Vitali is a joke of a champion

hmm Rahman is no more legit than Brewster right now, which makes all you people saying Klitschko has to fight Rahman to legitimize himself look...like babies. Relax already. Fighting Brewster doesn't mean he won't fight Rahman anyway, but they might not fight because Barrett will beat Rahman anyway (I think).

I think if Barret is in top shape, he can outwork Rahman. I have always liked Rahman, but for some reason people are overrating him due to his string of wins over nobodies. Yes, Kali Meehan is a nobody. I agree. I have always liked Rahman as well. I'm also a fan of Barrett's. Having said that, I hope Barrett kicks his ass for disrespecting him. It would be poetic. And I agree with your assesment of Kali Meehan.

Can someone please tell me where Vitali says he will not fight Rahman? Did I miss an article somewhere? All I saw was that Vitali said he would be willing to fight Brewster. Not instead of Rahman, or in place of, or anything else this is being twisted into. Somehow that turned into Vitali ducking Rahman when it was Rahman who originally blocked their fight in April. I have NO doubt Vitali will fight whoever the WBC tells him to. BTW Rahman still has to get by Barrett, who he has disrespected and overlooked. I think if Barret is in top shape, he can outwork Rahman. I have always liked Rahman, but for some reason people are overrating him due to his string of wins over nobodies. Yes, Kali Meehan is a nobody.

Can someone please tell me where Vitali says he will not fight Rahman? Did I miss an article somewhere? All I saw was that Vitali said he would be willing to fight Brewster. Not instead of Rahman, or in place of, or anything else this is being twisted into. Somehow that turned into Vitali ducking Rahman when it was Rahman who originally blocked their fight in April. I have NO doubt Vitali will fight whoever the WBC tells him to. BTW Rahman still has to get by Barrett, who he has disrespected and overlooked.

I have to agree with Bozo No-no. I actually have nothing against Vitali its just that he is extremely over-hyped and if he doesnt face Rahman that will be an extremely negative sign in my eyes. Not because I dont feel that he can or cannot beat Rahman its just the principal behind it. First off He promised to fight Rahman and he has eluded the fight three times. (For whatever reasons I dont feel like discussing because that will be for another thread lol). Secondly Rahman is his mandatory. if rahman gets through Barett and Vitali doesnt fight him he looses his belt, if he can so easily dispatch rahman why not just beat him, retain your title and then unify another belt? That way he keeps his belt, kills out all critics who feel that rahman can beat him and he gains some respect from those who dont respect him.

Bitch please when Vitali beats a few fighters u will be on his nuts again, we dont want no fans who are with us and then talk shit and when he wins like him again, move the hell on... Hey slick, if he doesn't face Rahman (depending upon whether or not he defeats Barrett) I will not root for him because he pussed out of facing his mandatory. If Vitali faces Brewster in September and wins the WBO and does not get stripped of his WBC belt in the process and then faces the winner of Rahman vs Barrett then I will have no problem with him, but it seems as though he is blatantly refusing to face Rahman out of fear. Vitali has already held the WBO belt.

I can no longer defend Vitali. I was a fan but now I am starting to lose much respect for him. It's blatant that he fears facing Rahman (why I have no idea). Vitali has tried everyway possible to get out of fighting Rahman. Personally I think Barrett will beat Rahman and when that happens then Vitali will probably change his tune and agree to fight Barrett. That will show what kind of a chump he has become. Note to Vitali: STOP coming to your baby brothers defense all the time. Stand up be a man and defend your title like a true champion is supposed to. Bitch please when Vitali beats a few fighters u will be on his nuts again, we dont want no fans who are with us and then talk shit and when he wins like him again, move the hell on...

I can no longer defend Vitali. I was a fan but now I am starting to lose much respect for him. It's blatant that he fears facing Rahman (why I have no idea). Vitali has tried everyway possible to get out of fighting Rahman. Personally I think Barrett will beat Rahman and when that happens then Vitali will probably change his tune and agree to fight Barrett. That will show what kind of a chump he has become. Note to Vitali: STOP coming to your baby brothers defense all the time. Stand up be a man and defend your title like a true champion is supposed to.

I just wish his next fight would hurry up and happen. I REALLY wish he would fight Rahman because he said he would fight him next, and I actually think he is a better fighter than Brewster anyway. I just wanna get to the next "Rahman is a bum, we all knew it", "Brewster sucks ass, we all knew it", and "Vitali is a joke of a champion, if he weren't so damn tall..." threads. lol It's always gonna be this way no matter who he fights.

Boxing Rec has Vitali's recent opponents ranked, 18 Kirk Johnson 20 Danny Williams 23 Corrie Sanders And that's after he defeated them. They were top 15 opponents, if not top 10, at the time he faced them.

fightnews.com has ranked the top 15 heavyweights IN ADDITION TO big Vit. They are: 1. Vitali Klitschko 2. Chris Byrd 3. Hasim Rahman 4. Lamon Brewster 5. Wladimir Klitschko 6. James Toney 7. John Ruiz 8. Samuel Peter 9. Calvin Brock 10. Luan Krasniqi 11. Nicolay Valuev 12. Monte Barrett 13. Andrew Golota 14. DaVarryl Williamson 15. Jameel McCline 16. Sergei Lyakovich The recognized champion is 0-1 against the best in the division. What's your point? What was the top 15 at the time he faced his most recent opponents? They aren't on the list because he knocked them off the list.

