I honestly wouldnt be surprised if this was Mayweathers next fight. They have been talking about fighting eachother for the longest.
I have said many times on here that Margarito is exciting to watch but is one of the most overrated fighters in boxing and that Floyd would kill him. I was saying this when Floyd was at 135 and Margairto was the champ at 147 who no one wanted to fight and everyone said I was crazy but I still stand by it.
Here is why I think this could be the next fight. Who else can Floyd fight? 140 has been shakened up and the only 2 guys he can fight is Cotto and Hatton. I dont think neither Frank Warren or Arum is ready to put it on the line against Floyd yet. It's to big of a step up for Cotto and the fight would be bigger if they wait. With Hatton it could be a money problem with the 2 networks and I think they might want a softy after the Tszyu fight. Chico would get killed again.
Floyd could fight Witter or someone like that but he said he wants big money PPV fights and none of those guys will bring that and they are high risk - low reward fights so he will probally have to move up. Zab is his best friend in boxing and King and Arum dont get along. They also wouldnt give those 2 the type of money that they think they deserve. Oscar said he wont fight Floyd and he's not fighting any time soon any way. However I do think that if Floyd keeps winning on PPV that Oscar would come back to fight him for a huge money fight.
That leaves Margarito and Mosley. Actually Mosely had slipped my mind and that may be a more reasonable fight but Mosley is with Golden Boy and Oscar and Arum dont get along alot. Margarito is with Top Rank so it would be much easier. Also like I said they have been talking about eachother. Floyd was going to jump straight from 135-154 to fight him as a tune up to Oscar but DLH said he wont fight him so the fight backed off. Margarito is getting more popular every fight and he has a huge race following so I think it could be a decent PPV and Arum would make alot of money thats why I think it is reasonable.
Who wins? I pick Floyd by a late stoppage
It's a lame excuse because he already trashed the goddam guy before he refused the fight, don't you see that? As as said thing just goes in circle.
If you're a true boxing fan it's not going to be hard to understand that a belt holder like Margarito doesn't have to prove himself to fight other famed fighters, especially with the fact the he has his belt longer than PBFs or Baldomir.
Now whose ridiculous?
You need to understand that Floyd has simply stated that Margarito has NEVER beaten anyone worth discussing and that when he does, Floyd will be more than happy to accomodate him with a fight. Basically what it boils down to is that Margarito got his name by calling Floyd out, not by beating quality opponents. When Margarito proves himself in the ring (like Baldy) he will get his fight with Floyd. Don't forget Margarito won a vacant belt and has defended against nobodies. Floyd has said when they do fight (after Margarito earns it) then the fight will be much bigger and more valuable. It doesn't matter if Margie has a title or not, he is not going to increase PBF's legacy or his wallet more than another fighter. PBF is earning just as much $ and will be beating the undisputed WW champ. Beating an unproven champ for a WBO belt vs. Beating the undisputed champ and getting the WBC belt? No brainer.
Make it short, you're back to the lame excuse. In your view Margarito doesn't deserve the fight. PERIOD. :p
Ali? Let me point to you the difference. :) Oh hell yeah, to promote the fights. Did Ali ever trashed somebody and later on refused the fight. When you promote the fight, you start the trash talking when the fight is already confirmed.
I've been saying that. I don't see how its a lame excuse if its true. People bash PBF for fighting "nobodies", but that is exactly what Margarito is. This is a guy trying to fight Hall of famers and getting bashed for that. I don't understand how you can't see how ridiculous this is. If Floyd said he loved sunshine some people on here would hate the sunrise.
Nah what you don't understand is PBF being the no 1 p4p fighter should act just like one. He should be acting with pride and dignity, not with careless arrogance.
If he doesn't intend to fight the other guy he could have just said "maybe later" or something else. END OF STORY!
