"He's a dirty fighter," says newly crowned undisputed middleweight champion Jermain Taylor of former champ Bernard Hopkins. "I can't respect that. If you're going to beat me, beat me right. Don't hit me below the belt or hit behind the head or head butt. It's unnecessary. If you can fight, you can fight." Jermain says he feels like he did enough to win, but he's openly critical of his own performance. "I made a lot of mistakes in the fight...I was chasing him around...I wasted a lot of energy...I was rushing my punches...I threw a lot of wild shots...I did get a little winded in those later rounds." The champion says he will correct those faults. "I learned so much," he stated. "Next fight it's not even going to be close....I give this man no respect at all, because I know in the rematch it will be different. I know I can beat him."
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I don't get your point. Are you saying Hopkins fights dirty because he fights better opposition? That makes no sense. If he can't fight clean, he can't fight! You're basically saying that Taylor is so good that he doesn't need to fight dirty and that Hopkins has to fight dirty to win most of his fights. You must be forgetting that Hopkins hasn't exactly fought Grade A opposition, similar to Taylor. The difference is that Taylor BEAT Hopkins, albeit a slim margin. I just don't want people to take credit from Taylor, he did EXACTLY what he was supposed to do. He outworked and outboxed the boring Hopkins for most of the fight. When u fight someone with Hopkin's style, you have to outwork him, because all he does is sit there and counterpunch. You people are acting like only a KO of B-Hop would make you think Taylor is worth anything!
I apologize, I'll reiterate my point more clearly. Hopkins has fought twice as many fights as Taylor, so I was partially suggesting he's had many more opportunities to, so obviously it will seem like he has done it more often.
Now as for your post... outworked? Yes. Outboxed? Hahahahah, now that's laughable. Compare the punch stats for each round and look at the damage done to both fighters and come back and tell me who outboxed who. I'll help you with the answer, Hopkins outboxed Taylor. Taylor can win a decision to be considered better than Hopkins, but the last fight was far too close to say he won much. He can have fun as the champ until Hopkins takes it back most likely.
You wont hear the commentators disagree because they want him to lose. Down with boring and old Hopkins. Up with new and exciting Taylor. Taylor also hasn't needed to fight dirty if you look at his opponents. He's dominated virtually every fight he's been in. Take a look at his last when he fought in the undercard for Hopkins.... he didn't have time to fight dirty if he wanted to.
I don't get your point. Are you saying Hopkins fights dirty because he fights better opposition? That makes no sense. If he can't fight clean, he can't fight! You're basically saying that Taylor is so good that he doesn't need to fight dirty and that Hopkins has to fight dirty to win most of his fights. You must be forgetting that Hopkins hasn't exactly fought Grade A opposition, similar to Taylor. The difference is that Taylor BEAT Hopkins, albeit a slim margin. I just don't want people to take credit from Taylor, he did EXACTLY what he was supposed to do. He outworked and outboxed the boring Hopkins for most of the fight. When u fight someone with Hopkin's style, you have to outwork him, because all he does is sit there and counterpunch. You people are acting like only a KO of B-Hop would make you think Taylor is worth anything!
I agree that both fighter fought dirty. If anything Hopkins brought it out of Taylor though. Hopkins is universally known for being dirty. Watch some of Taylor's other fights, he is NOT a dirty fighter. I can point to several of Hopkins fights where he fights dirty. Taylor basically gave him a dose of his own medicine. Why does Hopkins get an excuse, because he's good at it and practices it every fight? You Hopkins fans are sinking fast in the eyes of most on here. The only people bitching about the outcome of the fight are Hopkins and his "loyal" fan club. You don't see the casual fan or even commentators(who usually start all this kind of shit) complaining.
You wont hear the commentators disagree because they want him to lose. Down with boring and old Hopkins. Up with new and exciting Taylor. Taylor also hasn't needed to fight dirty if you look at his opponents. He's dominated virtually every fight he's been in. Take a look at his last when he fought in the undercard for Hopkins.... he didn't have time to fight dirty if he wanted to.
I think you are overstating how dirty he was in the fight. You want a dirty Hopkins fight then watch him against Echols.
Jermain Taylor was holding plenty of times himself and hit Hopkins behind the head in one round.
I hate to admit it, your sig is right. I've gone 0-2 in my last two big time fights and my predictions are aren't coming through. Fuckin Ouma and Hopkins.