Actualy, I'm a fan of several of those boxers (Holyfield, Tyson, Golota.....). The post was to prove a point that there is nothing wrong with Klitscko's opponents (Fat, out of shape, and so on) and insults were fictional. fightnews.com has ranked the top 15 heavyweights IN ADDITION TO big Vit. They are: 1. Vitali Klitschko 2. Chris Byrd 3. Hasim Rahman 4. Lamon Brewster 5. Wladimir Klitschko 6. James Toney 7. John Ruiz 8. Samuel Peter 9. Calvin Brock 10. Luan Krasniqi 11. Nicolay Valuev 12. Monte Barrett 13. Andrew Golota 14. DaVarryl Williamson 15. Jameel McCline 16. Sergei Lyakovich The recognized champion is 0-1 against the best in the division.

Take away your insults to the fighters, and that list is pretty impressive Actualy, I'm a fan of several of those boxers (Holyfield, Tyson, Golota.....). The post was to prove a point that there is nothing wrong with Klitscko's opponents (Fat, out of shape, and so on) and insults were fictional.

Nothing wrong with Vitali or his opponents. Non of them were fat, old or whatever. It's just the Anti-Klitschko's trying to discredit the brothers. For example, the same can be done with Lennox Lewis. He fought, 2003-06-21 Vitali Klitschko - Awkward and never fought anyone. 2002-06-08 Mike Tyson - Old and lost his skill long ago 2001-11-17 Hasim Rahman - No skill 2001-04-22 Hasim Rahman - Exposed Lewis's weak chin with one lucky punch. 2000-11-11 David Tua 245 - Short/ one dimensional fighter. 2000-07-15 Francois Botha - Out of Shape 2000-04-29 Michael Grant - Glass jaw 1999-11-13 Evander Holyfield - Old Man. Way past his prime. Lewis better off beating up someone from the old folks home. 1999-03-13 Evander Holyfield - See Above 1998-09-26 Zeljko Mavrovic - Who's the little guy? 1998-03-28 Shannon Briggs - No skill 1997-10-04 Andrew Golota - No skill 1997-07-12 Henry Akinwande - Bias Ref 1997-02-07 241 Oliver McCall - Paid Off/ didn't want to fight. 1996-05-10 Ray Mercer - Out of shape/Past his Prime. 1995-10-07 Tommy Morrison - A fictional movie boxer 1995-07-02 Justin Fortune - Who's this little guy? 1995-05-13 Lionel Butler - This guy lost to everyone It could be said Lewis was in a weak division also and there was something wrong with everyone he fought as well. Oh and Lewis averaged two fights per year since 1995 and only fought once a year from 2001-2004. Nothing Wrong with Vitali and I'm sure he will fight whoever the WBC wants him to, Rahman or Brewster. Take away your insults to the fighters, and that list is pretty impressive

Brewster, Ruiz, or Byrd instead. It's not a guarantee, but VK would likely beat all of them. And that's a large part of what brings on the over-hyping. The attitude that everyone 'thinks' he'd beat them all, so he deserves to be regarded like it's already happened. Only it hasn't. He won the title agianst Corrie Sanders, and defended it agaisnt Danny Williams. Outside of that, his biggest career wins are over a 260lb Kirk Johnson, and Larry Donald. I need to see him actually beat Byrd Ruiz Toney or Brewster before I start to give him some of the credit that's so freely thrown at him...

Punch his face open: I guess that would work, but wouldn't that work against any fighter? I know people hype up VK to be invincible and this ticks people off. The only thing that's wrong with this is that people who hate on him because of that seem like they are fucking idiots. Why don't you try insulting the fans instead of the fighter if this is the case? Insulting VK makes people look stupid. IMO, it's like you take the side of Brewster, Ruiz, or Byrd instead. It's not a guarantee, but VK would likely beat all of them. There's many negative things I could say about those 3 other champs, but I don't because I don't have to. VK is the best right now, whether anybody likes it or not. Damn.

I recall your argument with someone over the fact that Lennox Lewis had no intention of slicing Vitalis face up...that thread was funny. ;) That was funny stuff.

That's not to say that cut can't get re-opened. It was a direct answer to the question of how a current meidocre Heavyweight (as there are now class Heavyweights around now) could beat him. I recall your argument with someone over the fact that Lennox Lewis had no intention of slicing Vitalis face up...that thread was funny.

why don't you ask Chris Byrd how to make him quit all you gotta do is last for more than 5 rounds (Wihtout getting hit too often) and he quits hahaha. Yes he had a shoulder injury but I remember Jesus Chaves fighting erik Morales for several rounds with one arm. That is how you beat him

Nobody tries to punch a fighters face open or intentionally cut them...it's not what you're supposed to do. :rolleyes: :D That's not to say that cut can't get re-opened. It was a direct answer to the question of how a current meidocre Heavyweight (as there are now class Heavyweights around now) could beat him.