Boxingscenes Top10 P4P on pg.1

What do people think about this list 1. Floyd Mayweather - Former junior lightweight champion, former lightweight champion, current junior welterweight belt holder. Floyd takes over the number one spot after a lackluster performance from Bernard Hopkins. Blazing fast hands and is untouchable on defense. Floyd never ran from a challenge and has performed at his the best in his biggest fights. Biggest wins: Diego Corrales TKO 8, Genaro Hernandez TKO 8, Jose Luis Castillo W 12 2. Erik Morales - Former junior featherweight champion, former featherweight champion, former junior lightweight champion. Morales is a tall rangy boxer with a great amount of skill, but his downfall has always been his willingness to abandon his boxing skills and get drawn into slugfests. He bounced back after suffering the most depressing loss of his career in his third fight with Barrera by gaining the most satisfying win of his career with a twelve round clinic of Pacquiao. He is the classic Mexican warrior and that's why fans love him. Biggest Wins: Daniel Zaragoza KO11, Marco Antonio Barrera I SD, Manny Pacquiao UD 3. Rafael Marquez - Current Bantamweight Champion. Keeps moving up the list not because of dominating performances, but because everyone in front of him keeps falling. One the hardest punchers pound for pound in the sport. He is finally coming out from the shadow of his older brother Juan Manuel. Rafael can box with the best of them, but he has the power to blast them out as well. Some insiders feel that his chin is suspect and he can be hurt by big punchers. Biggest wins: Mark Johnson TKO 8, Tim Austin TKO 8 4. Manny Pacquiao - Former flyweight champion, former junior featherweight champion, former featherweight champion. Pacquiao has won over many fans in the last two years with his straight ahead let it all hang out style. A murderous power puncher with extremely quick hands oh yeah and he's a southpaw to boot. Some one-dimensional flaws were exposed in his fight with Juan Manuel Marquez. Erik Morales followed up on what Marquez uncovered and out boxed Pacquiao in their meeting. Pacquiao is still very young and seems willing to learn his trade. Trainer Freddy Roach will make sure he continues to grow as a fighter. Biggest wins: Marco Antonio Barrera TKO 11, Lehlohonolo Ledwaba KO 6 5. Bernard Hopkins - Former undisputed middleweight champion of the world. Ruled his division for a decade and made a record 20 title defenses, but all of that came to an end against Jermain Taylor on 7/16/05. The majority of viewers agree that it was more of Hopkins losing the fight than Taylor winning it. Hopkins did not throw enough punches for the first four rounds and that ended up costing him the fight. He doesn't fall far considering when he did actually start letting his hands go, he was in control of the fight and had Taylor in serious trouble on more then one occasion. The rematch will answer a lot of questions. Biggest wins: Felix Trinidad TKO 12, Oscar De La Hoya KO 9, Antwun Echols TKO 10 6. Winky Wright - Former undisputed junior middleweight champion. Up until last year, Wright had a reputation for coming up short in his big fights, but he seems to have broken through with his win over Trinidad. Wright put on a clinic against Shane Mosley to become the undisputed junior middleweight champion. Proved he was the real deal with a dominating performance against Felix Trinidad. Biggest wins: Shane Mosley 1 Win 12, Felix Trinidad Win 12 7. Marco Antonio Barrera - Former Junior Featherweight Champion, Former Featherweight Champion and now Current Super Featherweight Champion. Just when you think Barrera is done he comes out like a madman and proves he's still world class material. Barrera is a classy counter puncher who can also go toe to toe with the best of them. Every time he has been beaten, he has only comes back stronger and better. Biggest Wins: Erik Morales III MD, Kennedy McKinney TKO 12, Naseem Hamed UD 8. Juan Manuel Marquez - Gifted counter puncher and about as well schooled a fighter as there is in boxing. Showed plenty of heart by rallying back after being knocked down three times in the first round against Manny Pacquiao and going on to outbox Pacquiao for most of the fight. Biggest wins: Manuel Medina TKO 7, Robbie Peden TKO 10 9. Diego Corrales- Former Junior Lightweight Champion, Current Lightweight Champion. Arguably the hardest puncher pound for pound in the sport. Since hooking up with Dan Goossen, his boxing skills have improved ten fold. His chin is still suspect, but his power and heart make him a threat to beat anyone regardless of how much trouble he's in during the bout. Biggest Wins: Roberto Garcia TKO 7, Acelino Freitas TKO 10, Jose Luis Castillo TKO 10 10. Antonio Tarver- Current Light Heavyweight Champion. A look at Tarver's record shows that he is 2-2 in his last four fights, but you have to look deeper than that. Most people think he won his initial meetings with Roy Jones and Glen Johnson. Tarver would go on to score clean victories in both rematches. A tall lanky boxer/puncher who sometimes tends to coast rounds, but when he decides to step it up and actually fight he has the skills to beat anyone from middleweight to light heavyweight. Biggest Wins: Roy Jones KO 2, Glen Johnson UD, Eric Harding TKO 5

