Dude what's up with the cruiser weight division?
It's like it's gone and it's LHW and then HW. Is there any action going on there at all?
If I aren't wrong Holyfield was there no? Now that he's gone does anything happen there?
Are you talking about Winky Wright? Wright had his chances, he was just too young for JC Vasquez, and faded down the stretch in his fights with Vargas and Simon. If it's ANYONES fault for Winky not getting shots at anything its his own. Why would anyone want to take a fight with a guy (pre-mosely) that to date had only beaten Bronco McKart?
That is all true, but I didnt make the comparison. That guy did
John David Jackson (Mosleys trainer) claimed that Gunn would be the best Crusierweight today, he compares him to Wright who never got a shot at anything. Believe me, Mormeck vs Gunn would not be a blowout like you are hinting for Mormeck. Plenty of fighters have tons of skill but never get shots. Also the only reason he is 14-1-1 and had a layoff is because he had to leave the coutnry to fight Bareknuckle in Ireland, England and Canada to make money for his family because of sick members of it. He is back now and looking for the title. He has a top prospect during his first part of his career
Are you talking about Winky Wright? Wright had his chances, he was just too young for JC Vasquez, and faded down the stretch in his fights with Vargas and Simon. If it's ANYONES fault for Winky not getting shots at anything its his own. Why would anyone want to take a fight with a guy (pre-mosely) that to date had only beaten Bronco McKart?
You know whats funny?
Back in the day, todays cruiserweights were heavyweights...
Rocky Marciano and Joe Louis would be considered Cruiserweights if they fought today.
An plus from watching you box Slipx, I wouldnt even comment on any other people. Basically what you come down to in boxing, its a former jock trying to be a tough guy. Otherwise known as a joke
Dude what's up with the cruiser weight division?
It's like it's gone and it's LHW and then HW. Is there any action going on there at all?
If I aren't wrong Holyfield was there no? Now that he's gone does anything happen there?
I seldome see a good cruiser wt. fight anymore..the last one was O'Neil Bell vs. Dale Brown and that was a robbery! It used to be one of my fav. divisions, but it's just not hopping enough anymore. Hopefully JMM will get back in the ring soon and show us some action!!
bobby gunn broke glen johnsons rib with 1 body punch he knocked out former wbc welterweight champion marlin starling in a sparring session when he was 17."His only blemish on his 11-1-1 record came on a technical decision when Bobby broke his right arm in the 2 nd round in a fight early in his career. The referee stopped the fight because his arm was twisted around and ruled that he could not continue even though he had his opponent knocked down on the canvas."
He knows what hes talking about and Slipx its hard for you to say anything because you have never seen him fight and the last guy he fought was Evander Holyfields sparring partner who really weighed in at 215 ( I was at weight in) and ask Dogtown he saw the fight, the guy was tall and had reach. Bobby destroyed him easily and to say that all of that stuff will happen isnt true, he has sparred with many great champions before and is one of the most skilled fighters for his weight in boxing today. He is well known around the boxing world just not to the public because of non tv fights.
bobby gunn broke glen johnsons rib with 1 body punch he knocked out former wbc welterweight champion marlin starling in a sparring session when he was 17."His only blemish on his 11-1-1 record came on a technical decision when Bobby broke his right arm in the 2 nd round in a fight early in his career. The referee stopped the fight because his arm was twisted around and ruled that he could not continue even though he had his opponent knocked down on the canvas."
regardless of how tough u think that guy is..
hes a short motherfucker..esp for a cruiser..
once he gets around 20 wins hes gonna be fighting proper CWs and he'll prolly move up to HW..and looking at his body i can tell off the top hes a swarmer/slugger..
it's only a matter of time before he faces an open-paw style opponent that is trained to catch punches and fight at a range, (like the great george foreman.)then its gonna be over for gunn . tall rangy fighters with open paw styles totally fucking obliterate any kind of short slugger/swarmers,believe dat
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cruiser what?
