Toney-WK: would you like to see that happen?

Toney-WK: would you like to see that happen? Are you kidding me? Nothing would please me more than to see a gentleman like Wlad pummel a thug like Toney for 10 rounds.

This one is much better. I can understand a lot of what you're saying. It'd be another massive physical mismatch, and Toney would have to find somehow find his way inside, and keep banging on Wlads ribs. If the fight went past 6-7 and Toney wasn't too badly beaten to do something like Williams was against Vitali, then he could definitely use his experience and Wlads inconsistent stamina to take him into deep water. Also, Jirov had an excellent chin at cruiser and Toney had him fucked at the end of the fight, but I agree it's unlikely that Toney would KO him unless Wlad got tired again or unless Toney hit him with a monsterous shot...and then followed up with many good punches. Yeah, since the Brewster fight, Wlad's stamina has become a big question mark, maybe Toney could run him out of gas, you never know lol

Look I'm just stating an opinion. Toney is way above his natural fighting weight, he's injury prone (probably because of the weight) and we're talking about his chances of KOing or at least beating Wlad, who has every physical advantage as well as youth on Toney. Toney, from what I've seen, likes to counter on the inside, which requires a cooperative opponent to stay close to him. How is he going to walk Wlad down, as hard as his jab is, get on the inside, and then what? KO Wlad when he couldn't KO Jirov, even with multiple punches landed right on the chin? And even if he does make Wlad miss with the Jab early, he's going to tire badly just like in the Booker fight, he's going to slow down, and start getting hit, etc. This one is much better. I can understand a lot of what you're saying. It'd be another massive physical mismatch, and Toney would have to find somehow find his way inside, and keep banging on Wlads ribs. If the fight went past 6-7 and Toney wasn't too badly beaten to do something like Williams was against Vitali, then he could definitely use his experience and Wlads inconsistent stamina to take him into deep water. Also, Jirov had an excellent chin at cruiser and Toney had him fucked at the end of the fight, but I agree it's unlikely that Toney would KO him unless Wlad got tired again or unless Toney hit him with a monsterous shot...and then followed up with many good punches.

That logic has a lot of holes in it. Look I'm just stating an opinion. Toney is way above his natural fighting weight, he's injury prone (probably because of the weight) and we're talking about his chances of KOing or at least beating Wlad, who has every physical advantage as well as youth on Toney. Toney, from what I've seen, likes to counter on the inside, which requires a cooperative opponent to stay close to him. How is he going to walk Wlad down, as hard as his jab is, get on the inside, and then what? KO Wlad when he couldn't KO Jirov, even with multiple punches landed right on the chin? And even if he does make Wlad miss with the Jab early, he's going to tire badly just like in the Booker fight, he's going to slow down, and start getting hit, etc.

Come on man, Toney couldn't KO Booker or Jirov, I'll bet Wlad would have KO'd Booker and Jirov too. If Toney ever did connect, he'd probably hurt his shoulder again. That logic has a lot of holes in it.

Wlad was Koed by Lameon Brewster and you people think he could take the punishment Toney would dish out? Man, you guys are nuts. James would play with Wlad like a cat with a mouse and Ko him whenever he feels like it after about 2 rounds. Come on man, Toney couldn't KO Booker or Jirov, I'll bet Wlad would have KO'd Booker and Jirov too. If Toney ever did connect, he'd probably hurt his shoulder again.

Wlad was Koed by Lameon Brewster and you people think he could take the punishment Toney would dish out? Man, you guys are nuts. James would play with Wlad like a cat with a mouse and Ko him whenever he feels like it after about 2 rounds.

He might not be so intimidated by Toney though. I mean he can hit Toney, and Toney won't be able to hit him back lol

Toney is old and washed up. Wlad is a young, athletic assassin.Toney has the confidence bred only from beating sixty some pro fighters and routinely running those tubs outta the gym. Vlad has the nerve of a chihuahua. You ever seen one who is shaking and shit for no reason with his eyes running and shit? That's Vlad.

JoeBoxer, I thought Wladimir was a Gold Medalist in 1996 Olympics? No? Also how could they have fought in the Olympics if they were completely different weight classes? Not only that, but if Toney was in the olympics, he would probably have been in the one before Wlad, as well as weighing 60lbs. less lolfucking pirates lol

what the fuck is on killa cam's mind with this pink and purple shit? lol. I agree that Toney has a better chance against Wlad than he does against his big bro. I know he's a pretty strange guy like that.

A small, tubby, blown up middleweight who relies on his boxing skill and counterpunching such as Toney, is not near agressive enough to beat Wladimir. A poster earlier described how "If Toney could take some punishment for a while, survive, then turn up the heat, he may have a chance". This is the only shot he would have. Toney is too slow, to avoid a single punch of Wlad's as well as easy as hell to hit. Jirov showed this by tagging him repeatedly on the inside of their fight. With the added weight, Toney's ring generalship has gone completely down the tube. Even If Toney was the same size as Wlad, I would still pick him to get stopped or beat beyond recognition by the big athlete. Landing clean punches would be a NON factor. Wlad could hurt Toney by punching his gloves. The minute he lands a jab on James, and he tastes that power, he will go to the ropes....and pull that opossum bullshit. Would look exactly like Wlad/Mercer where one man gets obliterated. For one, people need to get off Toney's balls. There is nothing special about him as a heavyweight. He does not hit hard at this weight, he does not have the size, and all he basically has, is his mouth to sell fights. I am still picking him to K.O. Ruiz though, who is a disgrace to boxing along with his bald, fat counterpart. Who the Fuck has Toney beat? To make anyone think he has a chance? Toney is old and washed up. Wlad is a young, athletic assassin. James is going to be in your dreams...as long as you live.

This would be another mismatch for James.... He'd have a much better chance against Wlad than he would VK though. If Toney can get some early body work in and take a bunch of punishment then he could fuck over old wladdy boy. what the fuck is on killa cam's mind with this pink and purple shit? lol. I agree that Toney has a better chance against Wlad than he does against his big bro.

Playing Opossum wont cut it. A small, tubby, blown up middleweight who relies on his boxing skill and counterpunching such as Toney, is not near agressive enough to beat Wladimir. A poster earlier described how "If Toney could take some punishment for a while, survive, then turn up the heat, he may have a chance". This is the only shot he would have. Toney is too slow, to avoid a single punch of Wlad's as well as easy as hell to hit. Jirov showed this by tagging him repeatedly on the inside of their fight. With the added weight, Toney's ring generalship has gone completely down the tube. Even If Toney was the same size as Wlad, I would still pick him to get stopped or beat beyond recognition by the big athlete. Landing clean punches would be a NON factor. Wlad could hurt Toney by punching his gloves. The minute he lands a jab on James, and he tastes that power, he will go to the ropes....and pull that opossum bullshit. Would look exactly like Wlad/Mercer where one man gets obliterated. For one, people need to get off Toney's balls. There is nothing special about him as a heavyweight. He does not hit hard at this weight, he does not have the size, and all he basically has, is his mouth to sell fights. I am still picking him to K.O. Ruiz though, who is a disgrace to boxing along with his bald, fat counterpart. Who the Fuck has Toney beat? To make anyone think he has a chance? Toney is old and washed up. Wlad is a young, athletic assassin. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

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I think he's pulling your chain.

JoeBoxer, I thought Wladimir was a Gold Medalist in 1996 Olympics? No? Also how could they have fought in the Olympics if they were completely different weight classes? Can anyone help me out on this one...?

Actually I guess you guys didn't know. This fight allready happened back in the Olympics and James Toney kicked Wlads ass. I have a video tape of it and I will probably upload it sometime next week. JoeBoxer, I thought Wladimir was a Gold Medalist in 1996 Olympics? No? Also how could they have fought in the Olympics if they were completely different weight classes?

Toney is a middleweight. He does not proven himself to have a better chin than Brewster. I mean Jorge Castro has an iron chin, probably better than Toney's, but you can't imagine him going up against Wlad without getting stopped. At some point a fighter is limited by the size of his frame and Wlad hits like a mack truck.

I would love to see this fight, but it would not be competetive Toney has even a better chin than Lamon Brewster, and is the best defensive fighter on the planet. Nothing Wlad has would be able to stop Toney. Wlad would get Tired, start throwing lazy punches Toney would start countering hard and knock Wlad out. But it would be extremely entetaining to see the former middleweight James Toney knock out the giant Robot Wladimir Klistchko. This fight might happen, because Toney knows he can beat Wlad, Wlad is a big name, and Wlad would take the fight because it would be a chance to restore his prestige and regain a championship.