Hopkins Taylor Punch Stats

I wont express my views on how the fight went but what I found funny was how lampley had the nerve to say Hopkins was being more productive in the rounds but Taylor was throwing the "showier" punches?first off showier is not a word and I never knew throwing a punch w that looked good was more effective then throwing and landing a punch

That was really the only way that Hopkins could have competed like he did at 40. It was to his advantage to lull Taylor into that pace, to make him aprehesive, waste nervous energy, and try to counter him. You saw in 11 that if Hopkins had tried to go toe to toe his lack of reflex would have made it to his disadvantage. As ugly and boring as it was (I wasn't entertained either) it was the only way Hopkins could have fought as effectivly as he did while taking Taylor out of his game. I agree it's time for him to hang them up. He's got nothing left to prove, and those two losses were very competitve for a 40 year old. He has an accomplished career and nothing to be ashamed of. I agree. Taylor is an HBO piggy bank as far as I'm concerned. I had a funny feeling about this fight, and I thought Taylor would most likely win due to a shoddy decision but I wen't with my heart and picked Hopkins to win his last hurrah. Hopkins had a great career and it's time to hang them up. He has no options at this point imo. He is going to get beaten again most likely by a younger, hungrier fighter unless He matches himself up against an older, slower opponent like himself.

That was really the only way that Hopkins could have competed like he did at 40. It was to his advantage to lull Taylor into that pace, to make him aprehesive, waste nervous energy, and try to counter him. You saw in 11 that if Hopkins had tried to go toe to toe his lack of reflex would have made it to his disadvantage. As ugly and boring as it was (I wasn't entertained either) it was the only way Hopkins could have fought as effectivly as he did while taking Taylor out of his game. I agree it's time for him to hang them up. He's got nothing left to prove, and those two losses were very competitve for a 40 year old. He has an accomplished career and nothing to be ashamed of.

Taylor is not well-schooled like He is made out to be. He is fairly amateurish and wastes many punches. This fight wasn't a tad bit interesting. It was just awful. I always enjoy a good boxing lesson but these guys fought timid and scared.

I have to say looking at the stats HOPKINS WAS ROBBED!!!!!!!

I've vowed to never watch a fight on HBO with the sound on. Showtime has fairly unbiased announcers but Lampley is just pathetic. It's a waste to see him go on about Taylor landed minimal jabs. I don't see many high points from this fight. From a fans perspective, it was an awful fight even if you are a boxing purist like myself. Hopkins should of layed his ass out on the line as this was his last hurrah (or should be). I'm crying robbery right now but I'm terribly dissapointed in what Taylor showed tonight. He seized the moment in the 11th and took the fight to Hopkins, but other then that He fought timid, and overcautious. I wasn't a big fan of the commentary either. There was a lot of hurrah when Taylor was throwing, even if he wasn't really landing anything solid. Things were pretty quiet for Hopkins, I think because not many people really like him. Either that or HBO is really trying to pimp their new star. Unlike you, the majority of others, and maybe Bozo, I like this fight, from a boxing standpoint.

Yikes, we agree. I echo your thought about B-Hop landing the more cleaner and telling shots, but this time it wasn't just in the last 4 rounds, it was pretty evenly distributed. Also, it was hilarious to see Lampley raving about how Taylor was getting his jab going unlike the 1st fight, only to have a stat pop up right after he said it that showed he was landing 5 jabs per round. :rolleyes: HBO seems to get worse and worse each year. When they're not going on and on and on about an observation they noticed a minute earler that's no longer happening, Lampley is yelling about something that's not accurate just as the opposit is happening. It's gawd awful. I've vowed to never watch a fight on HBO with the sound on. Showtime has fairly unbiased announcers but Lampley is just pathetic. It's a waste to see him go on about Taylor landed minimal jabs. I don't see many high points from this fight. From a fans perspective, it was an awful fight even if you are a boxing purist like myself. Hopkins should of layed his ass out on the line as this was his last hurrah (or should be). I'm crying robbery right now but I'm terribly dissapointed in what Taylor showed tonight. He seized the moment in the 11th and took the fight to Hopkins, but other then that He fought timid, and overcautious.

BHop is probably gonna use the compubox stats to make his case that he won next time he gets interviewed.

Yikes, we agree. U echo your thoght about B-Hop landing the more cleaner and telling shots, but this time it wasn't just in the last 4 rounds, it was pretty evenly distributed. Also, it was hilarious to see Lampley raving about how Taylor was getting his jab going unlike the 1st fight, only to have a stat pop up right after he said it that showed he was landing 5 jabs per round. :rolleyes: HBO seems to get worse and worse each year. When they're not going on and on and on about an observation they noticed a minute earler that's no longer happening, Lampley is yelling about something that's not accurate just as the opposit is happening. It's gawd awful. LOL. you feel how I felt when they commentated on Pac vs Morales on March 19. It was all Morales. Pac would throwvicious punches and everyting they complimamnted was Morales did, Morales is tis, Morales is betta at tis, Oh WoW vicious punch from Morales, etc!

I tend to agree with Bozo here. I had the fight 115-113. This was a mirror of the 1st fight, except I believe Hopkins landed the much cleaner and telling blows. It's really sickening to hear Lampley talk about Taylor as opposed to Hopkins. I watched the fight for the first 5 rounds with the sound on, but muted it after I heard Lampley screaming after every jab that landed by Taylor (which wasn't much by the way). I'm going to pay my respect to Hopkins. I think it's time to get out of the game. Yikes, we agree. I echo your thought about B-Hop landing the more cleaner and telling shots, but this time it wasn't just in the last 4 rounds, it was pretty evenly distributed. Also, it was hilarious to see Lampley raving about how Taylor was getting his jab going unlike the 1st fight, only to have a stat pop up right after he said it that showed he was landing 5 jabs per round. :rolleyes: HBO seems to get worse and worse each year. When they're not going on and on and on about an observation they noticed a minute earler that's no longer happening, Lampley is yelling about something that's not accurate just as the opposit is happening. It's gawd awful.