I agree that both fighter fought dirty. If anything Hopkins brought it out of Taylor though. Hopkins is universally known for being dirty. Watch some of Taylor's other fights, he is NOT a dirty fighter. I can point to several of Hopkins fights where he fights dirty. Taylor basically gave him a dose of his own medicine. Why does Hopkins get an excuse, because he's good at it and practices it every fight? You Hopkins fans are sinking fast in the eyes of most on here. The only people bitching about the outcome of the fight are Hopkins and his "loyal" fan club. You don't see the casual fan or even commentators(who usually start all this kind of shit) complaining.
I think you are overstating how dirty he was in the fight. You want a dirty Hopkins fight then watch him against Echols.
Jermain Taylor was holding plenty of times himself and hit Hopkins behind the head in one round.
I hate to admit it, your sig is right. I've gone 0-2 in my last two big time fights and my predictions are aren't coming through. Fuckin Ouma and Hopkins.
LOL. jest predict that Pac KO Velasquez in 2 rounds then you'll be on Ma Who Hot list fo sho.
I dint think the fight was REALLY dirty aswell. I'm jest basin it on what Tayler has said as he was the one in the ring wit Hop. And personally I think boxing shoulnt have room fo dirty cheat tricks as it is already an ugly sport in itself.
im sayin tis plain and simple. Why does Beranrd have to be dirty? I know it aint the worst, but goddman, try to beat Tayler WIT SKILLS, NOT DIRTY TRICKS. that's one of ta reason Hopkins got sum haters around the werld. It's bad enough that he got a legacy by beatin small fightas, but he is puttin himself in a worse spot by cheatin in fights aswell. Fuck, why do sum people like him? No logic at likin him at all. nyhahahahaha. Unless sum guys here are Hopkins-Obsess, nyhahahahahahaha.............HA!
I think you are overstating how dirty he was in the fight. You want a dirty Hopkins fight then watch him against Echols.
Jermain Taylor was holding plenty of times himself and hit Hopkins behind the head in one round.
I hate to admit it, your sig is right. I've gone 0-2 in my last two big time fights and my predictions are aren't coming through. Fuckin Ouma and Hopkins.
then tis tells me one thing.
You like cheating in real life aswell. nyhahahahahahaha. Cheating = No Good.
Hopkins + Cheating < Tayer's skills and heart!
Bending the rules and cheating are two large things. That's why there's a ref, so he can determine which is which. This is why he gives warnings and keeps the fight in order. No points were deducted and no time was taken to allow a figher time after a low blow. Relatively clean fight. Cheating in real life? Relationships, guilty as charged.
then tis tells me one thing.
You like cheating in real life aswell. nyhahahahahahaha. Cheating = No Good.
Hopkins + Cheating < Tayer's skills and heart!
Pacquaio+ you =gay
"He's a dirty fighter," says newly crowned undisputed middleweight champion Jermain Taylor of former champ Bernard Hopkins. "I can't respect that. If you're going to beat me, beat me right. Don't hit me below the belt or hit behind the head or head butt. It's unnecessary. If you can fight, you can fight." Jermain says he feels like he did enough to win, but he's openly critical of his own performance. "I made a lot of mistakes in the fight...I was chasing him around...I wasted a lot of energy...I was rushing my punches...I threw a lot of wild shots...I did get a little winded in those later rounds." The champion says he will correct those faults. "I learned so much," he stated. "Next fight it's not even going to be close....I give this man no respect at all, because I know in the rematch it will be different. I know I can beat him."
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I don't like Taylor after hearing that...
Bernard doesn't have to do anything except stay black and die. He chooses to fight slightly dirtier than most because he can. In most sports people find ways to bend rules in their favor, boxing is no different. If Hopkins really used dirty tricks, he would've decked Taylor at least once when he turned his back to him.
then tis tells me one thing.
You like cheating in real life aswell. nyhahahahahahaha. Cheating = No Good.
Hopkins + Cheating < Tayer's skills and heart!
im sayin tis plain and simple. Why does Beranrd have to be dirty? I know it aint the worst, but goddman, try to beat Tayler WIT SKILLS, NOT DIRTY TRICKS. that's one of ta reason Hopkins got sum haters around the werld. It's bad enough that he got a legacy by beatin small fightas, but he is puttin himself in a bad spot by cheatin in fights aswell. Fuck, why do sum people like him. No logic at likin him at all. nyhahahahaha. Unless sum guys here are Hopkins-Obsess, nyhahahahahahaha.............HA!
