Thoughts on the term "bum"...

:lurk: who I would call a bum but apparently you can't call Joey Gamache a bum because he wasn't THAT much worse than Caesar Chavez or Duran (my ass he wasn't). : That right there is acronymed: S.T.U.P.I.D. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

Director, You're a douchebag. Plain and simple. Let's not be diplomatic anymore. You've had a few useful things to contribute but overall you behave like a scumbag. Your time is up, the game is old. No one gives a shit about what you have to say anymore. By the way, using profanity doesn't make you sound hard. You just come across as sounding like what you are, and if you don't know what that is, reread my first sentance.

Buster Douglas was a "bum" he could have never beaten tyson right??? o wait he did damn :p well a bum is someone who stands no chance and like alot of fighters have proven, everyone has a chance to beat anyone else.

Kevin Kelley and Naseem Hamed were world class fighters, period...........Rockin' Its an inside joke...read the fantasy fight section titled "Foreman vs. Naseem Hamed" to see just why I said that :D

Kevin Kelley and Naseem Hamed were bums.

Is any fighter in the world a bum? Has there ever been a bum in boxing history? Can you give me an example of a bum, based on what they do in the ring, not outside of the ring. This is a bum: http://www.klitschko.com/duels/boxers/photo/mike_acklie.jpg And this is how bums fight: http://s10.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1IFFM1HX87F0Y227Z7K4ZPSQO6

Is any fighter in the world a bum? Has there ever been a bum in boxing history? Can you give me an example of a bum, based on what they do in the ring, not outside of the ring.

Director, You're a riot. Someone confronts you for the loudmouth fool that you are and the only thing you can come up with is a prepared response: "your gay". You remind me of a cartoon character, Jimbo, from the Simpsons. I'm still waiting for you to contribute something worthwhile to the thread. All you've done is rehash the same tired arguments. I don't think you have a single person who really understands where you're coming from. Now, I'm all for you being your own person and having an opinion but there's a point where you need to step back and take a look at yourself. I think you'd be embarassed if you saw what I see.

Brooklyn Bomber, Kronk is not the gym that I am working out of right now. My gym is very low key and a good place for my boy to relax and learn. We will be going back to kronk in a month or 2. IF master director talked that shit at my gym they would just throw him out. If he talked that shit down at Kronk Bam would come alive. "WE GOT FRESH MEAT HERE, THE FRESH MEAT NEEDS SOME GLOVES AND A HEADGEAR!!!!! And then theyd send Marlon or somebody to work himover to see if he can back up anything that he says. Balled up in a corner and on the canvas, the masterdirector would find that his mouth is his worst enemy. The only thing is that after Marlon made you his bitch in the ring he would still have more respect for you than to say that you suck donkey balls and slurp the cum.... Whats up now MD?............Rockin :boxing: hahaha I'm lookin forward to meetin Bam Maybe they'd put him in with Octavio Lara, Ronald Hearns or Vivian Harris

Ya know masterdirector, I used to be amused with your wit. You are obviously a person with a descent i.q. and a funny sense of humor at times. But to say that Gatti sucks donkey balls? Dude, if Gatti was any where close to you, you would not speak like that about him. #1 because you know that it is not true and #2 because he wouldnt fly you to no ranch to make you his bitch, he would do it on the spot. My apologies for suggesting that you have ever had the gloves on. You see, because that is where you really learn the sport. You can watch your television and read all of the aticles that you can find and you still wont know shit. 99% of the people on this forum understand more than you do, I am not knocking them because they have never fought, they debate as observers and lovers of the sport. But I am knocking you for the way that you think you know it all. Plain and simple you crossed a line that is very real to me. And let me be the first inline to tell you that you dont know shit!!!!!!!!!. You are intelligent, that is obvious. You are proper in your speech as well. But the garbage that falls from your mouth leaves me to wonder...............Rockin' :boxing: Ya people like that are stupid Rock come in chat

