I was watching Hopkins-Taylor and realised something....

Damn you guys are beating greatest like he stole something. I'm about to call the police. But as for the topic at hand, Taylor didn't land ONE significant punch in the fight let alone in that flurry. There were some instances in that fight where Taylor's UNEFFECTIVE aggressiveness won him the round, but not in as many as some of these clowns make it out to be. Rounds 3 and 5 (where Hopkins defense and CLEAN hard punches won him the round) are perfect examples. Taylor won 1, 2, 4, 6, 7, 8... Hopkins won 3, 5, 9, 10, 11, 12... The fight SHOULD have been scored a draw but whatever...Hopkins getting jobbed was no surprise.

When one guy throws a lot more punches than the other, even if many miss, it's quite likely the judge will score the round for the more aggressive and busier fighter. Judges have one view of the fight, a different view than the TV ave tvcamera and they don't get instant replay. Sugar Ray Leonard built a lot of his career around throwing flurries of punches that mostly didn't land. That's the way it is. Surely a champion with 20 consecutive successful defenses understands how the fight game works? I agree, they look for quanity rather than quality most of the time. De la Hoya beat Whitiker i think through much of this theory. Maybe a solution would be to have tv monitors at the judges tables so they can see from all angles so to speak. It might help in the judging of a close round, which in hopkin's case might have earned him a draw first time round rather than a loss!

When one guy throws a lot more punches than the other, even if many miss, it's quite likely the judge will score the round for the more aggressive and busier fighter. Judges have one view of the fight, a different view than the TV camera and they don't get instant replay. Sugar Ray Leonard built a lot of his career around throwing flurries of punches that mostly didn't land. That's the way it is. Surely a champion with 20 consecutive successful defenses understands how the fight game works?

You know that part where Taylor throws a bunch of punches and Hopkins goes to the ropes.. Well I was watching the fight and that part came up, then I rewinded and watched it about 8 times(that part) and realised that NONE of those punches even landed on Hopkins.. I have been banging on about this all week. Hopkins is one of the best defensive fighters ever! His subtle moves and motions actually evade 80% of his opponents blows, hence the fact he has been rarely floored or hurt in a fight. Maybe the age and wear resricted his punch output in the July clash but i have a strong feeling Hopkins will pull out a pts win this time round!

I kind of feel bad for Tha_Greatest. You can tell that he is just a young kid who really isn't sure of many of his opinions. He also feels that the best way to counter an argument is to call people names. He is just a really young kid. I think when he grows up in a few years, he could be a pretty valuable member of this site. Right now, not so much.

tha_greatest......you gonna let that or what?

I'm not sure what's worse: The complete ownage Greatest just received.... Or the fact that it took him half a year to actually see that those punches missed.

i've too been watching the first fight alot lately preparing for the rematch and not only is it obvious to the eye, but just look at the punch stats and you'll see how obvious it is that a general number of Taylors punches didn't connect during the fight.

Tha_Greatest, You really need to stop acting like a little bitch. You sent me bad K calling me names, yet there's example after example of you being a flip flopping little punk. You hate on Wlad, yet have several old threads talking about how much you were rooting for him. Rasta's exposure of your love / Hate for Taylor here is even more classic. I wouldn't have a problem with any of this if you didn't run around acting like such a little bitch. You should really remember some of the shit you've been busted with before you run around trying to diss on anyone else. :rolleyes: good post bozo :D

Tha_Greatest, You really need to stop acting like a little bitch. You sent me bad K calling me names, yet there's example after example of you being a flip flopping little punk. You hate on Wlad, yet have several old threads talking about how much you were rooting for him. Rasta's exposure of your love / Hate for Taylor here is even more classic. I wouldn't have a problem with any of this if you didn't run around acting like such a little bitch. You should really remember some of the shit you've been busted with before you run around trying to diss on anyone else. :rolleyes:

lol thats cool rasta is pissing me off fuck off rasta you're on ignore! post whatever the fuckin pothead ass crack fiend. Rasta is alright with me . I think we got into it about something a long time ago . HE is alright with me though.

You are right i dont know you , I just thought i would make the comment about lying on the forum. If i knew for a fact that this forum was full of 100% liars i wouldnt log on to it , or check it daily . lol thats cool rasta is pissing me off fuck off rasta you're on ignore! post whatever the fuckin pothead ass crack fiend.

I don't lie here, actually never have, i joked, but it's obvious, if someone don't believe me I can give a shit, if they do then I still don't care.. I don't lie here, but I don't care what people think about me here because I don't know anyone here and nobody knows me personally... I don't give a shit about anyone here, but I mean, why would u waste your time proving someone else is lying? I come here to speak boxing. If someone pwns me then I can care less, pwning is the downfall of this site. You are right i dont know you , I just thought i would make the comment about lying on the forum. If i knew for a fact that this forum was full of 100% liars i wouldnt log on to it , or check it daily .

at least your admitting that you lied about what? your so fuckin stupid man, fuck off!

I don't lie here, actually never have, i joked, but it's obvious, if someone don't believe me I can give a shit, if they do then I still don't care.. I don't lie here, but I don't care what people think about me here because I don't know anyone here and nobody knows me personally... I don't give a shit about anyone here, but I mean, why would u waste your time proving someone else is lying? I come here to speak boxing. If someone pwns me then I can care less, pwning is the downfall of this site. at least your admitting that you lied

I think it is more of being real thing . You have got to be real . There is no point in believing any argument or post you ever put on a forum , if there is reason to believe that you are not truthful . I mean it is the internet what is the point in lying ??? In the end you are only lying to yourself because you know the truth in your heart . I don't lie here, actually never have, i joked, but it's obvious, if someone don't believe me I can give a shit, if they do then I still don't care.. I don't lie here, but I don't care what people think about me here because I don't know anyone here and nobody knows me personally... I don't give a shit about anyone here, but I mean, why would u waste your time proving someone else is lying? I come here to speak boxing. If someone pwns me then I can care less, pwning is the downfall of this site.

IT'S THE INTERNET !!!!!!!!!!!! None of us know each other!!!! I think it is more of being real thing . You have got to be real . There is no point in believing any argument or post you ever put on a forum , if there is reason to believe that you are not truthful . I mean it is the internet what is the point in lying ??? In the end you are only lying to yourself because you know the truth in your heart .

IT'S THE INTERNET !!!!!!!!!!!! None of us know each other!!!! who cares that you dont know them personally. What your saying show me that you are not the type of person someone should trust not to fuck them over. Your the type of person that when a little old lady asks you were a certain church was because shes lost, you would send her in the wrong direction toward the ghetto. Just for laughs. All because you didnt know her personally.

do you care if your president lies, you dont know him. Thats one of the problems these days. Lying is excused for so many different reasons IT'S THE INTERNET !!!!!!!!!!!! None of us know each other!!!!

holy shyt. someone's workin in an ovatime :Pwnage hurrr.