now you're just denying fact.
The 12th round is scored correctly for Hopkins and the fight is a draw.
I think the 12th pretty much decided the fight, hence the controversy.
hmm
The only thing I'm lobbying vs is ppl who claim that the 12th decided the fight, because it did not. No round is any more important than any other round.
Fighter of The Year: jermaine taylor
Top Prospect: andre ward
Fight of The Year: Corrales vs Castillo 1
Knockout of the Year: castillo's ko of corrales
Biggest Upset: raheem over morales
Screwjob of The Year: every1 who says hopkins won the 2nd taylor fight
Best is Yet to Come: jeff lacy
Worst Fight of The Year: hopkins / taylor 2
Comeback of The Year: james toney (since injury)
Cheater of The Year: Jose Juis Castillo & his trainer
Best Event of The Year: mundine / green fight being set for next year.
Of course I did. Did you suspect otherwise?
I actually didn't know. You usually seem to be a, "well that's the way things are" kind of guy so I'm surprised that you're lobbying against the fact that Hopkins was jobbed in the 12th round.
At the time, Hopkins was in line to retain his belts in the 12th round if proper scoring took place. That's the way things were, but a very NOTABLE error was made when Ford scored it incorrectly. None of the earlier rounds were so distincly clear rounds for Taylor in the same way that the 12th round was a clear round for Hopkins.
The only reason that fight was a screwjob was because of a blatant error made by ONE judge in the 12th round...nothing more, nothing less. The overall fight itself was close.
Shouldn't "cheater of the year" go to Diego Corrales for spitting out his mouthpiece twice and getting 40 extra seconds to recover?
no it goes to Castillo cuz he came in 2 lbs ova the weight limit and had the EARLY advantage of the fight.
Fighter of The Year: Ricky Hatton
Top Prospect: Ray Bautista
Fight of The Year: Corrales vs Castillo
Knockout of the Year: Rahman KO V. Klitszchko to Retirement
Biggest Upset: McBride beats Mike Tyson
Screwjob of The Year: Erik Morales vs Zaheer Raheem (judge 3)
Best is Yet to Come: Brian Viloria
Worst Fight of The Year: Winky vs Trinidad
Comeback of The Year: Jesus Chaves
Cheater of The Year: Jose Juis Castillo
Best Event of The Year: Vitali Klitschko Retirement
Shouldn't "cheater of the year" go to Diego Corrales for spitting out his mouthpiece twice and getting 40 extra seconds to recover?
hmm
Fights are not scored on one round. Therefore, my point still stands. I can take any round that Taylor should have gotten early that wasn't scored for him and say the same thing. If two wrongs don't make a right then how is the 12th round's inproper scoring any better an early round's inproper scoring?
Answer: It's not.
Fighter Of The Year: ricky hatton (followed closely by jt)
Top Prospect: Allan Green
Fight Of The Year: hatton vs tzyu
Knockout Of The Year: Allan Green :16 KO of Jaidon Codrington
Biggest Upset: Either maussa vs harris
Screwjob Of The Year: Hopkins/Taylor I
Best Is Yet To Come: Jeff Lacy
Worst Fight Of The Year: joe calzage vs evans ashira
Comeback Of The Year: James Toney (since injury)
Fighter Of The Year: gotta give it to Ricky Hatton
Top Prospect: Allan Green
Fight Of The Year: Corrales vs. Castillo I
Knockout Of The Year: Allan Green :16 KO of Jaidon Codrington (saw this one in person!)
Biggest Upset: Either Raheem over Morales
Screwjob Of The Year: Hopkins/Taylor I
Best Is Yet To Come: Jeff Lacy
Worst Fight Of The Year: hopkins taylor II
Comeback Of The Year: James Toney (since injury)
I cannot agree that Taylor deserves fighter of the year.
He's an excellent fighter but the two Hopkins fights were the most boring and uncommitted I have have seen for a long time.
People have a lot to say about Hatton but he and Tzysu landed more punches in one round than Tailor and Hopkins landed in two fights.
Just becuase Taylor beat the mighty Bernard Hopkins that does not make him a legend or a great champion, Hopkins is 40 years of age and way past his best yet he still more than competed with Taylor, some score cards had Hopkins the winner.
So fighter of the year no, still Hatton for me, after all he did actually fight!
THANK YOU, please tell that to super_lightweight for me.. :p
There isn't much to argue. SLW is a good poster and him and I disagree often, but as far as the 12th round aspect of the fight goes it was a screwjob.
He's correct about a fight not being a robbery if it's extremely close and every round is razor thin. This particular case was an exception because the 12th round was NOT razor thin and even Taylor fans admit that Hopkins won that round.
Again, this isn't basketball...there are no make-up calls. Two wrongs don't make a right and one cannot use the argument that, "oh well Hopkins won an earlier round that he shouldn't have won so Ford just made up for it with the 12th round." That's a serious logical fallacy and if one did that anywhere else the case would be dismissed and overlooked. Every round must be scored individually and Ford basically scored the 12th round for Taylor because he thought he had won the overall fight so he just threw him that round.