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bro you are wrong again.....tszyu didn't lose his other belts in an earlier fight, but rather whilst he was injured............keep in mind that tszyu destroyed 2 highly regarded and possible future hall of famers on his way to unifying the division.... when i talk about titles, i talk about world titles mate, not usba titles ok......so yes hopkins, in winning the usba title won his first title before tszyu..lol like i said, hopkins won his first title (of course i mean world title) at his third attempt........and that was a vacant title..keep that in mind...and he only unified the division in 2001..... tszyu defended less due to injuries, but tszyu's opposition is and was superior in comparison to hopkins'.........we all know this.....hopkins has a few good wins, and many wins over lightly regarded opponents....... most of tszyu's opponents were world champions, former world champions, future world champions, or very highly regarded opponents..... Very good post. :cool:

20y ago

moochi

He was beaten soundly in a mixed decision with a lot of people having mixed views? Wow, you're brilliant. Hopkins won his first belt 2 years before Tsyzu, and held all of his titles up until his most recent bout, while Tszyu had lost the belts in an earlier fight, and even lost to Hatton several months before Hopkins lost to Taylor. Hopkins went on (post RJJ) to defend his titles 26 times in a row. Tszyu held onto his titles (post Phillips) 13 times. Tszyu will have a harder time getting into the hall of fame if he doesn't have another meaningful win in my opinion. bro you are wrong again.....tszyu didn't lose his other belts in an earlier fight, but rather whilst he was injured............keep in mind that tszyu destroyed 2 highly regarded and possible future hall of famers on his way to unifying the division.... when i talk about titles, i talk about world titles mate, not usba titles ok......so yes hopkins, in winning the usba title won his first title before tszyu..lol like i said, hopkins won his first title (of course i mean world title) at his third attempt........and that was a vacant title..keep that in mind...and he only unified the division in 2001..... tszyu defended less due to injuries, but tszyu's opposition is and was superior in comparison to hopkins'.........we all know this.....hopkins has a few good wins, and many wins over lightly regarded opponents....... most of tszyu's opponents were world champions, former world champions, future world champions, or very highly regarded opponents.....

20y ago

Dirt_E_Gomez

20y ago

moochi

Pfffft. Hopkins held the belts for much longer, and then he lost the belts in a very close decision which could have gone either way for him. Tszyu was tko'd and was soundly being beaten in the bout. wrong bro......hopkins was soundly beaten........no doubt about it and he lost to himself.... tszyu was beaten in, too many many, controversial circumstances..... ...and hopkins did not hold the belts for "much longer"....wrong again.....tszyu was world champion before hopkins was, when he challenged the champion in Jan 05....... hopkins got his first title at his third shot after challenging the same opponent for the "vacant title" twice....the first challenge he was taken out by jones jr in 93, and then he fought mercado for the vacant title twice (as the first fight was a draw)... hopkins first unified belts in 2001....and in my opinion, fought lowly ranked opposition ever since..... tszyu in my opinion, is a legend and if he were american, you guys would be nuthugging him as much as you do the other yanks..... no offence, but it is true about you guys discarding foreigners...

20y ago

Dirt_E_Gomez

i still don't understand you YANKS.....you always keep Bernard Hopkins in the list, yet you don't include Tszyu.........Hopkins and Tszyu both lost their long term domination of their respective divisions...... so what is the reason for this? is it because you guys support your own so much, and once a foreigner loses 1 bout, that you just spirt him out... shame on you YANKS. Pfffft. Hopkins held the belts for much longer, and then he lost the belts in a very close decision which could have gone either way for him. Tszyu was tko'd and was soundly being beaten in the bout.

20y ago

moochi

20y ago

czars_salad

Wright-Boring as hell. A jab just doesn't do it for me. And the peek-a-boo defense is gay. i agree.... especially with the boring issue :D

