This is where I don't like the 10 point must system a whole lot. Bernard landed more punches, period. He also landed more EFFECTIVE punches, too. He even had Jermain hurt, twice. Jermain never hurt Bernard, but still won a majority of the rounds because he was the aggressor. I think some judges need to decided what is more important. The more effective punches being thrown and landed or being the more aggressive person in the fight.
Compubox had Hopkins landing at a higher percentage and more punches overall. The only category Hopkins didn't win was the jab but he didn't fight using the jab as his primary weapon.
Bernard Hopkins has been my favorite fighter for a while. (Ever since I really started to get into boxing.) I agree with what the first two judges scored the fight. I believe that Hopkins won a few rounds and Taylor won a few rounds, but how the third judge scored the fight was way wrong. Everyone knew that Hopkins won the 12th round except for ONE judge. If that judge would've scored the 12th round for Hopkins, it would have been a draw. And that's how I think the fight should've been scored.
the question is, did hopkins did enough in rounds 9-12 to win it? im curious how compubox recorded the punches thrown & the punches landed of both fighters. if hopkins should have been the winner, it's not going to be a 116-112, i think it should have been 115-113 or 115-114.
Compubox had Hopkins landing a higher percentage. I can't remember if it had him landing more overall punches, but it was pretty close, if not.
How the hell can people be saying Taylor won the fight. If a 26 year old can't dominate a 40 year old guy, he can't win. Even if Taylor/Hopkins happens again, and Taylor gets another gift, he won't be a 10th of the champion that Hopkins has been for the last 10 years.
Hopkins showed he was every bit as fast, at 40, as Taylor is in his prime. In 5 years, people won't even know who Taylor is.
He's overrated.
I believe it could have been called 7 rounds to 5 for Hopkins or a 6-6 split. It was close but personally I thought Hopkins stole a round early (which would be disputed) and the 5th round was his as well was 8-12.
That's exactly how I thought it went. I had BH winning an early round with counter-punching. Taylor was more aggressive, but he looked sloppy...kind of the "matador/bull" thing that BH talked about pre-fight.
Does that mean you think Hopkins won?
I believe it could have been called 7 rounds to 5 for Hopkins or a 6-6 split. It was close but personally I thought Hopkins stole a round early (which would be disputed) and the 5th round was his as well was 8-12.
Watch it through without the commentary, I have noticed when I watch fights with sound especially if it is on HBO I will be a bit more biased. However, when I watch it with audio off I see and notice a lot more.
This was true for me when DLH fought Hopkins, I watched it with sound on and gave DLH quite a few rounds but I watched it numerous times with the sound off and I had Hopkins winning a bit more rounds before the stoppage.
It pisses me off that the HBO crew doesnt call a lot of the shots from a fighter they dont want to win. I know the judges probably cant hear them but it makes it seem more biased that way.
It is mainly lampley who does it and his voice overcasts the rest of the crew. Jones/Merchant/Bernstein would be a golden team.
Does that mean you think Hopkins won?
I had it 115-113 for Taylor but I was biased because I was listening to hbo commentary and looking at the Lederman card. I would have loved for it to be a draw cause than I would have won 22mil from vbookie :D
Watch it through without the commentary, I have noticed when I watch fights with sound especially if it is on HBO I will be a bit more biased. However, when I watch it with audio off I see and notice a lot more.
This was true for me when DLH fought Hopkins, I watched it with sound on and gave DLH quite a few rounds but I watched it numerous times with the sound off and I had Hopkins winning a bit more rounds before the stoppage.
It pisses me off that the HBO crew doesnt call a lot of the shots from a fighter they dont want to win. I know the judges probably cant hear them but it makes it seem more biased that way.
It is mainly lampley who does it and his voice overcasts the rest of the crew. Jones/Merchant/Bernstein would be a golden team.
There's already a poll up HERE
I was going to sticky it but didn't have enough points.
I saw that one, but I didn't want to take the time to add up the different questions to see who thought who won :)
I had it 115-113 for Taylor but I was biased because I was listening to hbo commentary and looking at the Lederman card. I would have loved for it to be a draw cause than I would have won 22mil from vbookie :D