Pound 4 Pound who is a greater fighter?

Barrera could do a little more over all don't know if he is faster p4p ...wouldnt say he hits as hard p4p....chin about the same ...but his over all boxing skill his better so i pick Barrera but it's close and i woudn't put money on a fight between them

Thats an easy one. MAB of course-- I live in PR and Tito is still loved by many fans, but compared to Barrera's career and record he doesn't come close

I go Barrera, for the meere fact it is how a warrior gets up, after being knocked down. but barrerra gets, smashed by Pacquio and comes back and not only beats more challengers but takes out morales agin to be champ. So in my opinion Barerra easily I agree with this portion of your post. I dont think Tito is a crybaby, he just doesnt know how to adapt. Getting up from Knockdowns to win isnt adapting, he didnt do anything different when he got up, he just outfought his opponent. "Adapting" is changing your strategy, something that Oscar, Bernard and Winky proved. Its not a fluke if it happens more than once.

I go Barrera, for the meere fact it is how a warrior gets up, after being knocked down. Tito is a cry baby, he loses to hopkins and retires, he comes back and fights a blown up Mayorga, then gets whooped by Winky Wright. but barrerra gets, smashed by Pacquio and comes back and not only beats more challengers but takes out morales agin to be champ. So in my opinion Barerra easily

barrera is off to a great year. their are talks of him fighting feden, the australian champ. if he pull this one up, he will jack up his P4P standing

Post Winky, I must go with Barrera.

if you had listened to the annoucers now you are entering the BS world excuse but why should I listen to the announcers? and maybe we listened to different announcers with different opinions, considering that I did not live in the US until sept it is very possible and trinidad was always known for his power, don't give me this crap now to get out of the corner where you out yourself as usual and you don't need to be the heaviest banger in the world to get someone to piss blood, you need decent pop and to be well disciplined, chavez was powerful but IMO his biggest asset were his pressure, chin and infigthing

I like that idea!! I am not biased and I know that you arent ..as you have an Italian in your avatar!! He is the one that you should be having this discussion with.. He has done more to discredit Tito and puerto Rico and your organization than anyone on here who argues with him ever could!! De Niro, Pacino, and Stallone kick ass.

wmute after reading his last post im officially done. I think everyone has said their peace and this is a done deal.

Anybody else notice the 33 Barrera votes to Titos 12 or whatever? I thought it'd be closer than that. Just goes to show what the general consensus is...

Chavez was hitting Taylor with big shots all night. Hence the broken ribs, facial bones, cuts inside the mouth, internal bleeding, bruising, etc... DLH didn't have a scratch on him. Chavez didn't really adapt to Taylor and Taylor fought the better fight. Chavez actually got to Taylor throughout the fight though. Tito just showed that he could get outboxed for 7 rounds and DLH showed that he's an idiot who likes to give away fights. hey we are having the same debate and writing the same thing, I have to go now so I will subscribe anything you say from now on. later

When he shoves Puerto Rico in everyones face all day what am I supposed to do.. Ok.. I suppose you'd like me to be alittle more tactful.. From now on I'll say some shit like " Hello Mr. I watch Boxing Sir.. I've noticed that you hold your country in invariably a very high esteem. I feel that by you doing this you are imposing your disposition that Puerto Rico is invariably superior on the rest of us mere mortals.. My italian heritage is a virtuous one.. I feel very proud and honored of it , yet I feel it unjust and classless to force it undoubtedly upon others in this forum.. Your flagrant and excessive commercialization of your heritage is I feel excessive and unjust due compared to the accomplishments of my heritage and my people throughout the course of history... How about not mentioning countries or races at all? How about keeping it strictly boxing?

Maybe not, if he had stood to fight maybe, who knows, but what did Chavez do to adapt to Taylor when he was getting his "ears boxed off"? We only know what he did in a rematch, but Trinidad hasnt had one. oh i forgot the rematch part taylor was never the same after the chavez fight, permanently damaged dlh was not hurt so tell me how the rematch would be so different

Maybe not, if he had stood to fight maybe, who knows, but what did Chavez do to adapt to Taylor when he was getting his "ears boxed off"? We only know what he did in a rematch, but Trinidad hasnt had one. Chavez was hitting Taylor with big shots all night. Hence the broken ribs, facial bones, cuts inside the mouth, internal bleeding, bruising, etc... DLH didn't have a scratch on him. Chavez didn't really adapt to Taylor and Taylor fought the better fight. Chavez actually got to Taylor throughout the fight though. Tito just showed that he could get outboxed for 7 rounds and DLH showed that he's an idiot who likes to give away fights.

Maybe not, if he had stood to fight maybe, who knows, but what did Chavez do to adapt to Taylor when he was getting his "ears boxed off"? destroyed his body with a slow meticolous work, which led to taylor to piss pure blood after the fight, to have multiple facial fractures after chavez reached the head in the later rounds, to be ruined forever. did tito do that? no he went head hunting for most of the rounds he fought in his career. face it tito is an at most average inside fighter, chavez was one of the greatest. to top the cake taylor and dlh fought different fights against chavez and tito. chavez was already in his 3rd weight class, tito was in his "prime" class: 147

What did Chavez do with Taylor? Wasnt it his power that got him that lucky save by the ref? Trinidad just never had a rematch before, thats all. They're nothing alike. One was the greatest fight in the history of boxing between two complete warriors and the other was one of the worst fights in the history of the sport between a guy who only wanted to fight for 8-9 rounds and a guy who couldn't beat or do anything to the guy who only wanted to fight for only 8-9 rounds. You aren't making your case by making this comparison.

Its the same thing, both were Don King operated and both had a puncher vs boxer that came short, just Taylor stood to fight instead of run, think about it. and both were dk-controversial... doubtful stoppage, ridiculous scoring so you are suggesting that dlh would have been in danger of ending up like taylor in that fight?

What did Chavez do with Taylor? Wasnt it his power that got him that lucky save by the ref? Trinidad just never had a rematch before, thats all. are you comparing chavez-taylor with dlh-tito?

Those two loses shouldnt count against him, since you can say he came from behind to win the DLH fight, and came back from 8 or something knockdowns to win a fight, he can adapt well, he just hit the end of his streak with Hopkins, but I understand what you saying. He didn't adapt to DLH though. He was very uncomfortable the eintire fight and couldn't do anything to Oscar. Oscar gave the fight away by running like a bitch. It's not like Tito shut DLH's movement down and pummeled him...neither of those fuckers deserved to win that fight. That should have been a draw... I don't agree with anyone who says that DLH dominated the first 8 rounds either. I had it 6-5-1 for DLH but it should have been a draw now that I think about it.

Those two loses shouldnt count against him, since you can say he came from behind to win the DLH fight, and came back from 8 or something knockdowns to win a fight, he can adapt well, he just hit the end of his streak with Hopkins. I dont see why his 2 losses shouldnt count You act like a loss means your done He lost cuz not once did he fight a decent boxer except DLH who beat him