Dodger's 30 greatest heavyweights of all time

Im stupid? YOu have Rocky Marciano at no.1, you should be labeled the village idiot for that one. Not to mention Tyson would've eliminated him in a matter of rounds if they fought, and to add he fought a bunch of losers, and the only outstanding name on his record was Louis, who came out of retirement at age 39 to vs him. Being the youngest heavyweight champ with 10+ title defenses along with names such as SPinks, Holmes, Ruddock, Golota, Bruno, Tucker, Seldon, and Nielsen, definately merits you to be ahead over fighters that you listed. What you want to tell me that Frazier dempsey liston and Lewis achieved higher succes than Tyson? Other than Foreman who became the oldest heavyweight champ you have nothing on Tyson. Not to mention you have Liston ahead of Holmes!!!!!!! Holmes had 20 title defenses and an undefeated record up to 48-0, not to mention has Ali (Past his prime though), Norton, and two hand fulls of top ten conteders on his list, and you rank Liston above him? ok, here we go again. Another noob thinking he knows whats up. Micheal spink when he fought tyson was an old 37, holmes was 39, Ruddock wasnt that good, golota has been beat by brewster, ruiz, grant, and lewis. any time he fought a top heavyweight he lost. Bruno never steeped up as a fighter and took on top talent. Tucker just like most you named never fought top notch guys. Seldon lost to tony tubbs. WHO? exactly. Not to mention a less then motivated Mccall. Nielsen like wise was a push over. As for Marciano, when he fought Louis, louis was the same age as spinks, and two years younger then holmes when tyson beat them. He also took on the top of his time. And the guys he didnt fight didnt wanna fight him. He dispatched of Moore, Charles, Lastarza twice, Jersey Joe walcott twice, Harry Matthews, and rex layne. All of which were considered by most then to be class A fighter. Tyson on the other hand has Never beaten a true Class A Heavyweight. Every time he has stepped up he has been violently knocked back down. He couldnt beat a already worn and battered Holyfield. Tyson was nothin more then a average skilled fighter. All he ever had was power and speed. He could bomb on a Prime Frazier, Marciano, Holmes, Ali, Liston, and he still wouldnt win. Because the one thing all of those fighter have in common is that they werent afraid to go past three like tyson is. Especially Ali. He could hit him 10 rounds straight and then get KTFO in the 11. Tyson doesnt belong in the top 15 of all time. He dominated a EXTREMELY Soft HW division. Just remember, just cause you go to boxrec, and dont recognize a lot of names from the old school, doesnt mean they werent any good. The only reason why you say he is better is because he is a modern day fighter and you dont know shit about boxing History

My list: Ali Louis Holmes Foreman Marciano Johnson Holyfield Frazier Lewis Dempsey Tyson Patterson Jeffries Charles Tunney The last 5 were harder for me. I feel like Floyd should be higher than Tyson, but I just don't know.

but saying Marciano is the best heavyweight when he never fought any heavyweights is completely retarded. This thread is filled with more than just a little bit of retardation, so there's no point in singling out that one guy.

16. Primo Carnera Wow.

Dude you got tyson ahead of Foremen, frazier, dempsey, liston, and Lewis. you also got bowe above tunney, stribling, and patterson. So how in the hell is that concrete. GODDAMN YOUR FUCKIN STUPID. Im stupid? YOu have Rocky Marciano at no.1, you should be labeled the village idiot for that one. Not to mention Tyson would've eliminated him in a matter of rounds if they fought, and to add he fought a bunch of losers, and the only outstanding name on his record was Louis, who came out of retirement at age 39 to vs him. Being the youngest heavyweight champ with 10+ title defenses along with names such as SPinks, Holmes, Ruddock, Golota, Bruno, Tucker, Seldon, and Nielsen, definately merits you to be ahead over fighters that you listed. What you want to tell me that Frazier dempsey liston and Lewis achieved higher succes than Tyson? Other than Foreman who became the oldest heavyweight champ you have nothing on Tyson. Not to mention you have Liston ahead of Holmes!!!!!!! Holmes had 20 title defenses and an undefeated record up to 48-0, not to mention has Ali (Past his prime though), Norton, and two hand fulls of top ten conteders on his list, and you rank Liston above him?

enayze defend your list.

an absurd list, having vitali at 19!!!!!! every time he has stepped up thus far, he has lost, he hasent come close to proving himself a true champ yet, if hes 19, you need to have the man who dominated him, byrd on the list. also, berbick and rahman???? do you really think somoeone should be considered top 30 all time based on one fight? If dominating means getting your ass beat for 9 rounds than I agree.

