1 - Floyd Mayweather Jr. (34-0) Big wins: Corrales TKO10, Castillo UD twice.
2 - Winky Wright (49-3) Big wins: Trinidad UD, Mosley UD, Mosley MD
3 - Marco Antonio Barrera (61-4) Big wins: Morales UD, Morales MD, Hamed UD
4 - Manny Pacquiao (40-3-2) Big wins: Barrera TKO11
5 - Juan Manual Marquez (44-2-1) Big wins: Medina TKO7, Peden TKO10
6 - Jermain Taylor (24-0) Big wins: Hopkins SD
7 - Antonio Tarver (24-3) Big wins: Jones KO2, Jones UD
8 - Jose Luis Castillo (53-7-1) Big wins: Corrales KO4, Casamayor SD
9 - Bernard Hopkins (46-3-1) Big wins: Trinidad TKO12, De la Hoya KO9
10 - Diego Corrales (40-3) Big wins: Castillo TKO10, Casamayor SD
11 - Erik Morales (48-3) Big wins: Barrera SD, Pacquiao UD
12 - James Toney (69-4-2) Big wins: Holyfield TKO9, Jirov UD
13 - Ricky Hatton (39-0) Big wins: Tszyu TKO11
14 - Zab Judah (34-2) Big wins: Spinks TKO9
15 - Rafael Marquez (34-3) Big wins: Austin TKO8, Johnson TKO8
how the fuck do you have Pacquiao ahead of Morales? Why the fuck do you have JMM in the top 10? Barrera, Morales, and Pacquiao are all bottom feeders of the top 10 p4p, none of them should be in the top 5.
1. Mayweather
2. Wright
3. Taylor
4. Hatton
5. Tarver
6. Judah
7. Corrales
8. Castillo
9. Barrera
10. Morales
who cares beyond 10?
morlaes just lost to Zahir Raheem, thats why
judah should not be 6
9 or 10 maybe
and as much as i hate to say it, castillo is rated above corrales
Anybody putting Hopkins above Taylor needs to stop posting on this site permanently. If you can't accept that Bernard lost, boy are you gonna be stuck when the real close decisions come around. I thought Taylor clearly won a close fight. You all just watch boxing another year or 2 and you will see the meaning of robbery, I guarantee that.
1 - Floyd Mayweather Jr. (34-0) Big wins: Corrales TKO10, Castillo UD twice.
2 - Winky Wright (49-3) Big wins: Trinidad UD, Mosley UD, Mosley MD
3 - Marco Antonio Barrera (61-4) Big wins: Morales UD, Morales MD, Hamed UD
4 - Manny Pacquiao (40-3-2) Big wins: Barrera TKO11
5 - Juan Manual Marquez (44-2-1) Big wins: Medina TKO7, Peden TKO10
6 - Jermain Taylor (24-0) Big wins: Hopkins SD
7 - Antonio Tarver (24-3) Big wins: Jones KO2, Jones UD
8 - Jose Luis Castillo (53-7-1) Big wins: Corrales KO4, Casamayor SD
9 - Bernard Hopkins (46-3-1) Big wins: Trinidad TKO12, De la Hoya KO9
10 - Diego Corrales (40-3) Big wins: Castillo TKO10, Casamayor SD
11 - Erik Morales (48-3) Big wins: Barrera SD, Pacquiao UD
12 - James Toney (69-4-2) Big wins: Holyfield TKO9, Jirov UD
13 - Ricky Hatton (39-0) Big wins: Tszyu TKO11
14 - Zab Judah (34-2) Big wins: Spinks TKO9
15 - Rafael Marquez (34-3) Big wins: Austin TKO8, Johnson TKO8
how the fuck do you have Pacquiao ahead of Morales? Why the fuck do you have JMM in the top 10? Barrera, Morales, and Pacquiao are all bottom feeders of the top 10 p4p, none of them should be in the top 5.
1. Mayweather
2. Wright
3. Taylor
4. Hatton
5. Tarver
6. Judah
7. Corrales
8. Castillo
9. Barrera
10. Morales
who cares beyond 10?
Honestly, I think only Oscar de la hoya should be considered the best p4p in a recent list. Thats it. In order to be even in a p4p list you need to fight several quality boxers. You cant be on that list just cause you fight 1 or no GOOD boxers.
1. Mayweather
2. Hopkins
3. Wright
4. Barrera
5. Judah
6. Castillo
7. Pacquiao
8. Rafa Marquez
9. Erik Morales
10. Juan Manuel Marquez
This list is probably a lot what mine would look like. I love Pacquiao, but I would switch him and Morales. I know Morales is coming off a loss and Pacman a win, but I still think P4P he is the better fighter. Pacquiao is more exciting to me, but Morales is better rounded and more complete imo.
Also, Judah might be a little high, but he's got a lot of skill and a lot of nice wins. In terms of the definition of P4P, you put Judah's skills in any div and he should succeed. Since his loss to Tszyu, he's been a more mature fighter. He's finishing guys off and he's fun to watch.
As for other lists, I haven't seen Oscar Larios' name around much. I think he's definetly top 15. It's harder to put him top 10, but around 15 he should be there. Great hand speed and combination skills. He's got 2 wins in wars against McCullough, Nedal Hussein and a TKO against Israel Vasquez. He's basically owned the 122 division for a while now.
