why are people calling the pac and morales figtht close??

cvt21y ago

i was rooting for pac since i do have filipino blood. but after the marquez fight i knew all morales had to do was box to win. erik exceeded my expectations even more when he DELIBERATLEY taunted manny by switching to south paw in the 12th. first off...the gloves- anyone who has been in the ring will tell you that no matter what kind of gloves you have and at the level these guys are fighting it won't matter. besides, erik threw more compact short punches and the reyes gloves would have given pac more problems. secondly...morales can jab. he kept pac at a distance (HIS distance) and smacked him with right strights alternating to the body and to the head. pac has a 'feeler' jab that kinda marks for his straight left...which if you think about it will telegraph where it is headed. pac needed to have a jab that stung...or at least learn how to counter like a southpaw and go over morales' jab with his left straight. nope...all he knows is to go foward and give out that 1-2, 1-2 combo. thirdly...short punches. my god. after barrera having such success with short hooks to the body and uppercuts up close to moroales...you would think pac would train for it. nope. his manilla ice was a dud. his left uppercut was non-existent. he fought at a distance and backed up straight with a taller bigger guy. fourthly...let's be honest. 115-113?...i rooted for pac but gimme a break. morales dictated that fight. watch that fight again. the rounds where manny won (except the 1st the 12th) morales was taking a breather. this was not close. i've watched the fight 3 times already.pac needs to go back to the drawing board and learn some lateral movement and to school up on some short punches (plus get some discipline on not to press the issue...a good counter is just as good as running foward....lol). my hat goes off to these two fighters. but pac needs to lay off and more ring smart.

Comments (20)

beanstalk

is it possible to look at my other posts? help me out here so you will be able to see. i'll try to look for it. Here was my take before the fight: i really thought Pac has no chance moving up at 130 and making his first fight against Erik. I really thought EM will be stronger than Pac for this fight, ring brilliance aside.

21y ago

Run8964

oops, 'got you there. i won lots of money for EM via UD on this one. HAHA! I got one post that says EM will win. Put Your Money Where Your Name is. at least place it in your wallet so we can see exactly how you are "rolling in dough" or "holdin the goldin goose" or some other cheesy addeage. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

21y ago

beanstalk

That works both ways, Maybe you were rooting for pac. oops, 'got you there. i won lots of money for EM via UD on this one. HAHA! I got one post that says EM will win.

21y ago

SacTown1

PEOPLE!!! Morales WON THE FIGHT! Who cares if it was by 1 point or 12, a win is a win is a win!!!!!

21y ago

ULTIMATE

the fight seemed closer than it really was to MOST people, including the judges. Maybe you were rooting for EM while watching the fight. c'mon guys, admit it. if this was a blowout, then EM had a BLOWOUT loss to MAB. That works both ways, Maybe you were rooting for pac. No matter who i was rooting for i watched the fight objectively and have watched it numerous times. Fights are scored on effectiveness and ring generalship right? Admit it that was Morales most of the fight. It wasnt a blow out but i had Morales winning the fight 8 rounds to 4.

21y ago

beanstalk

I think the fight seemed closer than it really was to some people the fight seemed closer than it really was to MOST people, including the judges. Maybe you were rooting for EM while watching the fight. c'mon guys, admit it. if this was a blowout, then EM had a BLOWOUT loss to MAB. this will not be fight of the year candidate if it was one-sided. and i'm confident it will be.

21y ago

ULTIMATE

I think the fight seemed closer than it really was to some people because they were counting the amount of punches pac was throwing and not actually measuring how effective he was. Morales Was the more effective guy most of the fight. Pac would throw a 4 punch combo up close but they were at such a close distance and erik smothered them and came back with crisper jabs and right hands that repeatedly caught pacquiao off balance and stunned him in quite a few rounds and snapped his head back. The fight was good but if you go by Effective aggressiveness and Ring Generalship it was Morales hands down.

21y ago

m00ks

you know i am not a huge morales fan but i really did want him to win. i have to pull for my mexican bros. i like manny but not most of his fans. alot of you guys on this site are awesome though. so i can say that in the 12th i was scared but knew manny couldn't hurt him too bad. He sure sold you and all of us to the drama though. Morales has that one of a kind skill. But of course if he was as conservative as mayweather, b-hop or roy jones (in his prime)... he wouldn't have amaassed such a large fan base. Guy does it on purpose which makes him fun to watch.

