Barrera is easily one of the greatest "accurate" punchers of all-time

are you comparing PacMan's to raheem's power?? i was sayin that Raheem don't got a killa instinct.

LOL. I still can't get ova that. Motales got fuckin :PWNED by Raheem! If only Raheem had ta killa instinct of Pac, MOrales woulda got KOed! are you comparing PacMan's to raheem's power??

LOL. I still can't get ova that. Motales got fuckin :PWNED by Raheem! If only Raheem had ta killa instinct of Pac, MOrales woulda got KOed!

If Manny's name kept being brought up for every MAB post, whose fault is that?Point your fingers to MAB or to Oscar, whoever, but for sure the blame is on MAB's camp.People dont want to see MAB fight bums!He keeps saying that he had an off night, that it wasnt the real Barrera that fought last Nov 2003.And owing to his stellar resume, a lot of people actually believe his excuses.Instead of clearing his name(just like all the greats do) and prove that Pac's victory was a fluke, he is fighting nobodies and steering clear of Manny....Boxing fans, especially PAC fans are tired of hearing his excuses.So whenever MAB' name comes up, PAC fans are sure to follow and taunt... ;P

Yeah umm that's why he is his sparring partner, this is probably what happens all the time when they spar only difference this time is they're in front of a crowd. okay, and what's the point of your post here?

Actually it will be far more than that. It will put MAB in a whole new world of serious and sick pain, plus he will probably leave in a stretcher. lol! I saw the Peden fight. OMG! MAB was just damn SOOOOO slow. He can't KO a noob like Peden? Man! Peden was more like a kid. No power, no speed, weak stamina and yet MAB didn't KO him. Pathetic. When MAB faces PAC again, PAC will make him taste his very sick hooks, awkward uppercuts, straights and 4-5-6- combinations. And MAB will bet on his life he will kiss the canvass. PAC will tear off his head. lol! okay first off, you obviously another biased opinion just by looking at your screen name.. second, there's no way you saw the fight last night if you think Barrera was slow. To start, Peden is not a "noob". He didn't match the skills that Barrera had but he had heart and is like a rock. I'm sick of hearing that Pac would "KO" him by 3-4 rounds cause i guarentee that wouldn't happen given how tough Peden proved he was. It's obvious you have all confidence in Pac and all you're trying to do is sway people from what actually happened last night. It's really a joke.

Watching Peden do whatever it was he was doing, gave me a vision of a frog being bisected in a lab by a pathologist-- except that the frog would, perhaps, have made a better fight of it. With his back near the ropes or on them, Peden took combinations on his face, and, replied by offering it for more. I would have thought that a fighter who has gone up to being the IBF champ would offer some kind of better response. Fighters who never even got to be world contenders have been known to do so. No question that whatever Barrera does for the next years of his life, his ring legend will endure in the minds and hearts of many, including me--for whatever my sentiments may be worth. But, the Peden fight-- probably, through no fault of Barrera--cannot be more than what it was--a destruction with the cooperation of the victim. How else can one view a refusal to counter-punch? What other take can one have given the unheeded pleas of his corner to show more offensive industry? How can one comprehend not only a lack of defense but a refusal to have even a semblance of it; offering instead his head on a silver platter? For MAB to go to Lightweight, with his size and natural weight (he climbed the ring at 133 to Peden's 143) is like taking on the bigger boy of another neighborhood while having an unfinished business with the boy next door (who's a shade less than his size) for probably a lesser reward. I must be daft; I can't see any sense in that. :rolleyes: :)

greatest accurate punchers of all-time ? naw he is no James Toney

what the hell PEDEN was thinking!!!!!he understimate barera with his low left hand defense if you call it a defense!!!!

What I've seen in the Fana and Peden fights was that Marco could not have picked better opponents if he'd called Central Casting. Fana was floored many times by an unheralded Filipino fighter before earning a crack at Barrera (he won a controversial W), while Peden is a Barrera gym mate, and appeared to have gone up the ring with twin purposes in mind-- to be hit (he offered up his face for more every time Barrera hit it), and not to hit (Compustat figured he averaged a mere 7 punches landed per round and close to none of them damaging, although he was the naturally bigger and stronger fighter!) To boil over with praises for Marco based on the last two performances is at best, pre-mature. So would huffing and puffing over Manny's win over Velasquez (though, concededly, Velasquez is the best of the three). Velasquez is nowhere near MAB, Morales and Marquez. Manny's win over Velasquez, to me, is simply that: a win over Velasquez; a spectacular one, one must admit, but no more, no less. The only way to know for sure what would happen in a rematch between MAB and Manny is to stage that rematch. It's strange though that it seems to have been never mentioned as a strong possibility by commentators and analysts in the Peden-MAB fight. Instead, a MAB-Chavez fight for the Lightweight crown that Junior had just won was the one dangled. Strange, indeed... But then, stranger things have happened in this sport...:rolleyes:

Barrera is GOD. what makes pac if barrera is god?

You from Oakland?! I'm from Sac...oak/sac same shit! Fuck Frisco! ....Oakland and Sacramento arent the same, and arent even in the same fuckin county, or even within 100 miles from each other. Oakland is a ghetto shithole (that i live in) with little to no siginifigance in the bay area other than its the shitty opposite of San Francisco. Sacramento has very few parts that even resemble anything like the shittyness of oakland. You say "fuck frisco" but Sacramento has little signifigance these days other than the Kings choking every year, and the fact that its the capitol city.

Fuck!! I read half of this thread's title, and it's already a spoiler!! Fuck you, they should make rules about thread's like this! You from Oakland?! I'm from Sac...oak/sac same shit! Fuck Frisco!

how is Pac not relevant when discussin Barrera and his possible next fight? Because what you have to say about it is biased, predictable, boring, and tired.

how is Pac not relevant when discussin Barrera and his possible next fight? not that, but saying "pac would have beaten this fool in 4" during the rd by rd is annoying in any case, just let it go

someone who keeps bringing up their favorite fighter when discussing another fighter's victory, when it's really not relevant. When all you do is talk about how great your fighter is and how much greater he is than another fighter...shit like that how is Pac not relevant when discussin Barrera and his possible next fight?

define nuthugging? cuz to me, it's when sumbody believes his fav is gonna win despite ta huge odds that ta opponent is gonna whoop him. example: A fan of JCC Jr thinkin that he beats Cotto right now. Or Vargas fans not seeing that Vargas is as shot as 50 cent's face 9 times. someone who keeps bringing up their favorite fighter when discussing another fighter's victory, when it's really not relevant. When all you do is talk about how great your fighter is and how much greater he is than another fighter...shit like that

Fuck!! I read half of this thread's title, and it's already a spoiler!! Fuck you, they should make rules about thread's like this! The auto response to this kind of non sense: If you don't want to know the result of a fight that's been over for hours, why come into a BOXING forum?

Fuck!! I read half of this thread's title, and it's already a spoiler!! Fuck you, they should make rules about thread's like this! Why would u come to a boxing forum if u didnt wanna know the results?

i'm not hating, Pac's a great fighter and a true warrior, but some of this nuthugging gets out of hand. define nuthugging? cuz to me, it's when sumbody believes his fav is gonna win despite ta huge odds that ta opponent is gonna whoop him. example: A fan of JCC Jr thinkin that he beats Cotto right now. Or Vargas fans not seeing that Vargas is as shot as 50 cent's face 9 times.