Mormeck v Bell for the undisputed title would be a fun fight and would generate some interest in the division....the winner can call out Tarver and/or Johnson, or could call out one of the smaller Byrd-like heavyweights
From the looks of that last fight, I think mormeck will do bell in something terrible, and go on to knockout tarver and any of the other LW and Cruisers out there...
theres a very exciting crusier weigh prospect comming up called david haye
he bangs like i aint never seen hes had one loss to
carl "the cat" thompson in his 10th fight witch was far to early in his career to fight sumone like the cat
but he has an "i,ll fight any one" attiude
most powerful puncher i,v seen for a while
think he,ll go far
and hopefully then move up
Thanks for the info, but amateur and sparring credentials + 99 cents might buy you a cup of coffee at 7-11....if this guy gets on TV and gets a W vs. someone like Kelvin Davis, Dale Brown, etc., then maybe he'll build up some pro credentials as well, but let's wait until that happens before mentioning the guy along with someone like Mormeck who has beaten a multitude of current/former champs
John David Jackson (Mosleys trainer) claimed that Gunn would be the best Crusierweight today, he compares him to Wright who never got a shot at anything. Believe me, Mormeck vs Gunn would not be a blowout like you are hinting for Mormeck. Plenty of fighters have tons of skill but never get shots. Also the only reason he is 14-1-1 and had a layoff is because he had to leave the coutnry to fight Bareknuckle in Ireland, England and Canada to make money for his family because of sick members of it. He is back now and looking for the title. He has a top prospect during his first part of his career
Sparred with
James Toney
Glen Johnson
Roy Jones Jr
Aaron Pryor
Thomas Hearns
Many Others
300-1 as an amature in Candian
Former world bare knunckle world champion
Former Candian world weleterweight, middleweight and crusierweight champ.
Beat Dale Brown in Canada.
Former Common Wealth champion
Ranked number 2 in Canada and has been ducked by every fighter for years.
On Boxrec a lot of the guys records he has fought arent fully shown.
As my dad manages him, Don King (who Gunn previously worked for) wants him back to bring into the crusierweight picture. NOT EVEN CLOSE to a club fighter and I guarentee once he stops getting ducked and fights big names you will completely retract what you said.
Thanks for the info, but amateur and sparring credentials + 99 cents might buy you a cup of coffee at 7-11....if this guy gets on TV and gets a W vs. someone like Kelvin Davis, Dale Brown, etc., then maybe he'll build up some pro credentials as well, but let's wait until that happens before mentioning the guy along with someone like Mormeck who has beaten a multitude of current/former champs
Bobby WHO? Who exactly has he beaten? Why is he an elite cruiserweight?
It's cool if you want to root for your local buddies, but we're talking about world-class matchups, not club fights....talk to me about Bobby WhoEver once he has beaten someone with a pulse
Sparred with
James Toney
Glen Johnson
Roy Jones Jr
Aaron Pryor
Thomas Hearns
Many Others
300-1 as an amature in Candian
Former world bare knunckle world champion
Former Candian world weleterweight, middleweight and crusierweight champ.
Beat Dale Brown in Canada.
Former Common Wealth champion
Ranked number 2 in Canada and has been ducked by every fighter for years.
On Boxrec a lot of the guys records he has fought arent fully shown.
As my dad manages him, Don King (who Gunn previously worked for) wants him back to bring into the crusierweight picture. NOT EVEN CLOSE to a club fighter and I guarentee once he stops getting ducked and fights big names you will completely retract what you said.
O Neil Bell isnt a great fighter at all. Check Bobby Gunn 14-1-1 (listed as 13-2 on boxrec.) That is the matchup that O Neil Bell ducked 2 years ago. No one will fight Gunn and he has had to fight all over just to get fights. He is the great white hope and has Tyson like punching power. Soon to be ranked in the top 10 by all the WBO, WBA, IBF and WBC. If he stops getting ducked he would easily unfiy the belts. He already has the NABC and the WBE. He would easily man handle the division and is coming for the titles. You wanna pure power check out Gunn. The site isnt completley finished but you can see a little more at www.bobbygunn.com/
Bobby WHO? Who exactly has he beaten? Why is he an elite cruiserweight?
It's cool if you want to root for your local buddies, but we're talking about world-class matchups, not club fights....talk to me about Bobby WhoEver once he has beaten someone with a pulse
O Neil Bell isnt a great fighter at all. Check Bobby Gunn 14-1-1 (listed as 13-2 on boxrec.) That is the matchup that O Neil Bell ducked 2 years ago. No one will fight Gunn and he has had to fight all over just to get fights. He is the great white hope and has Tyson like punching power. Soon to be ranked in the top 10 by all the WBO, WBA, IBF and WBC. If he stops getting ducked he would easily unfiy the belts. He already has the NABC and the WBE. He would easily man handle the division and is coming for the titles. You wanna pure power check out Gunn. The site isnt completley finished but you can see a little more at www.bobbygunn.com/
Mormeck v Bell for the undisputed title would be a fun fight and would generate some interest in the division....the winner can call out Tarver and/or Johnson, or could call out one of the smaller Byrd-like heavyweights