21y ago

oldgringo

21y ago

DR_FREECLOUD

Excellent post. As much as it pained me to see, thats' what I saw the second time around. But when Morales switched to southpaw, ah shit I was just praying for a KO to teach that punk Morales a humility lesson lol That would have been stupid and funny. you know i am not a huge morales fan but i really did want him to win. i have to pull for my mexican bros. i like manny but not most of his fans. alot of you guys on this site are awesome though. so i can say that in the 12th i was scared but knew manny couldn't hurt him too bad.

21y ago

Run8964

I think everyone needs to give credit where it is due for christ's sake. Manny is a hell of a fighter, and warrior with great punching power and stamina. One can question his ring intelligence, which I think is his worst facet. If he learns from this loss, this will only make him stronger. Look at the physical condition he is in, and the tools he has. That being said though, Morales is just on another level IMO. He has been beating Class "A" competition in the states for years. Manny has had a few decent matchups, but one can ultimately question his fights in the Phillipines, where he was beating up fishermen. Manny is a hell of a fighter, but look at the 1st tier guys. They surpass him in ring intelligence...and it shows when manny was made semi-akward against JMM and Morales. Someone mentioned the "Shane Mosley Syndrome". That is a pretty decent comparison. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

21y ago

oldgringo

Excellent post. As much as it pained me to see, thats' what I saw the second time around. But when Morales switched to southpaw, ah shit I was just praying for a KO to teach that punk Morales a humility lesson lol That would have been stupid and funny. I haven't seen the fight yet STILL, but its sounds like he almost really made a mistake with his raging machismo. Erik and his fuckin pride... That woulda been like the Campbell/Peden fight. If Pac did knock him out after doing that, Morales would have had to hide under a rock for the rest of his life.

21y ago

cvt

i liked the interview in the end: Larry Merchant:'..honestly Erik, you loved standing toe to toe with him...' Morales:'...'did you like it?...' Larry Merchant:'....' I LOVED IT! ' definately a night for warriors...

21y ago

m00ks

i had this fight 8 rounds to 3. if thats what you call close then by all means it was close. but what made most feel that it was a closer fight were those that were only counting punches. while manny landed several great shots most of his punches were missing or grazing the target. sure he made it exciting by charging and throwing wildly. but most didn't connect. taking all things that go into scoring a fight into consideration, morales blew him away. ring generalship, effective aggressivness, defense, and clean punches landed. now about this cut. if you can watch the fight again and watch manny after round 2. he's breathing heavy, spitting blood and coughing. erik was calm and collected. manny was already swallowing blood. once the cut came manny felt like he was way behind and came out in the sixth looking for the ko. if anything the cut made manny dangerous fo a breif period in 6 and 7. but morales was smart and battled when he had too. when you lose blood you lose power. morales dictated the fight beginning to end. i mean c'mon even in the 12th round he had manny doing what he wanted him to. thats why he switched southpaw, he wanted to go to war and prove that he could not be ko'd by manny. was it a close fight? depends on who you were pulling for i guess. Excellent post. As much as it pained me to see, thats' what I saw the second time around. But when Morales switched to southpaw, ah shit I was just praying for a KO to teach that punk Morales a humility lesson lol That would have been stupid and funny.

21y ago

DR_FREECLOUD

Who's the best guy for the job? maybe mcgirt..maybe one of the mayweathers.

21y ago

oldgringo

Morales and Pacquiao should join forces and create a promotion team ala DLH/Hop. It should be called, "El Pinoyble" promotions or something like that. Actually they shouldn't nevermind.

21y ago

DR_FREECLOUD

21y ago

mauricio95

hat off great thread :cool: that exactly the way i saw it

21y ago

baya

mcgirt, hands down.

21y ago

m00ks

sorry for buttin in guys but i gotta say that i don't think its too late. manny can use his determination towards perfecting his style into a boxer/puncher. manny at present is very 1 dimensional. manny is young and seems to love the sport. he prolly lives by the old saying "what does not kill me, makes me stronger" roach is a good trainer but manny needs someone else to transform him. if he doesn't change he will not last long as a top contender. i hope we see more of this guy personally. Who's the best guy for the job?

21y ago