20y ago

Manny_P

Ok, enough of Manny_P's talk. This is what it actually should look like in Normal Language Hahahahahahaha. Out of all the fighters on the list, ONLY PACMAN entered the BUILDING rightfully. He fuckin' smothered Barrera into smitherins who was P4P #3 on many lists at that time! Only Pacman just bulldozed his way to the list NO arguments. It sucks that Mayweather...Hopkins..... become #1 just because the top guy lost! Roy Jones lost....Hopkins become #1! WHY?????HOW????? For beating Robert Allen? Hahahahahaha. what a joke. Mayweather becomes #1, WHY???? HOW???? Becuz he beat the amazing Arturo Gatti who he been sayin is a class C bum??? Nope. Because Hopkins LOST! Fuckin' lame. Don't criticize Pacman no more bitches because unlike all these people on the list, PACMAN HAS The MOST IMPRESSIVE VICTORY AND BEATING OF A HIGHLY RANKED P4P FIGHTER IN BARRERA! Get the uck outta here! Hatton won against Tszyu in a very close fight (his 1st win gainst a quality foe), COOL! Corrales won against a NON P4P fighter in Castillo IN A CLOSE FIGHT. COOL! Winky won against a non ranked P4P (not even top 15) fighter against Tito, COOL! Judah won against Spinks who wasn't in P4P ranking, COOL! ONLY PACMAN HAS THE MOST IMPRESSIVE WIN AGAINST A TOP GUY ON that P4P list. It's a fuckin stupid thing to omit Pacman on the top 10 lists either, whoever's shit list was that I saw. There...isn't that much better Manny? ya, but it's so much werk to that. I like ma own shyt.

20y ago

Tha_Greatest9502

RAFAEL MARQUEZ SHOULD SWAP POSITIONS WITH WINKY WRIGHT... PACQUIAO SHOULD CHANGE PLACES WITH B-HOP... JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ SHOULD TRADE RANKS WITH THE TOP 20... :D Yeah, Marquez aint top 10 right now, hes not fighting anybody worth mentioning, Theirs plenty of active fighters who deserve that spot more than Juan

20y ago

Bahamut_Zero

What do people think about this list 1. Floyd Mayweather 2. Erik Morales 3. Rafael Marquez 4. Manny Pacquiao 5. Bernard Hopkins 6. Winky Wright 7. Marco Antonio Barrera 8. Juan Manuel Marquez 9. Diego Corrales 10. Antonio Tarver RAFAEL MARQUEZ SHOULD SWAP POSITIONS WITH WINKY WRIGHT... PACQUIAO SHOULD CHANGE PLACES WITH B-HOP... JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ SHOULD TRADE RANKS WITH THE TOP 20... :D

20y ago

BLOODSHED

Mayweather is very defensive minded, but he's also trying to knock you out. Winky, I can't say the same for. So I guess every defensive fighter has to fight like Mayweather :rolleyes:

20y ago

Memorex

winky has never really gone for a ko in his career but who cares , if u could beat the shit out of some1 like tito for 12 rounds u dont need a ko. winky deserves to be in the top ten

20y ago

Tha_Greatest6475

But there is a BIG difference between Hopkins and Wright. Hopkins has good defense, smart and actually goes in for the kills. In addition to having the record in title defenses. Winky beat Mosley (blown up. Shell of himself) and Tito who was exposed by Hopkins. You need to box Tito and not slug it out like Joppy did and like Mayorga. I'm not saying Winky is bad, but he just doesn't impress me. People talk about his defense, but he has nothing defensively on Mayweather. And Winky's offense (his jab) just doesn't do it for me either. Also, Winky doesn't have the reflexes, natural ability, speed, etc that Mayweather has or Roy Jones. So I guess every defensive fighter has to fight like Mayweather :rolleyes:

20y ago

Tha_Greatest9502

Erik Morales and Winky Wright belong in any top 10 P4P.

20y ago

BLOODSHED

20y ago

Tha_Greatest6475

This is my opinion. I'm entitled to my opinion just like OldGringo has his. p4p lists aren't based on opinion... p4p is based on facts... you might not like watchin Hopkins or Wright but whether you like it or not, they are top p4p fighters..

20y ago

BLOODSHED

This is my opinion. I'm entitled to my opinion just like OldGringo has his.

20y ago

BLOODSHED

While watching the fight, I was thinking either Morales or Barrera will stop this and start putting up a defense. Nope, it didn't happen. They kept sluggin.

20y ago

Tha_Greatest6475

mnash, quit makin a fool out of yourself..

20y ago

BLOODSHED

Mayweather said it too, it wasn't just me. That's not the kind of a fight I like, especially if I'm going to call the fighter pound for pound. My favorite fighter of all-time is Pernell Whitaker. Most boring fighter to watch for many people, but not me. I thought he was exciting and loved watching him work. Quit with the defense lectures kid. What you aren't thinking about, is that lesser fighters in that division would have been outta there fighting the forms of Morales and Barerra that fought that night. They were by far and away the best in the division. It's not like these guys are unskilled brawlers, so I don't see what you are trying to say by "they are forgetting defense". That fight was one of the best fights in the history of the sport, it's ridiculous that you're even trying to pick it apart. Horrible analogy.

20y ago