But NO, he trashed the other guy to the ground and insulted him
to the max and then later on made LAME EXCUSES to avoid a fight with him. And the best part is, his the goddam dick suckers here in this forum is blindly trying to justify this bullshit. :p
How PATHETIC. SHAME on your no 1 P4P fighter. That title doesn't mean shit anymore because of PBF's undignified acts.
You understand what I'm saying dude?
Floyd promotes his fights. Why does Terrell Owens and Chad Johnson get more attention than Marvin Harrison, Torry Holt, etc? Because they run their mouths and get into fans emotions. PBF is promoting. He does not lose this battle one way or another. If Margarito loses, then Floyd says "see he couldn't beat quality opponents" if Margarito earns his shot and Floyd beats him he adds another quality win. There is no reason for PBF to fight Margarito until he is a more recognized name. Most of the great boxers have been shit talkers. Do you hate Ali? Hopkins?
Make sense? Well PBF doesn't make sense either. Hell yeah he wants the other guy to fight quality oppositions, who are they? The fighters listed as his challengers? The guy is title holder for Crist sake, what's wrong with you people. Stop justifying PBFs bullcrap! That's right you have to beat the best to be the best and that's exactly why the guy wanted PBF, and guess what? PBF simply doesn't want it. It's that simple.
Why will he eat his won bullshits? :) PBF keeps insulting and degrading Margarito, picturing the guy as a low life good for nothing fighter who doesn't deserve to fight him., So what will change in Margrito if PBF fights him later? Can anybody answer that?
If he fights him later, he'll be fighting the same Margrito whom he has insulted, degraded and trashed. :D That's why I'm insinuating that this fight might never happen anymore. Now wake up and learn to read between the lines.
Use your brains people!
If he fights Margarito later it will be a Margarito that actually beat a worthy opponent. What YOU need to understand is that PBF is the P4P champ and can fight whoever the hell he wants. DLH, Mosley, and Hatton all give PBF a victory over a hall of famer and a ton of money. Margarito (right now gives him a victory over an unproven fighter, which is exactly what you people are bashing him for. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.
Well I'm upset too because BLIND fans like you never stop sucking PBF's dick. :D
STFU Pac's Boy Toy. Tell your boyfriend stop fighting retread opponents over and over again
This is the part that gets me upset with guys like phsycopath.
They always like to throw out crazy shit like, "Even if Margartio beats Wlad, Floyd wouldnt fight him". Like Margarito has such a great resume already. He hasnt beaten anyone. Floyd said for him to beat someone and you guys are saying "if he beats Wlad", like Margarito has done so much.
If Floyd told Winky, Shane, or Oscar to go beat someone then you could say that. Then you could say that Floyd is a joke and they would have to beat Wlad but you damn sure cant say that about Margarito who hasnt had one decent fight
i understand what u r saying but y fight people like bruseles and mitchell. there are people wayyy more deserving than them and they r not getting their shot. either way u look at it its all bullshit.
You don't make much sense. PBF told Margarito to beat some quality opposition to earn his shot. If Margarito beats some good fighters, then PBF fights him how is that eating his own bullshit? You have to beat the best to be the best, not just call them out.
This is the part that gets me upset with guys like phsycopath.
They always like to throw out crazy shit like, "Even if Margartio beats Wlad, Floyd wouldnt fight him". Like Margarito has such a great resume already. He hasnt beaten anyone. Floyd said for him to beat someone and you guys are saying "if he beats Wlad", like Margarito has done so much.
If Floyd told Winky, Shane, or Oscar to go beat someone then you could say that. Then you could say that Floyd is a joke and they would have to beat Wlad but you damn sure cant say that about Margarito who hasnt had one decent fight
Let me cut this bullshit short. Nah I don't think so. Pbf's excuse is an excuse of a lifetime. Margarito doesn't deserve him. So even if Margarito fights and wins against Wlad :p I don't think Mayweather will agree to fight him.
If PBF does, then again he'll be eating his own bullshit.
