barrera / pacquiao II

if pac fights like he did against barrera 1st time out he will hammer barrera but pac hasnt fought like that since. stardom may of ruined him IMO. what happened to his bobbing and weaving, the variety of punches he can throw, the closing down of the ring, all that great boxing skill he showed against barrera. now hes just a one dimensional (not literally) fighter who really needs to change trainer. no offence but roach's advice in the corner vs marquez & morales was poor. maybe its pac who isnt really listening, either way he needs someone to kick him up da ass the best pacquiao performance ive seen from him was against barrera, he was a beast that night, non stop punching, bobbin and weavin, speed, cut off the ring, but i dont know what happened to that pacman, maybe he got complacent after beating barrera and started relyin too much on his left. i just feel that pacman cannot get any better and reach the level he did against barrera the first time, he was hungry in that fight. like you pointed out in your post, the things he done in that fight with barrera, he aint been doin it in his recent fights, but he still can recapture it though. i just feel you will see a different barrera in the ring if they fight again.

i hear you on that bro, but you gotta remember barrera has many styles, he can box, brawl, trade, box on the back foot, people say pacman will be too fast for barrera or he will just keep on throwin punches, fair enough, thats a good point, pacquiao can do that, in all honsety he destroyed barrera in their first fight. but barrera can adjust to pacmans style, if you look back on their first fight, watch the first 2 rounds, barrera was beatin pacman to the jab, he was keepin him off balance and would just throw hard stiff jabs to keep him occupied and then just shoot out a right hand if he came in close, it was only when pacman started drivin him back barrera was troubled, plus after he got knocked down in round 3, barrera seemed too cautious to stick with his original game plan. he just wanted to stay outside and that was his biggest mistake as pacquiao just unleashed bombs on him from the outside. if pac fights like he did against barrera 1st time out he will hammer barrera but pac hasnt fought like that since. stardom may of ruined him IMO. what happened to his bobbing and weaving, the variety of punches he can throw, the closing down of the ring, all that great boxing skill he showed against barrera. now hes just a one dimensional (not literally) fighter who really needs to change trainer. no offence but roach's advice in the corner vs marquez & morales was poor. maybe its pac who isnt really listening, either way he needs someone to kick him up da ass

pacman still wins. it's not the ill-prepared mab, it's their styles and mab is perfect for pac's style. how many times do we have hear this phrase "STYLES MAKE FIGHTS.?" i hear you on that bro, but you gotta remember barrera has many styles, he can box, brawl, trade, box on the back foot, people say pacman will be too fast for barrera or he will just keep on throwin punches, fair enough, thats a good point, pacquiao can do that, in all honsety he destroyed barrera in their first fight. but barrera can adjust to pacmans style, if you look back on their first fight, watch the first 2 rounds, barrera was beatin pacman to the jab, he was keepin him off balance and would just throw hard stiff jabs to keep him occupied and then just shoot out a right hand if he came in close, it was only when pacman started drivin him back barrera was troubled, plus after he got knocked down in round 3, barrera seemed too cautious to stick with his original game plan. he just wanted to stay outside and that was his biggest mistake as pacquiao just unleashed bombs on him from the outside.

If manny beats El terible next month then Barrera would face him after he fights jesus chavez, ans trust me he's a profesional so it would be a whole diffrent fight. Thats the diffrence between Paquiao and the 3 M's that they could change their style if needed but pac only has 1 style. but its a good exciting style!

Barrera would win this one, there was tons wrong with his prep for the last fight which we didnt think would effect him but it did. Not an easy fight for him - no fight agaisnt Pac man is - but Barrera by a very close UD for me.

i voted Barrera via Decision because of how impressed i was with his last fight against Robbie Peden. But i think it would be a close one, and exciting.

if they fight again i would go with a barrera unanimous decision, what gives me jokes is that some pacquiao fans cannot accept the fact that barrera had problems in his training camp, yet when people bring up pacquiaos loss to morales, they bring up pacquiaos excuses about him sleepin on the floor, havin blood tests, etc.. now dont get me wrong, i no these were genuine reasons that might have affected him going in against morales, but barrera has legitimate excuses as to why he lost to pacquiao too, why cant pacman fans accept these reasons too?? barrera will have learnt a lot from his first fight with pacquiao and i genuinly believe he will fight pacquiao again. i mean he got fucked up by junior jones, got KO'd and he still faced him again, lost to morales, fought him again, won the second fight, then when some people thought morales would blow him away if they fought again at 130lbs, a weight barrera had never fought at before, he won that fight too, why would barrera be scared to fight pacquiao again if hes fought fighters he has lost to in the past?? if pacman gets past morales this time round, i reckon barrera will accept the challenge and face him. and lets face it, barrera can only get better if they were to fight again, there is no way barrera could fight any worse then he did that night when he lost to pacman.

