Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 7:17 pm Post subject:
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This is the statement released by Jt and his camp-
Toney denies taking performance enhancers
Official statement from Toney and Goossen Tudor promotions
James Toney has fought many fights in his career, but the one apparently facing him now is one that disturbs and revolts him like no other opponent could ever do. "Being accused of taking performance enhancing substances is an insult to me. I don't do drugs period," Toney stated.
"I've never used any illegal substances to prepare myself for a fight."
Toney's body doesn't reflect a fighter taking mass muscle substances, nor would anyone in their right mind be taking any banned substances, while knowingly and willingly giving urine samples. Toney's weight loss was substantial from the day the fight was announced to the event, totally inconsistent with the signs of an athlete using substances to add muscle mass.
"Toney received medical treatment for recovery from his biceps and triceps surgery last year. His doctor has stated that the combination of medications used to control the inflammation and tissue growth caused the positive test result," stated Dan Goossen, Toney's promoter. "This is further supported, since the body, in combination with the medications, naturally create the form of substance ("Nandrolone") reflected in the test results."
I agree with this, and stand behind JT.
julia,
im very pleased to see that youre out of bed, gotten your little mitts on and are ready for another day of making an abosulute fool of yourself and your all decadent boxing sympahies.. :)
however i do have other buisness to attend to - so ill let this thread stand as is, to signify what great times we had together.
and,
i guess you do have a swollen face from last nights binge - and i wouldent wanna be there unless i was wearing rubber gloves - so youre safe for now.. :)
anyways i think we should all meet up, arrange a forum boxing tournament - maybe in ireland..? wouldent that be the ultimate, sock puppets?
case in point now where is that ignore button see you dickhead.
Though for the record I played five a side foootball for an hour and half and didnt touch a drop.
This message is hidden because Michael Wittmann is on your ignore list.
:D :D :
"Why is that?" Because JPW and Dempsey are doing a good job themselves. I don't want to pick on a newbie.
MATE I APPRECIATE YOU CONCERN FOR OUR FRIEND HERE BUT HE IS NO NEWBIE, THIS IS PANZAGIRL WHO GOT BANNED AND NOW IS POSTING UNDER ANOTHER NAME. THE GUY IS WIND UP MERCHANT WHO LOVES TO TO GET ARISE OUT OF PEOPLE.
I AM NO LONGER GOING TO GIVE HIM THE PLEASURE IT DAMAGES MY OWN CREDIBILITY BY DOING SO
..unless sof course he would like to do so to my face. That I am up for.
maybe you should hold back your own thoughts and comments until you are in full possession of the facts yourself. :boxing:
no offence but you wanna jump into a row then you should at least know what you are talking about. ;)
There is no argument. America, Mexico, and PR dominate boxing and Europe, outside of UK doesn't have much to offer. I don't see how theres really any room to debate this.
Diary I notice that when you jump in the conversation you direct your comments at JPW and Dempsey, not the guy whos being the biggest jerkoff on the thread. Now why is that exactly?
"Why is that?" Because JPW and Dempsey are doing a good job themselves. I don't want to pick on a newbie.
Did you not read the press release? I'm more inclined to believe what he and his doctor say than to believe what some corrupt bureaucratic santioning body has to say.
Thats what I'm saying. Outside of the technically testing positive thing, everything points to him not taking steroids intentionally.
There is no argument. America, Mexico, and PR dominate boxing and Europe, outside of UK doesn't have much to offer. I don't see how theres really any room to debate this.
Diary I notice that when you jump in the conversation you direct your comments at JPW and Dempsey, not the guy whos being the biggest jerkoff on the thread. Now why is that exactly?
I'm having a hard time understanding why you're involving yourself, since I was talking to somebody else about nicolai valuev, not vitali klitschko, and I don't understand what stereotype you're talking about, but could you lose the moronic signature?I know who you were talking about...
But this American Vs. European shit needs to stop as this will be a never ending war. You have nothing better to talk about other than.."we're better than you".. "no, we're better than you" well, here is a topic.. 'BOXING' want to talk about something else? Be my guest.. and take it to the lounge.
I know who started it, I read the thread.. but just don't encourage.. trust me!
I'm having a hard time understanding why you're involving yourself, since I was talking to somebody else about nicolai valuev, not vitali klitschko, and I don't understand what stereotype you're talking about, but could you lose the moronic signature?
And who's Europe's finest? That seven-foot tin-man? Let me tell you a secret...if anyone in the world is likely to be juicing, it's him.Can we cut this stereotyping shit already?
i agree, and i also stand behind roy jones and tommy morrisson too.