You don't make much sense. PBF told Margarito to beat some quality opposition to earn his shot. If Margarito beats some good fighters, then PBF fights him how is that eating his own bullshit? You have to beat the best to be the best, not just call them out.
How the hell did you find this old thread? Anyways, you cant be serious? Floyd just beat the guy who was the Undisputed Champ i Zab and now he's fighting the guy who is now the Undisputed Champ in Baldmorie. You sound so funny trying to put Margarito's name in with the likes of Oscar, Winky, or even Hatton for that matter who has legitimate wins over Tszyu and Callazo.
Ill ask you this: What has Margarito done to be considered the man at 147? Who died and made him the King? Who died and said that everything has to go through him? Margarito doesnt have one big win, he's not rated in the top 2 at WW by the Ring, he has a fake belt that he didnt get from the Champ and only has because it is vacant, he just lost 2 fights ago, and he has a milliong guys calling him out but is settling for guys like Clottey. What makes him the man over Baldy who just beat 2 legitimate guys and the real WW champ? What makes him more legitimate over Callazo who has beaten everyone including Rivera and alot of people thinks he beat Hatton. You could argue that Margarito is no different then Mesquita who is undefeated and has a belt. What makes Margarito the man over him? Floyd meanwhile has beat Zab and is going to fight Baldy for the real title.
Also I will tell you like I tell others. You guys make me sick when you bring up names like Oscar & Hatton when Floyd has tried forever to fight Oscar, Hatton, & Mosley. All 3 of them very recently have publicly turned him down but the haters never want to talk about that and act like they dont even acknowledge it. One thing you cant argue against is that Floyd has put in work throught his career but Margarito hasnt. You guys never want to answer the question of why doesnt Margarito have to fight anybody? He can live his whole life by calling out Floyd and doing nothing else? You guys act like he's the only one who's called out Floyd. A million guys do but 99% of them arent worthy and he is in that boat. Your going to sit by and let guys like Rivear, Callazo, Ouma, and many more call out Margarito but you dont care if he doesnt fight them?
The last thing we have to be clear about is the money because this was a big issue for everyone and it turns out that you and the others are wrong. Floyd did get 8mil for Baldy. They say he got 8mil + 1 dollar so that ends any discussion about him running. He is now fighting the real champ for the exact same amount of money. Im not a Margarito hater. He could be the best fighter of all time for all I know but he could also be complete garbage. No one will ever know if he doesnt fight one decent guy but you fans let him get away with it. Is that so much to ask? Clottey who looked like complete garbage on HBO wont cut it
Get out of here DLT, with all your common sense and whatnot. Kidding. Margarito fans bash PBF for doing the same things that he is doing. The difference is that Floyd is fighting the #1 WW, while Margarito is settling for the 2nd or 3rd best PROSPECT, not even a proven guy, but a prospect. Its sad that some people think this no name guy is the one to beat Floyd all because Arum hyped him up to earn a some money. Arum bashes Floyd because he can't make money off of him anymore. A few months ago he was holding Floyd's dick.