is it true that 9/10 prisoners in California are Mexicans? I saw it on CNN Documentary. Thats bull, I had an uncle that I would vist and I would see just as many blacks and whites as mexicans. The majority of the mexicans locked up are the gangster ones, you dont see the hard working ones in there.

Filipinos beter then mexicans??? thats funny!!!!! and what jail is this that fillipinos are running???? thats even funnyer!!!! I know it aint no jail in california thats been run by fillipinos. is it true that 9/10 prisoners in California are Mexicans? I saw it on CNN Documentary.

Well...I'm surprised. I was sure that was the the French who were the true kings of Filipino jails in the Philippines. ;) No..US who were the true kings of filipino jails(they commit crimes here and get away with it easily). US control phil. fcking imperialist!!! :D

Well...I'm surprised. I was sure that was the the French who were the true kings of Filipino jails in the Philippines. ;) huh? what the fuck are you talking about?

barrera would be an old cow if the two will face again for the second time

Filipinos beter then mexicans??? thats funny!!!!! and what jail is this that fillipinos are running???? thats even funnyer!!!! I know it aint no jail in california thats been run by fillipinos.

LOL,are you kidding me, give me the record of Mexicans vs. Filipinos. Mexicans have beat Filipions way more then they beat Mexicans, their not even close to having more wins on us, and dont try to back it up by some crap about jail. Pac has not even done enough to be better then Morales or Barrera period. Mexicans had soooooooooooo many nights were all the Mexicans won, that night was like the only time it happened to you guys. What's the ratio? 1 million Mexicans to 1 Filipino? Of course you know who wins most of the time. Boxing is Mexico's game, except the middleweight to heavies.

Pacquiao by late TKO or UD. Barrera doesnt put forth enough pressure to make pac retreat like EM did, and thats one thing u gotta do against pacquiao. Who knows though maybe hes seen JMM do it and EM do it and learned something from them. But unless he changes his strategy Pac beats him again. mab's a smart guy. I'm sure he would change his gameplan

no split decision?..this fight gonna be close..but since pacman is gaining much exp from morales fight. i think pacman will win again by SD or KO(early)

A repeat of the last fight. I think it was silly of Pacquiao to target Morales, he should be chasing Barerra like he stole something. I simply think that Barerra would get outsped and outpunched again.

I dont think do. PAC is better than BARRERA or MORALES. Did you see in the last fight 3 Filipinos won 3 mexicans lost. Who's the better now? Yes Morales won before but MAnny has a lot of problems. Hey Manny is not just our good boxer there are a lot here. we only excel in small divisions because we are all small but pound for pound Filipinos are better than Mexicans in fighting. In the Jail in the Philippines, Filipinos are king and runs the jail. While in other State jail, some filipinos are respected. Not only mexicans but also Filipinos are tough... LOL,are you kidding me, give me the record of Mexicans vs. Filipinos. Mexicans have beat Filipions way more then they beat Mexicans, their not even close to having more wins on us, and dont try to back it up by some crap about jail. Pac has not even done enough to be better then Morales or Barrera period. Mexicans had soooooooooooo many nights were all the Mexicans won, that night was like the only time it happened to you guys.

But unless he changes his strategy Pac beats him again. I posted strong earlier and I have a lot of faith in Barrera, but you are exactly right. The history with Junior Jones makes me worry, he nearly ended Baby Face's career. Barrera struggles against speed unless it is predictable, I think the Marquez fight showed a lot about how predictable Pacquiao can be, but will he ever be again?

Pacquiao by late TKO or UD. Barrera doesnt put forth enough pressure to make pac retreat like EM did, and thats one thing u gotta do against pacquiao. Who knows though maybe hes seen JMM do it and EM do it and learned something from them. But unless he changes his strategy Pac beats him again.