..americas finest..
And who's Europe's finest? That seven-foot tin-man? Let me tell you a secret...if anyone in the world is likely to be juicing, it's him.
yeah,
grouphug!
Hug, with YOU ? Sorry, euro-skank, I have no interest in rendering the shower I took this morning pointless.
Your stench carries through the cold, dry air of Norway. I'm not getting in close quarters, where the air gets warmer & more humid, with you.....nah-ah.
I would like to believe Toney but he did test positive so he is wrong.
Did you not read the press release? I'm more inclined to believe what he and his doctor say than to believe what some corrupt bureaucratic santioning body has to say.
wow, this has gotten way off topic, but i'd like to point out that lewis was a skilled super-heavy.... and wlad offensivley is as skilled any heavy.... the 2 most skilled heavy's, byrd and toney, were middleweights...Yes, this has gotten WAY OFF TOPIC. Why don't you two take your writing challenge in the lounge and you JPW, should give the :newbie: a chance.. he does write well and if you disagree with his opinion, this is a forum and no reason to act childish.
Now back on the topic...
Have you ever seen anyone say "Yes, I'm guilty"? Toney will lie through his teeth as his job, carrer, reputation, and life are all on the line!
Give me a break..
Body Builders take steroids for musscle grouth, athletes take steroids to boost up their power, their energy, and their stamina.
A man in Toney's shape would not go 12 rounds like a robot if it wasn't for the "performance enhancers"
I've had my "PHONEY" signature right after their weight-ins and turned out to be true.
Nice, I'll have a look. You describe the action in the fights well, thought sometimes I have take a moment and decipher your British expressions :cool: . I'm always interested to hear what's going on in the British/European fight scene and try to download as much as I can.
I had one article posted on this site a while back, but my boxing knowledge is nowhere near you or a lot of the other guys on this site...still nice to same my name in print, though :) .
i wouldnt say that mate, at the end of the day a learning mind is better than one that thinks he knows it all.
i must admit im getitng a bit itred of some of the polticis in the british game it gets somewhat irksome at times. A lot of the fights are midweek or sundays for some reason too.
looking forward to Hatotn thats the next big one, Im not covering that though gonna get on it with my mates.
Right now ive got my compusire again Michael stay away form my posts and the remainder of the guys Im sorry to have been weak and let this little urchin get under my skin, I humbly apologise and will try to do better in the future though its been one of those days on here for some reason.
cheers all and take it easy
yes mate im a fraud
im not a boxing writer, im no a second dan in wada ryu and i didnt have england under 18 trials at rugby neither i made it all up. :rolleyes:
all this and i thought while im telling lies i may as well let everyone know my name. :rolleyes:
whatever mate, :boxing:
haha hillarious!!
i googeled it and the search engine asked; Do you mean: WADO RYU?
so youre an expert huh? and what ale are your favourite, sir?
you are correct there should be a space there
now go do a search on WADA RYU can be spelt either way
fuck head. :rolleyes:
anyway gettIng back to the real people thanks Bombadier, nice one mate theres a few links ive posted in the global boxing section if you have alook from past fight ive covered, manaagers, prmoters and fighters Ive interviewed. :cool:
Nice, I'll have a look. You describe the action in the fights well, thought sometimes I have take a moment and decipher your British expressions :cool: . I'm always interested to hear what's going on in the British/European fight scene and try to download as much as I can.
I had one article posted on this site a while back, but my boxing knowledge is nowhere near you or a lot of the other guys on this site...still nice to same my name in print, though :) .
yeah, specially the part about going, fucking it up at the pub. sobbing about the lost empire and how everybody is jelly and fish and chips.. :D looser!!
me, i like alpine fresh air and herbs. ..and ill fuck you up!
SHUT UP YOU RETARD OR GET ON A FUCKING PLANE AND COME SEE ME.,
julian wilson..
wants to duke it out with norwegian heavyweight boxer..
i guess a lot of your readers would wanna see this, pencilneck.
my work is not in english, as you might have understood. and reproducing it here then doesent make that much sence.
still, sence isent your strongside, is it punchy? :D
here we go another fucking internet hardman :rolleyes:
fat norwegian geeezer sat behind a pc makes pathetic idle threats to a second dan black belt in wadaryu.
ones that he knows wont come off cos he really is a fat sad fuck who couldnt punch his way out of a wet paper bag.
anyway gettIng back to the real people thanks Bombadier, nice one mate theres a few links ive posted in the global boxing section if you have alook from past fight ive covered, manaagers, prmoters and fighters Ive interviewed. :cool: