julian jackson vs felix trinidad @ 154

Coprrection..... Jackson was indeed knocked down by McCallum. McCallum followed a right with a very quick straight left (looked more like a jab than a hook) that dropped Jackson. Jackson was not seriously hurt & got up very quickly. McCallum moved him to the ropes & landed a decent series of blows.....but nothing that should have brought about the stoppage. No one on this board has followed the careers of BOTH as closely as I have. McCallum floored him, period. Still....McCallum was superior to Jackson, especially that very green version. McCallum claims no one in all of his career hit him the way Jackson did in that first round.

McCallum didn't put down Jackson, or ever come close to putting him down. McClellan was the first guy I saw to ever knockdown Julian Jackson. http://www.boxingscene.com/media/data/500/20305McClellen_KO_Jackson.gif ;)

right I was reading my post and I realized something was wrong...

who put jackson down? mccallum and it was a bs stoppage McCallum didn't put down Jackson, or ever come close to putting him down. McClellan was the first guy I saw to ever knockdown Julian Jackson.

tito had a habit of going down early then getting up to ko the other guy. routine stuff :rolleyes: routine stuff? jackson's power is not routine. you need a good defense to beat him or a great chin who put tito down? hopkins, vargas, carr, campas and probably someone I am forgetting... all of which in his prime and none of them is mentioned as an all time puncher. who put jackson down? mccallum and it was a bs stoppage, and McClellan (when jackson was past his prime), whose power is ranked among the hardest p4p punchers ever.

What the fuck are you talking about, bitch? Have you actually seen that fight or are you just another boxrec freak? That was a bullshit premature stoppage, Jackson was stood up perfectly fine and ready to continue the fight. It was a abit of a desperation left hook from McCallum, not even much power to it, and the referee jumped in and stopped it for no apparent reason. Jackson won the first round against McCallum, he looked quicker and sharper than Mike that night and landed the cleaner punches to win round one. Then, Jackson had McCallum out on his feet at the start of round two. your title and signature are a brilliamt comedy duo

jackson couldnt even make it past the 2nd with mccallum What the fuck are you talking about, bitch? Have you actually seen that fight or are you just another boxrec freak? That was a bullshit premature stoppage, Jackson was stood up perfectly fine and ready to continue the fight. It was a abit of a desperation left hook from McCallum, not even much power to it, and the referee jumped in and stopped it for no apparent reason. Jackson won the first round against McCallum, he looked quicker and sharper than Mike that night and landed the cleaner punches to win round one. Then, Jackson had McCallum out on his feet at the start of round two.

And I like Trinidad. Jackson is just bigger, smarter, stronger, tougher.

Seriously, Trinidad is a skinny little punk in comparison to Jackson. He would be KO'd in brutal fashion. Herol Graham style or worse.

Jackson absorbed bombs that Trinidad would never be able to take vs McClellan. I dont where in the f**k your getting Jackson had a notoriously weak chin from. He was stopped by Mike McCallum in 86. Other than that, all his stoppage losses are very late in his career. And his first loss since the McCallum in 86 was the first fight against McClellan in which he displayed punching power, chin, and heart. Jackson always had alot of heart, and if notorious for anything besides his punching power, it was for his heart, always coming back in fights.

just for saying that jackson was tougher than tito, you get bad K, you retard. classic i would of given mckay bad k if i hadnt recently :p tito had a habit of going down early then getting up to ko the other guy. routine stuff :rolleyes:

Jackson hits harder and has a better chin than Trinidad. Jackson is not a weak chinned fighter at all if you watch his fight with McClellan, he ate some insane bombs in that fight. Trinidad would never be able to withstand the kind of shit that Jackson absorbed against McClellan in the first fight. No f**ing chance. And Jackson hits twice as hard as Trinidad. Plus, he has alot of heart. Trinidad has the advantage of speed. Of boxing skill I dont know. Definitely Jackson hits harder and I think is tougher. tito took hard as hell shots from powerpunchers like vargas, hopkins, mayorga, and de la hoya and was only stopped by hopkins who countered tito silly. julian jackson is downright notorious for his horrendously weak chin. jackson couldnt even make it past the 2nd with mccallum, and was destroyed in the 5th and 1st by mcclellan. of jackson's 6 losses, ALL OF THEM WERE BY STOPPAGE. just for saying that jackson was tougher than tito, you get bad K, you retard.

tito had too much power and too strong a chin to lose to jackson, a very very weak chinned fighter. Jackson hits harder and has a better chin than Trinidad. Jackson is not a weak chinned fighter at all if you watch his fight with McClellan, he ate some insane bombs in that fight. Trinidad would never be able to withstand the kind of shit that Jackson absorbed against McClellan in the first fight. No f**ing chance. And Jackson hits twice as hard as Trinidad. Plus, he has alot of heart. Trinidad has the advantage of speed. Of boxing skill I dont know. Definitely Jackson hits harder and I think is tougher.

based on records, tito should win this. but then i aint seen enough of jj so...

tito had too much power and too strong a chin to lose to jackson, a very very weak chinned fighter.

Jackson was a better fighter, a faster one, at 154....then the one we saw at 160. He lost a year+ of his prime, dealing with retinal surgery. As I've said hundreds of times on here.....there has been no harder hitter in the sport's history than he. I have no doubt that should he truly nail Tito...that Tito would be destroyed. But, Trinidad is a better fighter than Jackson. He certainly possessed the power, himself, to take Jackson out. I have to go with the better fighter here, & that's Trinidad. i agree tito is a better boxer overall not as hard a puncher as jackson but sure has enough power to take jackson out ..i go with tito within 6 rnds. in what would be a slugfest and foy candidate...

First guy to land the bomb wins. I'd say Tito lands his left hook in round 1 (watch the Vargas and Joppy fights, LOL) and Jackson is not the same after. Tito wins this one, KO before round 8. Good post...I just don't see Jackson landing anything that hard on Tito (we all know Jackson had insane power, but not every single punch the man landed was a killing stroke). I think Tito might kiss the canvas early in the fight (we all know he's vulnerable to balance KD's and such), but he'd land the heavy shots, more often in the middle rounds of the fight and would take Jackson out inside of 9 rounds. I think 154 was Trinidads most solid weight.

First guy to land the bomb wins. I'd say Tito lands his left hook in round 1 (watch the Vargas and Joppy fights, LOL) and Jackson is not the same after. Tito wins this one, KO before round 8.

Jackson was a better fighter, a faster one, at 154....then the one we saw at 160. He lost a year+ of his prime, dealing with retinal surgery. As I've said hundreds of times on here.....there has been no harder hitter in the sport's history than he. I have no doubt that should he truly nail Tito...that Tito would be destroyed. But, Trinidad is a better fighter than Jackson. He certainly possessed the power, himself, to take Jackson out. I have to go with the better fighter here, & that's Trinidad.

Trinidad wins by TKO in 1-3 rounds