THIS IS FOR DLT You cannot tell me about Significant Wins HOW BOUT PBF who has PBF Fought at welter who is significant enough to crown him as the best at welter A DIMINISHING GATTI With not enough hand speed to last 6 rounds, A HAS BEEN SAMRMBA MITCHELL, You cant tell me he is the best at welter < I GIVE MUCH RESPECT AT A LOWER WEIGHT Class with his wins over castillo and diego, but margarito does have the WBO belt and is ranked2nd in the division , You know what it does makes sense to fight a hard hitting brick chin having agrentina boxer who is a lesser risk why because baldomir is to slow mayweather will overwelm him with speed agility and impecable defense, He will win credibility from fans like you "CONSUMER FANS" who only names. Besides let PBF beat baldomir and get the belt let him get his chance with the golden boy once margarito gets there he will be de throwned WHy you ask because the mental battle has been won FACT OF THE MATTER HE TOOK A LOWER RISK FIGHT FOR FIVE MILLION and not a crowd pleasing 8 million he is afraid of not getting his may 5 bout for a possible golden whopping , its simple clean cut and dry PBF WILL NEVER BE CONSIDEREd THE BEST AT WELTER UNTIL HE FIGHTS LEGITIMATE OPPONENT LIKE OSCAR MARGARITO HATTON , im going out on the limb on this won but the hell with it PAUL WILLIAMS why not throw in Winky wright , Or a lets good one for you "SHANE MOSLEY" is that a decent name for you. If PBF Fights these guys much respect but until then he is just a GREAT PROSPECT IN THE WELTERWEIGHT DIVISIOn
How the hell did you find this old thread? Anyways, you cant be serious? Floyd just beat the guy who was the Undisputed Champ i Zab and now he's fighting the guy who is now the Undisputed Champ in Baldmorie. You sound so funny trying to put Margarito's name in with the likes of Oscar, Winky, or even Hatton for that matter who has legitimate wins over Tszyu and Callazo.
Ill ask you this: What has Margarito done to be considered the man at 147? Who died and made him the King? Who died and said that everything has to go through him? Margarito doesnt have one big win, he's not rated in the top 2 at WW by the Ring, he has a fake belt that he didnt get from the Champ and only has because it is vacant, he just lost 2 fights ago, and he has a milliong guys calling him out but is settling for guys like Clottey. What makes him the man over Baldy who just beat 2 legitimate guys and the real WW champ? What makes him more legitimate over Callazo who has beaten everyone including Rivera and alot of people thinks he beat Hatton. You could argue that Margarito is no different then Mesquita who is undefeated and has a belt. What makes Margarito the man over him? Floyd meanwhile has beat Zab and is going to fight Baldy for the real title.
Also I will tell you like I tell others. You guys make me sick when you bring up names like Oscar & Hatton when Floyd has tried forever to fight Oscar, Hatton, & Mosley. All 3 of them very recently have publicly turned him down but the haters never want to talk about that and act like they dont even acknowledge it. One thing you cant argue against is that Floyd has put in work throught his career but Margarito hasnt. You guys never want to answer the question of why doesnt Margarito have to fight anybody? He can live his whole life by calling out Floyd and doing nothing else? You guys act like he's the only one who's called out Floyd. A million guys do but 99% of them arent worthy and he is in that boat. Your going to sit by and let guys like Rivear, Callazo, Ouma, and many more call out Margarito but you dont care if he doesnt fight them?
The last thing we have to be clear about is the money because this was a big issue for everyone and it turns out that you and the others are wrong. Floyd did get 8mil for Baldy. They say he got 8mil + 1 dollar so that ends any discussion about him running. He is now fighting the real champ for the exact same amount of money. Im not a Margarito hater. He could be the best fighter of all time for all I know but he could also be complete garbage. No one will ever know if he doesnt fight one decent guy but you fans let him get away with it. Is that so much to ask? Clottey who looked like complete garbage on HBO wont cut it
Margarito should fight either Cotto or Williams before fighting Floyd. With a recognized name on his resume, he has a better chance of actually landing a fight with Floyd.
