VK Lovers/Haters Listen Up...Sanders Victory Is Underated!

This is why Byrd was already loosing 7 out of 9 rounds when he fought an INJURED Vitali. Yes, Byrd will UD in a rematch. And this is why Brewster was Wlad's punching bag for 5 rounds, until he ran out of gas trying to finish him. You're a genious! like it was coming out of my own mouth. great post.

Here at BS we have VK lovers and we have VK haters, we have kool aid drinkers who could see VK humping a kitten in an alley after getting KO'd by Frans Botha and they would still find a way to defend him. On the otherside of the coin you have similiar kool aid drinkers who watch his war with Lennox Lewis and refuse to give him any credit what so ever for the loss, sure it was a loss but it was one helluva a performance by VK, sure his face let him down but he was as game as any HW in the division could have been against the champ...yet there are many who talk about this loss like he was iced in two rounds. Now, I hear a lot of bad mouthing VK for his win over an out of shape Corrie Sanders? Yes Corrie was out of shape and did not intend to fight for 12 hard rounds but did that matter? What did Corrie care about? Well, many experts in the division before the fight took place stated that Sanders had the heaviest hands in the division, if he landed the left hand any fighter in the division was going to be in trouble. Well Sanders decided to test that theory and sit back waiting on VK so he could counter with the left hand and counter he did, he scorched VK with the left many times and stunned him a few times. Vk survived every big left hand, showed a very good beard as he did in the Lewis fight and showed unlike his little brother that there is no panic in him when he gets caught. I can think of some other HW's who would not have taken Sanders's left hand half as well, can you? Sanders is an athlete as we all know and I dont give a fuck who he fights chances are he will find a way to land the left, unfortunately for Corrie he fought a guy that could take the left and keep fighting...Sanders was not anticipating this. So when people rag on VK for beating an out of shape Sanders I think they are being too negative. Corrie fought his fight, he landed his big left a number of times and he thought that was going to be enough just like it was enough against Wlad. How many southpaws are in this division? How many southpaws who are as athletic as Corrie and who punch as hard as he does exist in this division? The win was not a great win but it certainly showed me a lot in terms of VK, he can take a punch, he knows how to recover, he is resourceful and patient etc. He is not yet the king that many think he is but he is not the dog that many make him out to be either, the jury is still out but when watching him fight Corrie Sanders if you refrain from drinking the kool aid it is not hard to see some very positive signs from the big guy. Now if we could only get him in the ring! candidate for best quote ever

hasim rahman took it a few times..........and came back to win a stoppage.

Not sure. I really wouldn't say its an easy win for VK to fight Byrd or Brewster. I think Byrd has a good shot at winning a decision over him. Brewster would K.O. that big robot.This is why Byrd was already loosing 7 out of 9 rounds when he fought an INJURED Vitali. Yes, Byrd will UD in a rematch. And this is why Brewster was Wlad's punching bag for 5 rounds, until he ran out of gas trying to finish him. You're a genious!

wow, the guy has been out for a whole 8 months thanks to injuries... 8 whole months, geezus.... byrd hasnt fought in 9 months and he hasnt been injured at all... No one really cares to see Byrd fight. He's past his prime and a boring fighter to watch to the casual boxing fan. Vitali is the #1 HW and everyone knows it.

Not sure. I really wouldn't say its an easy win for VK to fight Byrd or Brewster. I think Byrd has a good shot at winning a decision over him. Brewster would K.O. that big robot. I even think Rahman has a good chance of KO'ing him despite his horrible effort last weekend.

Not sure. I really wouldn't say its an easy win for VK to fight Byrd or Brewster. I think Byrd has a good shot at winning a decision over him. Brewster would K.O. that big robot. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

Chris Byrd, John Ruiz, Lamon Brewster. All three and they must have the belt at the time he fights them. And do they want to fight him? :eek:

Yeah, the thing I hate about Vitali Klitschko is that he uses his right hand AND his left hand in the boxing ring... I mean COME ON!! WHO DOES THIS GUY THINK HE IS!?? next thing you know, he's going to start trying to "dodge punches" HAHA :D This stuff is too funny! K+

Really, who does he have to fight in order for you to stop bashing his competition? . Chris Byrd, John Ruiz, Lamon Brewster. All three and they must have the belt at the time he fights them. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

THE TRUTH and the rest of you.. Who do you want Vitali to fight? Really, who does he have to fight in order for you to stop bashing his competition? BTW There are two reasons there aren't any unification fight.. 1 - DON KING 2 - WLAD KLITSCHKO King want's to keep his options open... More champs, more championship fights to promote. Vitali doesn't want to unify as he wants to keep title options for Wlad open.

I dont think VK panicked, he was stunned and settled down nicely, he needed to fight cautiously from the outside because Sanders sat back with the left cocked and waiting. Im telling you most HW's in the division if not all would not have eaten the left as well as VK did, sure he looks uncoordinated stumbling around but I do n ot believe he was ever seriously hurt. I think you do make a point about how the fight was blwon out of porportion...this is in contradiction to the point that I made which was the win was underated. It is possible in my eyes that the fight may have been overhyped when it took place but as time has gone on the win has been slowly but surely undervalued... It was not a great win but it was not a piss poor who gives a fuck win like some are suggesting. I agree. It wasn't bad or piss poor win but a decent win against a game fighter. Sanders just went into the fight having only KO on his mind & when he didn't get it & early, he was finished.

VK's win over Sanders was blown way out of proportion. The guy was in semi retirement & he exposed Vlad. This is the same Sanders that got stretched by none else than Rahman & he was a lot closer to his prime then & was in ALOT better shape. Even in the 1st round of that fight VK panicked when he got wacked with a straight left. His eyes were as big as a crack-heads about to smoke some rock. He backed off & genuinely looked scared as hell & decided to box from the outside & tire the old man out & move in when he got tired. I dont think VK panicked, he was stunned and settled down nicely, he needed to fight cautiously from the outside because Sanders sat back with the left cocked and waiting. Im telling you most HW's in the division if not all would not have eaten the left as well as VK did, sure he looks uncoordinated stumbling around but I do n ot believe he was ever seriously hurt. I think you do make a point about how the fight was blwon out of porportion...this is in contradiction to the point that I made which was the win was underated. It is possible in my eyes that the fight may have been overhyped when it took place but as time has gone on the win has been slowly but surely undervalued... It was not a great win but it was not a piss poor who gives a fuck win like some are suggesting.

VK's win over Sanders was blown way out of proportion. The guy was in semi retirement & he exposed Vlad. This is the same Sanders that got stretched by none else than Rahman & he was a lot closer to his prime then & was in ALOT better shape. Even in the 1st round of that fight VK panicked when he got wacked with a straight left. His eyes were as big as a crack-heads about to smoke some rock. He backed off & genuinely looked scared as hell & decided to box from the outside & tire the old man out & move in when he got tired.

Yeah, the thing I hate about Vitali Klitschko is that he uses his right hand AND his left hand in the boxing ring... I mean COME ON!! WHO DOES THIS GUY THINK HE IS!?? next thing you know, he's going to start trying to "dodge punches"

My problem with VK is he hasn't done anything to prove any greatness. He beat an old out of shape Corrie Sanders and two journeymen. Anytime he has stepped up he has lost. His biggest win was a loss to Lennox Lewis and he lost to Chris Byrd. Thats doesn't sound great to me, if he beats Rahman I will give him credit. I agree with this guy.I will give him credit when he beats SOMEBODY his biggest win was his loss to Lennox which I might add was imminent cut or no cut and Lennox was out of shape and looked worse than ever so a really good performance against Rahman and I will give him his cred where it is do.

If he just walks near a boxing ring I'll praise him as the new jesus christ. wow, the guy has been out for a whole 8 months thanks to injuries... 8 whole months, geezus.... byrd hasnt fought in 9 months and he hasnt been injured at all...

hmm My problem with VK is he hasn't done anything to prove any greatness. He beat an old out of shape Corrie Sanders and two journeymen. Anytime he has stepped up he has lost. His biggest win was a loss to Lennox Lewis and he lost to Chris Byrd. Thats doesn't sound great to me, if he beats Rahman I will give him credit. Vitali hasn't proven "greatness". No one should say that. But it's reasonable to say he is the best heavy right now and that he is a "good" fighter. Kirk Johnson and Danny Williams weren't the best fighters around, but Kirk Johnson mentally collapsed and was a very talented guy (NOT a journeyman). It is important to note that Vitali was smacking Byrd around until he threw his shoulder out. Truth, you do know that Vitali messed his shoulder up from beating on Chris Byrd, right? Ok then. If you haven't given him credit yet for what he HAS done, how can you give him credit for beating RAHMAN? That makes no sense. An out of shape Corrie Sanders is more dangerous than whatever version of the current Rahman that Klitschko will face. Klitschko has a guaranteed win over Rahman so I guess you better affirm his greatness now. Beating Rahman does not make you great. However, when you beat guys the WAY Vitali has beaten them, and when half the time haters pick him to lose vs these guys (eg Sanders), then you should be considered good. Decent. And that's good enough to be the best at heavyweight right now.

The point of my thread was that any HW who fought Corrie Sanders was going to get their chin seriously checked by a southpaw who will crack anyone he is in with. This was not an easy fight as some suggest and the out of shape Sanders would have given anyoine else in the divisin hell and VK handled him pretty easily based upon his ability to eat power shots. Dont discredit this performance that is all Im saying.

My problem with VK is he hasn't done anything to prove any greatness. He beat an old out of shape Corrie Sanders and two journeymen. Anytime he has stepped up he has lost. His biggest win was a loss to Lennox Lewis and he lost to Chris Byrd. Thats doesn't sound great to me, if he beats Rahman I will give him credit. but ppl wanted him to fight williams, its the guy who beat tyson vs the champ n shit.... n whos the two jounryemann?........IMO he woul've beaten lennox if the fight had gone on. and byrd, well his arm got fucked up. no one wants to fight vitali EXCEPT rahman, and hes going to lose. DKP does't let any fighters fight vitali because then hell lose one of his titles