taylor vs lacy

I guess you need the help of the press, you can't make your own judgment. Oh please don't start i am in a much better mood today...I don't need the press but it just backed up what I already thought 115-113 Hopkins and these guys do this for a living you don't and 90% of the people who vote on polls don't....I would have accepted a draw too but Taylor did nothing to earn that victory IMO.Have a nice day and whether you accept or not I don't care but I am sorry for my part in being a dickhead yesterday.

Yeah, right. That says it all... page 4 post #35....fuck all polls when I saw this in Ring I said to myself o.k. I am not crazy ..I did not see a conpletely different fight...

The man (joppy) had been dominated by two elite fighters previous to his encounter with Taylor and had been brutally KOed by Trinidad. He had no chance in that fight. Lacy however hits MUCH harder than Joppy, has a will to fight, brings A LOT of effective pressure to the table, and is in the prime of his career. Lacy would get to Taylor later in the fight, the only question is...would he be able to do enough damage to take Taylor out? I don't think Lacy would win if it went to the cards. Ok fine, he had no chance of beating Taylor, but my point is about styles and ability. Do you think that Lacy is a better defensive fighter than Joppy? Faster? More technically sound in general? The reason Joppy couldn't put anymore pressure on Taylor than he did is because when he even got close, he got nailed. He couldn't even through a punch while in range without being tagged. Do you think that Lacy is going to be able to maintain a better defense than Joppy while putting more pressure and landing more punches than Joppy did? Because IMO, the first few times he comes in and gets tagged, his pressure is going to drop. Taylor may not have huge power, but he has enough to get the respect of a fighter like Lacy

But that's just what I'm getting at. Joppy is an experienced fighter with good speed. If Lacy could hit Taylor, shouldn't Joppy have been able to? Now, dodn't get me wrong, I still think Lacy is a good fighter and will probably prove to be great at some point, and I'm not really a Taylor fan, as I agree with you that B-Hop probaly would have got him if he had started earlier, and I believe he will get him in the rematch. Actually, I just wish they would fight, because who knows when the Calzage? fight will come off, if it ever does. The man (joppy) had been dominated by two elite fighters previous to his encounter with Taylor and had been brutally KOed by Trinidad. He had no chance in that fight. Lacy however hits MUCH harder than Joppy, has a will to fight, brings A LOT of effective pressure to the table, and is in the prime of his career. Lacy would get to Taylor later in the fight, the only question is...would he be able to do enough damage to take Taylor out? I don't think Lacy would win if it went to the cards.

Taylor doesn't like pressure & that's what Lacy brings from round one till 12. Hopkins proved that had he started earlier he might've KO'ed Taylor. Styles make fights & Lacy's would give Taylor ALOT of trouble because not only does he put pressure on you to make it a dog fight, he's bringing alot more power to the table than Hopkins which means trouble for him. Taylor still is green & besides Hopkins he hasn't had a real tough test. Lacy has had better comp than Taylor besides of Hopkins & would wear Taylor down; especially if he's not prepared for a war that Lacy would bring. But that's just what I'm getting at. Joppy is an experienced fighter with good speed. If Lacy could hit Taylor, shouldn't Joppy have been able to? Now, dodn't get me wrong, I still think Lacy is a good fighter and will probably prove to be great at some point, and I'm not really a Taylor fan, as I agree with you that B-Hop probaly would have got him if he had started earlier, and I believe he will get him in the rematch. Actually, I just wish they would fight, because who knows when the Calzage? fight will come off, if it ever does.

William Joppy couldn't hit Taylor with anything significant, why would Lacy. IMO, Joppy is far superior to Lacy in terms of boxing skills, I don't see how Lacy is going to ko Taylor. And you can't predict the outcome of Taylor vs. Lacy based on his performance against Hopkins. B-Hop has tons of experience, height, reach, and moves very well on his feet when he wants to. He's a completely different fighter than Lacy is. Taylor doesn't like pressure & that's what Lacy brings from round one till 12. Hopkins proved that had he started earlier he might've KO'ed Taylor. Styles make fights & Lacy's would give Taylor ALOT of trouble because not only does he put pressure on you to make it a dog fight, he's bringing alot more power to the table than Hopkins which means trouble for him. Taylor still is green & besides Hopkins he hasn't had a real tough test. Lacy has had better comp than Taylor besides of Hopkins & would wear Taylor down; especially if he's not prepared for a war that Lacy would bring.

William Joppy couldn't hit Taylor with anything significant, why would Lacy. IMO, Joppy is far superior to Lacy in terms of boxing skills, I don't see how Lacy is going to ko Taylor. And you can't predict the outcome of Taylor vs. Lacy based on his performance against Hopkins. B-Hop has tons of experience, height, reach, and moves very well on his feet when he wants to. He's a completely different fighter than Lacy is.

117-111 for b-hop from kim? I like that guy.

With all the bitching from Bitchkins & some of the media, still Taylor wins the polls every single time. Yeah, right.

