kevin rooney reckons tyson had quicker hands than ali ? .

so you telling me that in his prime, patterson would beat ali? duhhhhhhhhhhh lol! your fuckin dumb. when did i say that. i said his hand speed is quicker if u compare the primes. u were being cool but now your starting to act your age. :eek:

awwwwwwwww cause patterson's prime was already over duhhhhhhhhhh. that was the easiest response ive ever done on boxing scene so you telling me that in his prime, patterson would beat ali? duhhhhhhhhhhh lol!

mystyal, are you on crack? if patterson's hands were faster then how come when they fought the first time, patterson couldn't hit ali and ali was hitting patterson all day? awwwwwwwww cause patterson's prime was already over duhhhhhhhhhh. that was the easiest response ive ever done on boxing scene

juy juy is right floyd pattersons hands were faster then alis. ive seen both of them fight in there prime and patterson beats ali. whenever i watch patterson i forget he's a hw i start to think he's a lightweight cause of his hand speed and small built mystyal, are you on crack? if patterson's hands were faster then how come when they fought the first time, patterson couldn't hit ali and ali was hitting patterson all day?

Carl Williams may have been slightly faster than Tyson, but even that's debatable.

I Believe That Tyson Had Faster Punches But Ali Had The Fastest Straights Ever.

but who the hell say i saw them on tape everytime they mention a old fight. your making a argument out of nothing. and who the hell wouldnt brag about seeing ali like by saying i saw ali in person thats what they would say. come on now lets be mature ;) Your right...sometimes I will argue just to be a dick...I cant help it...asking me to be mature is basically asking me to grow up... Ill think about it.

In your initial post you said you saw Ali and Patterson in their prime...my satire explained/spelled out to you in simple/easy to understand form is as follows... Who the fuck hasnt seen Ali in their prime...who the fuck hasnt seen Patterson in their prime...I got news for you everyone on this site has seen footage of these fellas therfore when you say you saw them in their prime all you needed to do was say I saw Ali vs. Liston or Johansson vs. Patterson on tape. but who the hell say i saw them on tape everytime they mention a old fight. your making a argument out of nothing. and who the hell wouldnt brag about seeing ali like by saying i saw ali in person thats what they would say. come on now lets be mature ;)

i think your confused. who on here is 40 plus that saw the ali, forman and all the greats in person not alot. so why dont u tell your bullshit to the rest of the forum about watching fights on tv that r old. and tell them how they cant evaluate it cause they werent there. that would be almost every member on this site. i dont get what your tryin to say i think your confused. the only reason i made the rooney comment is he thinks tyson is quicker cause he TRAINED THE MAN!!!!. In your initial post you said you saw Ali and Patterson in their prime...my satire explained/spelled out to you in simple/easy to understand form is as follows... Who the fuck hasnt seen Ali in their prime...who the fuck hasnt seen Patterson in their prime...I got news for you everyone on this site has seen footage of these fellas therfore when you say you saw them in their prime all you needed to do was say I saw Ali vs. Liston or Johansson vs. Patterson on tape.

I understand what you meant...if watching on tv years and years later counts I saw JFK in his prime, Hitler in his prime and Mchael Dokes in his prime...Im gonna have to revaluate how I thinks about things now. i think your confused. who on here is 40 plus that saw the ali, forman and all the greats in person not alot. so why dont u tell your bullshit to the rest of the forum about watching fights on tv that r old. and tell them how they cant evaluate it cause they werent there. that would be almost every member on this site. i dont get what your tryin to say i think your confused. the only reason i made the rooney comment is he thinks tyson is quicker cause he TRAINED THE MAN!!!!. o yeah also i never said i saw them live. i saw them on tv like every1 here

thats as in tv. I understand what you meant...if watching on tv years and years later counts I saw JFK in his prime, Hitler in his prime and Mchael Dokes in his prime...Im gonna have to revaluate how I thinks about things now.

evander holyfield had quicker hands then ali..he just didnt jump all over on his toes so it seemed like he didnt

You saw Patterson and Ali fight in their primes...hell you dont look like you are old enough to have seen Bert Cooper in his prime let alone the boys that you mentioned. I guess the avatar is a good diversion, nice work! thats as in tv.

juy juy is right floyd pattersons hands were faster then alis. ive seen both of them fight in there prime and patterson beats ali. whenever i watch patterson i forget he's a hw i start to think he's a lightweight cause of his hand speed and small built You saw Patterson and Ali fight in their primes...hell you dont look like you are old enough to have seen Bert Cooper in his prime let alone the boys that you mentioned. I guess the avatar is a good diversion, nice work!

i am a massive fan but no way prime tyson had quicker hands than ali, prime ali had significantly quicker hands than prime tyson . also remember tyson punched with power punches now every1 knows when u punch with power punches your speed goes down cause your tryin to put alot of force into those punches. but i have seen instances where mike tyson did punch as fast as ali. but ali still did it the most. but remember rooney saw tyson in person and saw the speed in person how many of us can say we saw tyson in his prime in a live fight in person huh?

Floyd Patterson had the quickest handspeed I ever saw for a HW, even quicker handspeed than Cassius Clay's and a young Tyson's. juy juy is right floyd pattersons hands were faster then alis. ive seen both of them fight in there prime and patterson beats ali. whenever i watch patterson i forget he's a hw i start to think he's a lightweight cause of his hand speed and small built

Floyd Patterson had the quickest handspeed I ever saw for a HW, even quicker handspeed than Cassius Clay's and a young Tyson's. Even quicker than a Michael Dokes?

Floyd Patterson had the quickest handspeed I ever saw for a HW, even quicker handspeed than Cassius Clay's and a young Tyson's. What about a young Mike White?

Floyd Patterson had the quickest handspeed I ever saw for a HW, even quicker handspeed than Cassius Clay's and a young Tyson's.

theres different kinda fast hands what made ali so special was that he was a HW with fast hands that flowed the only one ive ever seen that i could argue had serious hand speed as in point A to point B with little to no effort pretty boy floyd How about Camacho or Howard Davis Jr?