Heres a more concrete top 15 list Ali Louis Holmes Holyfield Tyson Foreman Lewis Marciano Johnson Jeffries Frazier Dempsey Burns Liston Bowe Dude you got tyson ahead of Foremen, frazier, dempsey, liston, and Lewis. you also got bowe above tunney, stribling, and patterson. So how in the hell is that concrete. GODDAMN YOUR FUCKIN STUPID.

why do so many people put Rocky and lennox lewis so high its stupid Ali Louis Foreman Holmes Johnson are the top 5 heavyweight and should always be there period and btw id put foreman at 2 if he didnt lose to jimmy :( Were stupid yet your name is Sturm Rules. wow now who's stupid.

Heres a more concrete top 15 list Ali Louis Holmes Holyfield Tyson Foreman Lewis Marciano Johnson Jeffries Frazier Dempsey Burns Liston Bowe

Ali, Louis, Foreman, Dempsey, Lewis, Holyfield, Frazier, Johnson, Holmes, Norton would be my order of the greatest heavyweights of all time top ten. That "Vitali Klitschko" at 19 was really laughable man. I think that was your intention though. How can you not include Rocky Marciano?? but you have Norton and Lewis on there?

1. Muhammad "The Greatest" Ali: 55-5 2. Joe "The Brown Bomber" Louis: 68-3 3. George "Big" Foreman: 76-5 4. Rocky "The Brockton Blockbuster" Marciano: 49-0 5. Jack "The Mannasa Mauler" Dempsey: 62-6-9 6. Sonny Liston: 50-4 7. Larry "The Easton Assasin" Holmes: 69-6 8. Gene "The Fighting Marine" Tunney: 62-1-1 9. Floyd Patterson: 55-8-1 10. Evander "The Real Deal" Holyfield: 38-8-2 11. Lennox "The Lion" Lewis: 41-2-1

Ali, Louis, Foreman, Dempsey, Lewis, Holyfield, Frazier, Johnson, Holmes, Norton would be my order of the greatest heavyweights of all time top ten. That "Vitali Klitschko" at 19 was really laughable man. I think that was your intention though. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

god damn stop putting lennox lewis in the heavyweight top 10 list he sucks!!!

Top 15 in order: Ali, Louis, Foreman, Holmes, Frazier, Liston, Marciano, Johnson, Lewis, Charles, Dempsey, Schmeling, Holyfield, Jeffries, Tunney

I think when people rate the all time heavyweights they need to rate them in terms of p4p, just like todays p4p rankings. The division is totally different today therefore you need to ask yourself p4p who were the best heavyweights ever rather than thinking Lennox Lewis was 245 and Ezzard Charles was under 200. Guys like Walcott and Charles are undervalued, they were p4p much better fighters than a Lennox Lewis was therfore they have to be rated higher, at least in my book.

Why is Marciano on the list at all?Was he a heavyweight?No unless being 180 pounds makes you heavyweight.Did Marciano fight heavyweights?No unless fighter other 180 or so pounds makes you a heavyweight.The man isnt a top 100 heavyweight because he isnt a heavyweight.Dempsey isn't or Jack Johnson. here is my list in no particular order. Ali Foreman Frazier Lewis Bowe Holmes Norton Lyle Holyfield Hmmm there are other fighters like Tua or Vitali that could be up there but please peaople learn what a heavyweight is.180=cruiserweight beating other 180 pound guys meant you beat other cruiserweights.It is like putting Roy Jonse on the list because he beat some light heavyweights and then beat Ruiz. u cant say that cause the weight limits were diff back then, Rocky would lsoe to just about everyone in the top 10 all time list with ease he is an overrated joke

why do so many people put Rocky and lennox lewis so high its stupid Ali Louis Foreman Holmes Johnson are the top 5 heavyweight and should always be there period and btw id put foreman at 2 if he didnt lose to jimmy :(

I think Michael Dokes should be somewhere in the 25-30 range.

an absurd list, having vitali at 19!!!!!! every time he has stepped up thus far, he has lost, he hasent come close to proving himself a true champ yet, if hes 19, you need to have the man who dominated him, byrd on the list. also, berbick and rahman???? do you really think somoeone should be considered top 30 all time based on one fight?