I'm not a boxer, never claimed to be one, never want to be one. Again, nobody fucking reads what I typed. Bum is a relative term, period. Is Gatti a bum compared to Reggie Strickland? No. But I don't typically talk about Strickland. I usually talk in terms of fighters that I like. Compared to Mayweather, as I've fucking said 800000000 fucking times today alone, Gatti is a fucking bum, period. Gatti sucks cock. He's shitty. Yes, compared to Mayweather, Gatti sucks donkey balls and slurps up all that magical cum and flies to Neverland Ranch to be Michael Jackson's bitch. Compared to say...Bobby Geipert, Gatti is fucking Muhammad Ali and isn't a bum. Gatti should be commended for the things he's done? Sure. Point those things out. Nobody has pointed out anything commendable Gatti has done. 85-90 percent win record? So the hell what Rockin? Joe Mesi is undefeated. That doesn't prove anything. So come on people, name all the GOOD fighters Gatti has beat. I've already done it for you. Ruelas and like Millet and that's about it. Then look at the people he's lost to. And who he has struggled in beating. There's no reason why anybody truly good should be struggling with Mickey Ward or especially Wilson Rodriguez. And anybody good would be able to make weight against Joey Gamache and not cheat at the weigh in. But I guess that is OK that Gatti weighed over 140 against a shitty fighter that doesn't matter like Gamache and ends up ending his career. Yeah, that's fucking commendable. Gatti's not a bum. That's disgraceful calling a guy of such great character a bum. Give me a break. Let's say I won't be the least bit sad if Gatti fights a guy that weighs 20 lbs above him and puts him in the hospital. He'd be deserving of the same he did to Gamache. I read what ur saying and what ur tryin to say. Gatti in his past did not have such a successful career, but ever since bein partners with Buddy McGirt, he's looking to change that. Come June 25 and you'll see. I think he will beat PBF and he would destroy Cotto, who he would not beat is Kostya Tszyu and Vivian Harris.

Gatti, is in no way a bum. He might not be the best fighter in the world but he comes to fight and comes to win. It makes me sick to think that people would write that he is a bum. They guy wins probably 85-90% of his bouts, that is not a bum. i agree. cheers bro!

People are idiots. They don't look at the big picture. Roy Jones dominated for 10+ years and loses twice and all people remember is that he lost to Tarver and Johnson. Just like Randy Moss, he is one of the best recievers in football but he'll drop a big pass and thats all people focus on. he fought against nobodies and lost to nobodies ;)

lol :boxing: Alright, dude, seriously...you need some meds. I have no desire to call you names, only to debate boxing but without acting like a kid. Gatti is not a bum, and he is not a great fighter either. That's my stance and I'm tired of telling you why because your perspective is very close-minded and cannot be altered by any evidence. "Bum" is the worst thing any fighter can be, and Gatti is no "bum". He's had enough success to not be called that. If you cannot admit that, I feel sorry for you. Half the points I offered to you, you could not even defend. Wake up. :bottle:

lol Ah, so we find out the REAL reason you hate the word "Bum." Its because you know you are one. Get over it, bum. And you proved my point with your argument fool. LOL...ok? Why would they rank me, I haven't even fought at the pro level. Even so, I'm capable of handling myself with pro fighters. So much for "proving your point". :) And there's no way you can say Gatti is even as good as Mayweather, let alone better. So, as I have fucking said, Gatti is a bum relative to Mayweather. You dumb fuck. I never said Gatti was as good as Mayweather. I have simply said that Gatti is not a bum, and does not deserved to be called that, and you are pretty limited in more ways than one if you cannot compare Gatti and Mayweather without using the term bum. It's about politeness, respect for a fighter, and true understanding of the sport. You make it sound like Gatti got obliterated by no-name fighters who have losing records. You are the one who asserts that Gatti is a bum, and apparently you are arguing that someone can legitimately say Ali is overrated due to his struggles vs Spinks (still scratching my head over that one). Here: :bottle:

You're the closest thing to a bum this forum has to offer. Even Imnorw, who is a bigot with poor typing skills, has the decency to argue upfront with people he disagrees with on the forum. You, on the other hand, send negative karma and private derogatory comments like a little bitch. Also, for future reference, the Scott Baio stuff isn't entertaining or funny in the least.