Taylor is a more skilled boxer than Lacy, but Lacy has shown a lot more patience as of late and swings freely less often. I can see Jermain keeping Jeff at the end of his jab for the first few rounds of the fight. I can also see his superior handspeeed bothering Lacy for a good portion of the fight. Things would change in the later portions of the fight though. Lacy is by far the biggest puncher that Taylor would/will have faced and he brings a lot of pressure for 12 rounds. NOTHING that Taylor is going to hit Lacy with will hurt him. If Hopkins can wear down Taylor and hurt him in the later parts of the fight then so can Lacy. By the 8th or 9th round, Lacy starts to get to Taylor a bit more often with his power shots...and he lands a bomb somewhere in the 10th or 11th that badly hurts Taylor. Lacy is a fucking pitbull when he has his man hurt. Lacy TKO11 Taylor with Taylor ahead on the cards at the time of the stoppage. Taylor would have to fight an excellent fight (unlike his performance against Hopkins) to beat Lacy. He could certainly do it, with his handspeed and superior skills, but this fight carries a completely different dynamic.

i think taylor wins easily... he's a much better overall boxer than lacy

i really like both guys - lacy - how can't you like him w/ his fervor for getting the big fights already and concussive power. taylor is my pick though. outside of his very stated arsenal - hes just an awesome person it seems like and EXACTLY what this sport needs. like scap - i bust blanks just at the thought of it, kinda like i used to for my now defunct cotto/bojado future show down. i see lacy taking the fight to taylor and it being almost too close for comfort for taylor. someone alluded to "if taylor was buzzed by hopkins, then lacy's gonna KTFO!" - that couldn't be more separated from the truth, lacy does not have hopkins style technique so he'll have a hell of a time trying to find taylor w/ something that has pop to it. i like taylor in this very competitive fight - and the fans would win regardless of outcome if these two guys go at it.

Fucker, what?? Again that was not like a 27 years old person post. Later! Have a nice day....We obviously don't see eye to eye today.I am retarded,12 and whatever else you say but back to the real topic...Hopkins beat Taylor and will again and Taylor would be retired early by lacy if they were to fight.Bling Bling as you would say and I am the one who acts 12...LOL

Let it go man. Again you sound like 12 years old, with a retarded post like that. If you acted like a mature person, then you would've received an mature post from me. Alright I will be scared now, if this wasn't the internet. I would've got my ass kicked. LOL! Peace! :bling: You can't read I was fair enough to say one of may have gotten hurt not that I would hurt you.....You are one thickheaded fucker I will say that...I let it go peace to you too.

I'm not trying to get into you guys debate but tossing out that word is almost as bad as using the "N" word. Where I from you don't toss out that word & if you do you better be ready to fight if an African American hears it. Hey it is under his name not mine I don't talk like that I was just fucking with him because he has it up there.he obviouly dislikes this generation of young men who act as though they are something they are not.

I'm not trying to get into you guys debate but tossing out that word is almost as bad as using the "N" word. Where I from you don't toss out that word & if you do you better be ready to fight if an African American hears it.

I don't make a little bitchy thread like that. I could careless who wins a stupid thread like that. You probably care, but I don't give a fuck what someone thinks of me over here. I don't know anyone here, so shit like that don't even bother me. Also your post was retarded & you were acting like an ass. If you gonna act like a little bitch, then don't think I'm not gonna reply back. You must be a wigger, because you just called me one. I guess you didn't like my title. Go chat with your internet buddies, to make yourself feel a little better. Later Wigger :bling: O.K. sorry for being honest and calling a spade a spade I happen to be a grown man 27 yrs of age and frankly do not care what people think either I was just making the point that most people like me here and respect my opinons and I see you on here arguing with people about some gay ass little kids shit hence I know you are a child or little boy at best...have it how you want it you do have that right but my post was legit as was yours we just did not agree I usually do not react like I did to stupid comments but yours was sooo stupid I could not refrain...I am really hung over and in a bad mood today too good thing we are on the internet or one of us could have gotten hurt over this shit.Peace!

I've gotta a question for the both of you. What's a "Wigger"?

No you called everything BS & dumbass post, then you come back with a retarded post. I can't help it, with a statement like that, you are a retard & Dumbass. :bad: you have your right to your opinion hey make a thread about who is more retarded me or you , you will Win by landslide and you know it ....I was cool with you but you started the name calling little bullshit so if you have the balls enough start the thread I know I am the better poster overall.Peace Wigger lover or hater or whatever you are.

You are retard, did you actually say that Sheika hits harder then Bitchkins. LOL! Big difference between Lacy & Taylor, one can box, the other can't. I've seen many fights from both of these guys. Taylor never lost a round in his career, until the Bitchkins fight. We don't have to go back to who won the fight. With all the bitching from Bitchkins & some of the media, still Taylor wins the polls every single time. As for Lacy, he's lost many rounds to bums. Not like Taylor. Taylor is the better boxer, the better chin, hits just as hard & he's much faster then Lacy. I see Taylor jabbing Lacy until the later rounds, then lands a big hook Lacy gets hurt, then taylor finishes him 1,2,3. I like Lacy, but I don't see him beating Taylor. Wrong by a mile but hey at least I did not call you a retard even though you are.Fuck off!!