I tend to agree with Bozo here. I had the fight 115-113. This was a mirror of the 1st fight, except I believe Hopkins landed the much cleaner and telling blows. It's really sickening to hear Lampley talk about Taylor as opposed to Hopkins. I watched the fight for the first 5 rounds with the sound on, but muted it after I heard Lampley screaming after every jab that landed by Taylor (which wasn't much by the way). I'm going to pay my respect to Hopkins. I think it's time to get out of the game.

I think you don't give Bitchnard enough credit here. Any fighter of any age would have trouble looking good against him. He is definitely something all fighters should aspire to become, and JT is a LONG way from acheiving that. I don't see where you draw any critisism from my post. It was a compliment to Hopkins if anything, but you are correct with the latter half of your post.

If Taylor had so much trouble with a 40 year old Hopkins, I can only imagine what would have happened if he was in with the B-Hop who KO'd Tito, or the one that stopped Glen Johnson.I think you don't give Bitchnard enough credit here. Any fighter of any age would have trouble looking good against him. He is definitely something all fighters should aspire to become, and JT is a LONG way from acheiving that.

You're an idiot, and you make no sense. Taylor didn't set anything up with the jab you idiot. It was mostly followed by missing Hopkins with a right hand, or desperatly trying to grab him. It's very apparent that you're desperatly trying to know what you're talking about, but when you make comments like: "Taylor made Hopkins passive" when Hopkins out threw AND out landed him AND "Jabs don't have to land to be effecftive" :rolleyes: Yes, when they're thrown and landed frequently to set up shots and establish range, that has SOME truth to it, althought it has NOTHING to do with scoring, but in this fight Taylor barely landed a jab, missed with a lot of them, and then missed the follow up right hand or clinched. Meet the ignore list, you and your non sense have wasted enough of my time. I have no patience for that. Holy shit, compubox is ALWAYS correct..and even if it was, Hopkins landed 6 more fucking punches, holy shit now that is a definite landside. Both fighters were passive and if you can't admit that then you truly are a nuthugger.

LOL! Did you ever seem to notice that Hopkins respected Taylors jab a lot more then the last fight? Nope, because your a Hopkins nuthugger. And it's not ALL about landing jabs, jabs are great for setting up big rights or lefts, in Taylor's case his left hook which was causing some damage. Once again I reiterate, it's not all about the landing of the jab as long as it's there and it bothers him enough to set up a power shot then it's fine by me. You're an idiot, and you make no sense. Taylor didn't set anything up with the jab you idiot. It was mostly followed by missing Hopkins with a right hand, or desperatly trying to grab him. It's very apparent that you're desperatly trying to know what you're talking about, but when you make comments like: "Taylor made Hopkins passive" when Hopkins out threw AND out landed him AND "Jabs don't have to land to be effecftive" :rolleyes: Yes, when they're thrown and landed frequently to set up shots and establish range, that has SOME truth to it, althought it has NOTHING to do with scoring, but in this fight Taylor barely landed a jab, missed with a lot of them, and then missed the follow up right hand or clinched. Meet the ignore list, you and your non sense have wasted enough of my time. I have no patience for that.

Hopkins still respected Taylor's jab a lot though. It definitely bothered him.

LOL! Did you ever seem to notice that Hopkins respected Taylors jab a lot more then the last fight? Nope, because your a Hopkins nuthugger. And it's not ALL about landing jabs, jabs are great for setting up big rights or lefts, in Taylor's case his left hook which was causing some damage. Once again I reiterate, it's not all about the landing of the jab as long as it's there and it bothers him enough to set up a power shot then it's fine by me. I thought Taylor's biggest problem was the he wasn't following up his jabs with anything. He was consistently missing when he tried to follow up on his jabs.

Ahh, yes it does. Because the majority of the ones that did land weren't effective because many of them were glancing. You just keep getting worse and worse with some of these comments. Can you please shut up? Everyone has already heard you 1 000 483 285 cents on this topic. We get it - You think Hopkins won... Just go to sleep...you're just getting annoying, you're not doing anymore convincing.

Ahh, yes it does. Because the majority of the ones that did land weren't effective because many of them were glancing. You just keep getting worse and worse with some of these comments. LOL! Did you ever seem to notice that Hopkins respected Taylors jab a lot more then the last fight? Nope, because your a Hopkins nuthugger. And it's not ALL about landing jabs, jabs are great for setting up big rights or lefts, in Taylor's case his left hook which was causing some damage. Once again I reiterate, it's not all about the landing of the jab as long as it's there and it bothers him enough to set up a power shot then it's fine by me.

I think this is more of a problem of Hopkins style than it is of what's actually going on in the ring. Hopkins suffers because he is not flashy. He's sneaky, and he lands counters on the inside. Mind you, I thought he clearly dominated in a few rounds. He slips and blocks punches, and that doesn't count in his favour if the guy that's throwing looks impressive throwing with a lot of power and authority, even when the punches are missing. Don't forget, he's 40. I don't think he could have gotten much more out of his body with how old he is. One thing's for sure: If Taylor had so much trouble with a 40 year old Hopkins, I can only imagine what would have happened if he was in with the B-Hop who KO'd Tito, or the one that stopped Glen Johnson.