People need to consider the context of words. I throw the word bum around all the time when I talk about fighters I hate. Usually I'll qualify it if I need to. The word bum, by me and others, is used relatively. Relative to others at 140, Gatti IS a bum. A mediocre fighter, compared to good fighters, is a bum. A guy with a padded record is a bum. Many words have many different meanings. The word love for example. I love Dr. Pepper...but I'm not going to marry him. I love girls' asses, but not the same way that I love animals. I love kids, but not the same way I would love a girlfriend. Etc. (yep, I'm opening myself up for plenty of jokes here, pick away) I'm not about to change my calling Gatti a bum. Sorry, but a guy that twice lost to Ivan Robinson, lost to Manfredy, lost to King Solomon (who?), lost to Mickey Ward (a true bum), and struggled with Rodriguez does not deserve to be called a really good fighter. That isn't even a B level fighter. That's a C level fighter. And if you have to sit there and argue about the use of the word bum, you obviously don't get it or just like to argue about stupid shit. Maybe these guys shouldn't get into boxing if they're not willing to take criticism. Cause know what? It doesn't matter how good you are, there will be people to criticise the hell out of you. You can't name one boxer that someone can't argue was overrated. Marciano- overrated because he was strategically manuvered through his career. Only defended his title a couple choice times after winning it. Blah blah blah Ali- overrated cause he struggled with Leon Spinks, a guy that was only 7-0 at the time. Tyson- lost to Douglas, lost to Holyfield, Lewis, Danny Williams etc etc...anybody can argue anybody was overrated You're the Bum...You are SO fuckin' stupid...yes, Tyson and Marciano may be overrated by the public..but underrated inside the boxing world, Ali did lose to a Leon Spinks, but exactly how old was Ali? VERY OLD! That Ali that fought Liston, Frazier, and Foreman would destroy Leon Spinks. Yes Gatti does have 6 losses, but that was in the past, ever since signing with buddy mcgirt, he has changed everythinng and become a way better fighter, the gatti today would beat all the people that beat him except De La Hoya who gave him a beating..and Gatti went through some big wars so i dunno how he's overrated

lol You're just wrong. Gatti IS a bum. That isn't my opinion, it's fact. Prove to me otherwise. So the Ring says he's in the top 10 at 140? So what? That doesn't make him not a bum. And the Ring isn't the authority on everything in boxing. How about thinking for yourself rather than letting The Ring tell you how to think? The Ring also said Kostya Tszyu was still number 1 at 140 when he had been inactive for 2 years. So fuck off, queer. Wow...need a Zanex? The Ring is much more an authority than you. I do think for myself, and box by the way, thanks for your concern. Zoo came back and proved why he should have been kept number one by bitch-slapping the guy everyone thought was number 1 in Zoo's absence. Gatti lost 2 very close decisions with Robinson, one of which he might have won if he had not been deducted for a low blow. Also, Gatti lost on a cut to Manfredy who at the time was considered one of the best fighters in that weight-class. Gatti was on the winning end of multiple fights of the year. This doesn't make him great, because he is not great...he's simply NOT a bum, though, and that's my only point.

lol And if you have to sit there and argue about the use of the word bum, you obviously don't get it or just like to argue about stupid shit. Maybe these guys shouldn't get into boxing if they're not willing to take criticism. Cause know what? It doesn't matter how good you are, there will be people to criticise the hell out of you. You can't name one boxer that someone can't argue was overrated. The only thing that is obvious is people who throw that term around probably would not have the balls themselves to step into the ring, don't have very developed English skills, and have to revert to name-calling to make their point. Boxers take criticism all the time...maybe the fans should take some, or can YOU handle that? It appears not. Ali- overrated cause he struggled with Leon Spinks, a guy that was only 7-0 at the time. Anyone who makes that argument is a complete moron. Sure anyone can say anyone is overrated, but that doesn't make it true. I can say George Bush is an extraterrestrial, so what? Ali was 36 when he struggled with Spinks and had been fighting for 18 years.

lol Relative to others at 140, Gatti IS a bum. A mediocre fighter, compared to good fighters, is a bum. A guy with a padded record is a bum. It doesn't matter, it's still rude to use it. In any case, it is only your OPINION that Gatti isn't good at 140. Then again, he is ranked top 10 at 140 by Ring and the major belts, so how in the hell can he be a bum? Simple answer...he is not. You don't have to disrepect a fighter to show how good another fighter is. If you have to stoop to that to prove your point, that's pretty pathetic.