Bernard doesn't have to do anything except stay black and die. He chooses to fight slightly dirtier than most because he can. In most sports people find ways to bend rules in their favor, boxing is no different. If Hopkins really used dirty tricks, he would've decked Taylor at least once when he turned his back to him.
Actually, at 40, Hopkins is in his PRIME. It's funny how everyone said Hopkins would win easily and when Taylor wins a SD, they talk about how Taylor is overrated, etc. I actually had it scored 115-113 UD for Taylor. I think Taylor should appeal to the commission about that 116-112 scorecard in favor of Hopkins. That's 8 rounds to 4 for Hopkins!! If Hopkins won 8 rounds of that fight, I would admit it, but there's no way in hell that happened. Hopkins lost, please get over it.
In terms of strategy and boxing skills he's in his prime, but you can't say he's in a better physical condition now than he was 5 years ago. I am curious about the 116-112 scorecard, since I couldn't see it going past 116-113 for Hopkins.
So you were suggesting their fight wasn't fair? That there was a lot of dirty hits? The headbutt was far from dirty. It was clearly an accidental headbutt, but Hopkins probably could have avoided it at the last second if he felt he had to. Oh, and thank you for allowing me the honor of being the first person with negative reading comprehension.
im sayin tis plain and simple. Why does Beranrd have to be dirty? I know it aint the worst, but goddman, try to beat Tayler WIT SKILLS, NOT DIRTY TRICKS. that's one of ta reason Hopkins got sum haters around the werld. It's bad enough that he got a legacy by beatin small fightas, but he is puttin himself in a worse spot by cheatin in fights aswell. Fuck, why do sum people like him? No logic at likin him at all. nyhahahahaha. Unless sum guys here are Hopkins-Obsess, nyhahahahahahaha.............HA!
Yeah, so...Hopkins showed, at 40, he has more boxing skill and speed then Taylor has in his prime. Taylor won on sheer youth and energy, and when that begins to fade by the time he's 30 or so, he'll be beat by just about any of the younger guys coming up with an amount of talent.
He isn't the next big thing...he's just another good boxer...not great.
Actually, at 40, Hopkins is in his PRIME. It's funny how everyone said Hopkins would win easily and when Taylor wins a SD, they talk about how Taylor is overrated, etc. I actually had it scored 115-113 UD for Taylor. I think Taylor should appeal to the commission about that 116-112 scorecard in favor of Hopkins. That's 8 rounds to 4 for Hopkins!! If Hopkins won 8 rounds of that fight, I would admit it, but there's no way in hell that happened. Hopkins lost, please get over it.
Also, Taylor may not be great(he's only 26 remember?) but people sure do praise Hopkins for his greatness. Why? Because he defended for 12 years against guys not even in Taylor's league? Because he has the ferocity to give us some of the most boring middleweight fights in 20 years? I don't get it. Taylor is the best he's fought since Roy Joens and it showed.
then I have to say that you have readin comprehension of a -2 yr old. nyahahaha. I said if Tayler and Hop fights fair, (means no dirty headbutt, lowblows and shyt that Hopkins always does) Tayler WOULD WIN EAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Neva said he won that fight wit eaze you moron. I prove ma point. Now getta fuck outa ma thread cuz yer intelligence don't belong here.
So you were suggesting their fight wasn't fair? That there was a lot of dirty hits? The headbutt was far from dirty. It was clearly an accidental headbutt, but Hopkins probably could have avoided it at the last second if he felt he had to. Oh, and thank you for allowing me the honor of being the first person with negative reading comprehension.
Hey Manny P I made your list! HAha nice.
gotta give props to peeps who did good predictions of tis fight and who are intelligent aftawards nah mean? You definitely HOT right now. Keep it up. LOL!
Congratulations on proving that you've got the education and reading comprehension of a ten year old. I didn't mention the 12th, nor had any intention of doing so. My point was simple. You can believe Taylor won the fight, I have no problem with people believing that. However, if you're going to make a preposterous statement that "Tayler" had an "Eazy" victory. Oh, and if you're saying Hopkins only won 2 rounds then you've either never watched the fight or are blind.
then I have to say that you have readin comprehension of a -2 yr old. nyahahaha. I said if Tayler and Hop fights fair, (means no dirty headbutt, lowblows and shyt that Hopkins always does) Tayler WOULD WIN EAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Neva said he won that fight wit eaze you moron. I prove ma point. Now getta fuck outa ma thread cuz yer intelligence don't belong here.