I like RunWithKnives list except for Judah. Why is he there? He's only beat Spinx and Spinx wasn't even a top 10 P4P, probably not even P4P 15.
He is the Undisputed Welterweight Champion of the World and is defending his title. I also think he is one of the most dominant fighters in the sport.
Holds solid wins over:
Rafael Pineda
Chop Chop Corley
Omar Weis
Showtime Green
Junior Witter
Jan Bergman
Micky Ward
and the forementioned Spinks.
Spinks was a very good fighter also.
Micky Ward claims he is the best fighter he has ever faced. And is a shoe in for the best fighter on earth.
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This Is my List. What do you think?
1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2. Ronald "Winky" Wright
3. Marco Antonio Barrera.
4. Manny Pacquiao
5. Jermain Taylor
6. Bernard Hopkins
7. Jose Luis Castillo
8. Antonio Tarver
9. Juan Manuel Marquez
10. Diego Corrales
11. Zab Judah
12. Kostya Tszyu
13. Vitali Klitschko
14. James Toney
15. Ricky Hatton
16. Oscar De La Hoya
17. Eric Morales
18. Felix Trinidad
19. Joe Calzaghe
20. Jeff Lacy
good list..but is 12 and 18 still active?..
Barrera...one of my fav fighters...does not deserve to be that high...
He hasn't fought top notch since Morales....and he can't keep getting higher and higher..
I don't have Mayweather #1....I have Hopkins still there because he was ROBBED against Taylor...
I would put Castillo in the top 3 now...
His wins
-Mayweather(ROBBERY!!!!!)
-Juan Lazcano
-Casamayor
-Julio Diaz
-Diego Corrales
you cant call his fight against floyd a win, he lost
1. Mayweather
2. Hopkins
3. Wright
4. Barrera
5. Judah
6. Castillo
7. Pacquiao
8. Rafa Marquez
9. Erik Morales
10. Juan Manuel Marquez
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This Is my List. What do you think?
1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2. Ronald "Winky" Wright
3. Marco Antonio Barrera.
4. Manny Pacquiao
5. Jermain Taylor
6. Bernard Hopkins
7. Jose Luis Castillo
8. Antonio Tarver
9. Juan Manuel Marquez
10. Diego Corrales
11. Zab Judah
12. Kostya Tszyu
13. Vitali Klitschko
14. James Toney
15. Ricky Hatton
16. Oscar De La Hoya
17. Eric Morales
18. Felix Trinidad
19. Joe Calzaghe
20. Jeff Lacy
That is a damn good list.
This Is my List. What do you think?
1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2. Ronald "Winky" Wright
3. Marco Antonio Barrera.
4. Manny Pacquiao
5. Jermain Taylor
6. Bernard Hopkins
7. Jose Luis Castillo
8. Antonio Tarver
9. Juan Manuel Marquez
10. Diego Corrales
11. Zab Judah
12. Kostya Tszyu
13. Vitali Klitschko
14. James Toney
15. Ricky Hatton
16. Oscar De La Hoya
17. Eric Morales
18. Felix Trinidad
19. Joe Calzaghe
20. Jeff Lacy
I think he is the better of the two brothers personally.
I used to not think so....and I have seen both fight on several occasions. Members of this forum convinced me otherwise.
That guy is underrated like hell.
He's kill or be killed...much like Corrales and Cotto (as of late).
He's beaten two all-time great bantamweights, and hes been beating down top 10 challengers ever since.
He arguably has the best power p4p in the sport, and when this guy knocks people out he really knocks em the fuck out (Heriberto Ruiz anyone?)
It's been awhile since he lost...and he should be in a calculated slugfest on Nov. 5th with Silence Booza.
Yes...I meant to throw an R. in there.
I think he is the better of the two brothers personally.
I used to not think so....and I have seen both fight on several occasions. Members of this forum convinced me otherwise.
That guy is underrated like hell.
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Mayweather
Hopkins
Wright
Marquez
Castillo
Barrera
Morales
Pacquiao
Toney
Tarver
Outskirts: Hatton, Corrales, Judah, Taylor
You are referring to Rafa correct?
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1. Mayweather (that might change soon unless he steps up)
2. Hopkins (He was #1 pound for pound but lost a close fight)
3. Winky Wright (Could move up but im not conviced win over Trinidad is that big)\
4. Castillo- Just flatened Corrales and gave Mayweather fits)
5. MAB (should fight pacman and stop being a pussy)
6. Pacman
7. Tarver
8. Corales
9. Morales
10. Taylor
Not everyone's list can be the same..
but this is the most logical list I've seen so far...
I like how you have Hopkins at #2 and not #15
1. Mayweather (that might change soon unless he steps up)
2. Hopkins (He was #1 pound for pound but lost a close fight)
3. Winky Wright (Could move up but im not conviced win over Trinidad is that big)\
4. Castillo- Just flatened Corrales and gave Mayweather fits)
5. MAB (should fight pacman and stop being a pussy)
6. Pacman
7. Tarver
8. Corales
9. Morales
10. Taylor
tis is ta list I'd probably side with.