So both Klitckos are white. Nicolae Valuev is white. Andrew Golota is white. The guy that almost fought Vlad but pulled out is white. Vitali is the first white heavyweight champion since Rocky Marciano.
Also Joe Mesi and Ty Fields are white. Only Joe Mesi and Ty Fields are reffered to as the great white hopes. Why is this? With so many white people in the top ten, why are only Americans referred to as the great white hope? Do white Europeans not count???
I don't get it. Should they change the name to the great American White Hope or just the American Hope?
the great white hope only applies to white americans, joe mesi tommy mossison and tye feilds are white hypes, isnt ruiz liek a PR?
I know alot of people who even think he's Mexican.
Disrespecting Ruiz because you don't like to watch hugging is ignorant. You arent a fighter, you don't know how it is to be in there with a guy who could unstuck your VW bug out of the mud with a left hook, understand? Take Bruno for example, they tested his power and it measured around 0.63 ton. When your brain is on the line, it means that the way you see the world, your motherfucking sense of smell, taste, and knowledge of who you are, friends,family,memory, is all on the line too. you risk it all just by going between those ropes into that square circle, looking at people like McClellan who took one bad shot behind the head, one bad punch made him a half deaf blind vegatable for life, left to be cared for by relatives. With this in mind, developing a hugging style that wins fights isn't exactly a bad idea. He overpowers the tendons before they hit him, weakening his opponent's punches, it's actually quite an interesting style to watch if you know what he's doing. When he's moving in and 'hugging' as you say, he is really probably not only blocking punches but weakening the punching muscles of the other guy, and also tiring the other guy out by leaning all over him. You simply see it as hugging because you are 90% of what the world is composed off, the ignorant masses, and my purpose is to 'correct' your thinking, to save you future 'corrections' from others, so don't take this as a flame.
I suggest you show fighters in general more respect, hopefully after this post you'd even show Strickland some respect, maybe I taught you something.
Fantastic response. Especially :D at the unstuck your VW bug out of the mud with a left hook comment.
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why are only Americans referred to as the great white hope? QUOTE]
I personally, in the course of conversation, written or oral, refer to any white fighter as "the great white hope". I simply refer to them as a fighter. I guess people who bring skin tone into the conversation have a few issues they should work out, but that's just me.
Disrespecting Ruiz because you don't like to watch hugging is ignorant. You arent a fighter, you don't know how it is to be in there with a guy who could unstuck your VW bug out of the mud with a left hook, understand? Take Bruno for example, they tested his power and it measured around 0.63 ton. When your brain is on the line, it means that the way you see the world, your motherfucking sense of smell, taste, and knowledge of who you are, friends,family,memory, is all on the line too. you risk it all just by going between those ropes into that square circle, looking at people like McClellan who took one bad shot behind the head, one bad punch made him a half deaf blind vegatable for life, left to be cared for by relatives. With this in mind, developing a hugging style that wins fights isn't exactly a bad idea. He overpowers the tendons before they hit him, weakening his opponent's punches, it's actually quite an interesting style to watch if you know what he's doing. When he's moving in and 'hugging' as you say, he is really probably not only blocking punches but weakening the punching muscles of the other guy, and also tiring the other guy out by leaning all over him. You simply see it as hugging because you are 90% of what the world is composed off, the ignorant masses, and my purpose is to 'correct' your thinking, to save you future 'corrections' from others, so don't take this as a flame.
I suggest you show fighters in general more respect, hopefully after this post you'd even show Strickland some respect, maybe I taught you something.
yes that is true, he does deserve some respect, anyone who steps into a boxing ring is a brave guy, and ruiz has worked hard to achieve where he is today, saying someone is boring is one thing, but not considering that the guy at least has some talent and should be given some respect is another
Dude, there are countless boxers and journalists who say the same thing I do about Ruiz. I did't come up with this conclusion on my own. I listened to those who are boxers and trainers who say Ruiz is a bum. I show fighters in general A LOT of respect. I don't have to respect Ruiz. Perhaps you learned something today : everyone has an opinion. Mine is just more correct than yours. ;)
"dude", how about you hook me up with some of your fruit snacks? only if it's cool with your mom though.
For some reason only Americans can be labled with the great white hope label.
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If I was to become a fighter, I certainly wouldn't be hugging people - that's not fighting.
He's a bum. Say it with me. John Ruiz = bum. Intiende?
Disrespecting Ruiz because you don't like to watch hugging is ignorant. You arent a fighter, you don't know how it is to be in there with a guy who could unstuck your VW bug out of the mud with a left hook, understand? Take Bruno for example, they tested his power and it measured around 0.63 ton. When your brain is on the line, it means that the way you see the world, your motherfucking sense of smell, taste, and knowledge of who you are, friends,family,memory, is all on the line too. you risk it all just by going between those ropes into that square circle, looking at people like McClellan who took one bad shot behind the head, one bad punch made him a half deaf blind vegatable for life, left to be cared for by relatives. With this in mind, developing a hugging style that wins fights isn't exactly a bad idea. He overpowers the tendons before they hit him, weakening his opponent's punches, it's actually quite an interesting style to watch if you know what he's doing. When he's moving in and 'hugging' as you say, he is really probably not only blocking punches but weakening the punching muscles of the other guy, and also tiring the other guy out by leaning all over him. You simply see it as hugging because you are 90% of what the world is composed off, the ignorant masses, and my purpose is to 'correct' your thinking, to save you future 'corrections' from others, so don't take this as a flame.
I suggest you show fighters in general more respect, hopefully after this post you'd even show Strickland some respect, maybe I taught you something.
john ruiz is puerto rican you idiot, he isnt white
As a puerto rican whos black, i can assure you, those puerto ricans with white skin and straight hair take more after their spanish/european counterparts, hes white.
I personaly don't care what color their skin is. I care most about boxers that kick ass. They should call them "the Great AssKicker".
Vitali Kicks Ass!
Mike Tyson used to Kick Ass!
Marvin Hagler Kicked Ass!
George Forman Kicked Ass!
Chris Byrd Ki..............well......runs away then slaps like a black Larry from the three stooges.
Morrison I think was really the last to carry that title.
And actually Morrison won a title- the WBO title by beating Foreman. Foreman went from that loss to the Moorer fight where he won and was considered The Champ. Something to think about...
But there are numerous whites who have held heavyweight titles since Marciano (Shultz,Botha, etc)- they just weren't undisputed champs -there are a lot less undisputed HW champs than you think- esp since Tyson. In the 90's someone always had one of the belts and another guy would have one, or maybe someone would have two- Moorer, Bowe, Lewis, Holyfield, Foreman, etc. Another something to think about...
the great white hope is an american born white dude, perfect example was tommy morrison thats a great white hope, klitschkos aint american they dont count