I do not get it? Now Hopkins is not great unless he fight's Winky?

who has hopkins beaten besides tito to be considered "great"? he beat tito, who winky DEMOLISHED...he beat oscar who...well...i dont even need to say anything about that... who else? exactly. bernard is far from great.

hopkins is only great based on his number of middleweight title defenses. he hasnt exactly had much stern opposition in the last decade not hopkins fault but its true nonetheless Exactly. His biggest wins (and those that will get him in the HOF) are against Trinidad and a blown-up DLH who clearly lost to Sturm. Yes, he's beaten a lot of people at MW. However, I think he hasn't faced tough opposition (except for Trinidad). Winky is a hard fighter to figure out. I don't think Nard, as slow as he starts, will be able to take a fight on points from Winky and I doubt he'd KO him. I think Winky wins against Hopkins on style matchups. Nard should fight Wink, tho (in a snoozer), just as a favor to fans who want to see the two people who beat Trinidad face each other. BTW, Taylor is untested and, as such, isn't really a "tough" fight for Hopkins. For the record, tho, I still think it will be a close fight with Taylor imposing his long jab and Hopkins having to come from behind to win a close decision.

hopkins is only great based on his number of middleweight title defenses. he hasnt exactly had much stern opposition in the last decade not hopkins fault but its true nonetheless

Damn, Pretender! We finally agree on somethin', must be a full moon! LOL! it's the lunar eclipse

it would suck though if B-Hop dont fight Winky. I mean that shiznite match is built fo boxing fans. B-Hop beat Trinidad one sidedly Winky beat Trinidad one sidedly Side note : I'm also crazy fo sayin Jermain Taylor woulda beaten Trinidad! It's jest perfect to see these two go at it.

Hopkins way better record than wink. Wink would get stomped by Hopkins no doubt. Damn, Pretender! We finally agree on somethin', must be a full moon! LOL!

Hopkins is far better than Winky, Hopkins has experience and skill all around. Plus on top of that he has been champ for 10 years and has taken on everyone and beat them all. What makes Winky any different. Tito had what it took to be great before he retired since he has been back he has not been the Tito of old and Winky would have been KO'd if he fought him 2 years ago. well not sure if tito would've been KO'd i think he was the same tito, acutally if not better, but winkys defence, is very HARd to solved, n he couldn't solve it. hopkins not sure if he's better than winky or not, only if they fought we could tell, BUT, hopkins doens't have to face him... pl sayin hes ducking him, he already signed his nex fight, shouldn't he jus focus on that? hopkins is gona end his career aginst the best in style, n thts wat he's doing? if he wants to face winky thts fine.

Hopkins is far better than Winky, Hopkins has experience and skill all around. Plus on top of that he has been champ for 10 years and has taken on everyone and beat them all. What makes Winky any different. Tito had what it took to be great before he retired since he has been back he has not been the Tito of old and Winky would have been KO'd if he fought him 2 years ago.

I can't believe some of you, now people are actually believe Hopkins will never be considered the best until he fights Winky. That he is ducking Winky. I guess they forget that Hopkins already has a commitment to Taylor of whom many are saying will be Hopkin's biggest test in a while. Many were saying Hopkins was ducking Eastman at one point and that Eastman who is a true, big, solid MW like Hopkins would beat Hopkins. Now people keep saying Hopkins is ducking Winky and still critisizing him for taking opportunities vs DLH and Tito that ANY professional fighter would take for millions. Now people are saying that Winky IS the best MW and giving Winky all the credit in the world for beating Tito who is still very small for a MW himself. Hopkins would fight Winky, win, then those same people would turn around and throw Winky into the DLH/Tito category of smaller fighters that Hopkins beat. Then people will start saying Hopkins is ducking Ouma... please... I totally agree with you, winky is good but cmon hopkins not great unless he fights him, thats a joke. Hopkins in his prime would prolly destroy him, he getting old now but can still do the job anyway. Hopkins is my pick if they fight.

Yes because he is good at finishing off people who are smaller then him . It wouldnt be bad for the resume though

Not to mention , I think that even if they did fight , it would probably be boring with the way each of them fight . B- Hop IS cautious , and Winky is a straight boxer . Historically though B_ hop is very good a knocking out people who are smaller then him , so winky might fit in that catergory . Too answer the question though B-Hop , doesnt need winky

I can't believe some of you, now people are actually believe Hopkins will never be considered the best until he fights Winky. That he is ducking Winky. I guess they forget that Hopkins already has a commitment to Taylor of whom many are saying will be Hopkin's biggest test in a while. Many were saying Hopkins was ducking Eastman at one point and that Eastman who is a true, big, solid MW like Hopkins would beat Hopkins. Now people keep saying Hopkins is ducking Winky and still critisizing him for taking opportunities vs DLH and Tito that ANY professional fighter would take for millions. Now people are saying that Winky IS the best MW and giving Winky all the credit in the world for beating Tito who is still very small for a MW himself. Hopkins would fight Winky, win, then those same people would turn around and throw Winky into the DLH/Tito category of smaller fighters that Hopkins beat. Then people will start saying Hopkins is ducking Ouma... please... could not agree more... i think its ignorant to say that hopkins needs winky

Don't forget that B-Hop already has a signed contract to fight Taylor. Which he would lose!

Heh after Ouma it'd be Vargas :rolleyes:

i completly agree. How is he ducking a man who just became famous 2 weeks ago?? He had already agreed to fight someone else, but apperently hes ducking this man. my prediction if Hopkins doesnt get old over night, Hopkins wins by UD or late stoppage

I can't believe some of you, now people are actually believe Hopkins will never be considered the best until he fights Winky. That he is ducking Winky. I guess they forget that Hopkins already has a commitment to Taylor of whom many are saying will be Hopkin's biggest test in a while. Many were saying Hopkins was ducking Eastman at one point and that Eastman who is a true, big, solid MW like Hopkins would beat Hopkins. Now people keep saying Hopkins is ducking Winky and still critisizing him for taking opportunities vs DLH and Tito that ANY professional fighter would take for millions. Now people are saying that Winky IS the best MW and giving Winky all the credit in the world for beating Tito who is still very small for a MW himself. Hopkins would fight Winky, win, then those same people would turn around and throw Winky into the DLH/Tito category of smaller fighters that Hopkins beat. Then people will start saying Hopkins is ducking Ouma... please... if you'll notice,only foreigners are saying that.

I can't believe some of you, now people are actually believe Hopkins will never be considered the best until he fights Winky. That he is ducking Winky. I guess they forget that Hopkins already has a commitment to Taylor of whom many are saying will be Hopkin's biggest test in a while. Many were saying Hopkins was ducking Eastman at one point and that Eastman who is a true, big, solid MW like Hopkins would beat Hopkins. Now people keep saying Hopkins is ducking Winky and still critisizing him for taking opportunities vs DLH and Tito that ANY professional fighter would take for millions. Now people are saying that Winky IS the best MW and giving Winky all the credit in the world for beating Tito who is still very small for a MW himself. Hopkins would fight Winky, win, then those same people would turn around and throw Winky into the DLH/Tito category of smaller fighters that Hopkins beat. Then people will start saying Hopkins is ducking Ouma... please... amen to that...