THIS IS FOR DLT You cannot tell me about Significant Wins HOW BOUT PBF who has PBF Fought at welter who is significant enough to crown him as the best at welter A DIMINISHING GATTI With not enough hand speed to last 6 rounds, A HAS BEEN SAMRMBA MITCHELL, You cant tell me he is the best at welter < I GIVE MUCH RESPECT AT A LOWER WEIGHT Class with his wins over castillo and diego, but margarito does have the WBO belt and is ranked2nd in the division , You know what it does makes sense to fight a hard hitting brick chin having agrentina boxer who is a lesser risk why because baldomir is to slow mayweather will overwelm him with speed agility and impecable defense, He will win credibility from fans like you "CONSUMER FANS" who only names. Besides let PBF beat baldomir and get the belt let him get his chance with the golden boy once margarito gets there he will be de throwned WHy you ask because the mental battle has been won FACT OF THE MATTER HE TOOK A LOWER RISK FIGHT FOR FIVE MILLION and not a crowd pleasing 8 million he is afraid of not getting his may 5 bout for a possible golden whopping , its simple clean cut and dry PBF WILL NEVER BE CONSIDEREd THE BEST AT WELTER UNTIL HE FIGHTS LEGITIMATE OPPONENT LIKE OSCAR MARGARITO HATTON , im going out on the limb on this won but the hell with it PAUL WILLIAMS why not throw in Winky wright , Or a lets good one for you "SHANE MOSLEY" is that a decent name for you. If PBF Fights these guys much respect but until then he is just a GREAT PROSPECT IN THE WELTERWEIGHT DIVISIOn
i think margarito looses this fight due to pbf's boxing skills and speed maragarito does have more power but against pbf is useless unless you have speed ...as far as castillo goes i don't think he can beat pbf now in their 1st fight i think castillo surprised pbf and i also feel like many that castillo won that fight but in the re-match pbf had a more decisive win if their were to fight a 3rd. time it would be a more lobsided win for pbf because he allready knows how to fight castillo ...the only person i can see beating floyd right now is zab this is just because zab has good boxing skills and has alot of speed i think he is a bit slower than floyd but pbf has not faced someone with zab's speed this would give him trouble .
I can't see this being Floyd's next fight. Okay so be beats Gatti spectacularly - but everyone knows that Gatti was basically given the belt after Tszyu was made WBC emeritus champ. He needs to beat Hatton or Cotto before he can fairly be called a champ at 140.
Having said that - Floyd beats Margarito easy at 147. Margarito is way overrated - I pick Judah, Mosley, Spinks, DLH, Mayorga, Forrest and even Santos over him at 147
lol Santos at 147 haha when they fought Santos was weighing 175 pounds in PR. I think Margarito is top 3 at welter, we need a unification bout with Judah so we can clear things up around here.
I can't see this being Floyd's next fight. Okay so be beats Gatti spectacularly - but everyone knows that Gatti was basically given the belt after Tszyu was made WBC emeritus champ. He needs to beat Hatton or Cotto before he can fairly be called a champ at 140.
Having said that - Floyd beats Margarito easy at 147. Margarito is way overrated - I pick Judah, Mosley, Spinks, DLH, Mayorga, Forrest and even Santos over him at 147
This fight if it happens will go to Floyd.
Margarito will not look as bad as Gatti and will be willing to put up a fight.
Lets not count out that he does def. have a punchers chance.
I dont mind this fight just to see what happens.Another win for the slick Mayweather.
I still think to succeed against Mayweather you have to apply constant, intelligent pressure, like Castillo did. I think Hatton probably has the best shot at 140, but if the Hatton team insists on Manchester as the venue, and I'm sure they will, I doubt that fight will happen.
I think Margarito would have the best shot at 147 for the same reasons -- he would apply constant, intelligent pressure.
Margarito is a good fighter with rang...but he is just too slow...his arms are long and his punches come slower...he is patient but just too slow...I kind of think it would be a repeat of Floyd/Castillo II...maybe not as one sided as Floyd/Gatti...but Floyd would win convincingly...
size almost has nothing to do with it when it comes to Floyd
i still think that castillo has unfinished business with mayweather, and he is probably the only fighter to push him hard and even beat him (in most people's mind for the first fight)........
i don't know why gatti tried to box mayweather in the center of the ring...he didn't push him at all.
Margarito is a good fighter with rang...but he is just too slow...his arms are long and his punches come slower...he is patient but just too slow...I kind of think it would be a repeat of Floyd/Castillo II...maybe not as one sided as Floyd/Gatti...but Floyd would win convincingly...
size almost has nothing to do with it when it comes to Floyd
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