Michalczewski stopped by Fabrice Tiozzo

1991-09-16 Pro debut for Michalczewski Michalczewski announced his retirement on a press conference in Hamburg Germany on June 1st 2005 :confused:

Yeah but most do see Johnson as the champ, Tiozzo definately deserves a shot. Wrongly so though, I don't expect Johnson to reign for too long. I could be wrong, but I wouldn't bet on it.

Yeah but most do see Johnson as the champ, Tiozzo definately deserves a shot.

First time I had seen Tiozzo fight. He looked really good, he took a few shots but his punches were very accurate. I think the winner of Johnson/Tarver II should give him a shot at the title. Because Johnson or Tarver have any belts besides Johnson's "Ring Belt" which I'm not sure how RJJ got to begin with. Tiozzo has the WBA belt.

First time I had seen Tiozzo fight. He looked really good, he took a few shots but his punches were very accurate. I think the winner of Johnson/Tarver II should give him a shot at the title.

If you would've posted on this forum two years back and said that RJJ & DM were in line to fall off the radar in the next couple of years...how many people would've called bullshit? I'd say 99.9% if not the whole hunnid. BB

He's 35, always had problems to make weight, and often problems with his back. I was already surprised he could come back last year to stop Branco, and now DM it's a great accomplishement. I just don't see him making several title defenses against contenders, but just going after one big star and hang up. But he proved wrong many people so I could be wrong too (which I hope !) Yeah I'd like to see him fight Johnson. I think that he shouldn't retire until he noticably starts to lose it (which hasn't happened yet) or until he gets injured again.

He's 35, always had problems to make weight, and often problems with his back. I was already surprised he could come back last year to stop Branco, and now DM it's a great accomplishement. I just don't see him making several title defenses against contenders, but just going after one big star and hang up. But he proved wrong many people so I could be wrong too (which I hope !)

Yes he's got to hurry, one last fight and that's it! Johnson would be a good opponent, and he could take him I think. Why do you think that he only has one fight left in him?

Yes he's got to hurry, one last fight and that's it! Johnson would be a good opponent, and he could take him I think.

I saw bits of it + last round on the french sport news, that's it. If I had the whole fight I would have laready uploaded it Oh well, but congradulations to Tiozzo. He seems to get no respect. The guy is a legit champion who barely lost to Hill when he was the man at LHW and he just happened to get caught with a good punch in their second fight at CW. He beat up on McCallum before RJJ did. Its going to be interesting to see how much noise he makes at LHW now.

How about uploading the fight. I saw bits of it + last round on the french sport news, that's it. If I had the whole fight I would have laready uploaded it

you see you can pick out the bad decisions which happen in the states, because they are seldom....which is still bad enough....also castillo - mayweather was a shocking decision. although in germany, it seems that perhaps every 2nd title fight that goes to the cards is controversial. i don't enjoy saying this, but i have been watching nearly every title fight in germany for the past 5 years.........it is disgraceful, yet nobody in germany seems to worry about it...although the crowd sometimes actually do cheer the "real winner" although the official loser. have you guys ever heard of danny green? pls what is your explanation for his DQ? Way to completely avoid my post and post random exaggerated crap like this. :fing02:

Tiozzo is a very strong character, tough as nails inside so when he decided 1 year ago to loose 40 pounds and get the title back it really meant something happened in his mind. Now he sees the opportunity for the big payday he should have got a while ago, and he really deserves a mega fight mega bucks. I really love the guy, and it was so good to see him tear DM's ass and the judges along (wasn't it moochi ? ;-) How about uploading the fight.

Now that I think back I think the only thing about the DM-Harmon fight that caught me was the fact that DM seem3ed to struggle a good bit with Harmon (fight was rougher than it should have been). As for the 2nd Hall fight, I never suspected much about that, just the 1st one. As for those years you think DM would have beaten RJJ, I just don't see it happening. I thought DM was a very good fighter but not enough foot or handspeed to get to RJJ enough to beat him. We obviously will continue to disagree on this point but that's ok. Yeah DM did struggle with Harmon as DM was almost completely gone at the time. It was his last win before he lost two in a row. Yeah I guess disagreement is alright. I just think that DM could have given Roy trouble because of the way Roy avoided the hardest hitters at every division. But you have to respect them both as boxers, which it seems like so few on each side of this actually do.

Tiozzo is a very strong character, tough as nails inside so when he decided 1 year ago to loose 40 pounds and get the title back it really meant something happened in his mind. Now he sees the opportunity for the big payday he should have got a while ago, and he really deserves a mega fight mega bucks. I really love the guy, and it was so good to see him tear DM's ass and the judges along (wasn't it moochi ? ;-)

I was very surprised by that. I thought Michaelzceski's power and pressure would get the job done. I guess it's because Tiozzo is back at 175 that has rejuvenated him. He is very strong there.

I didn't see Beyer-green, from what I heard green was battering beyer when he lsot his mind and delibarately headbutted him and got DQ'd...but any explanation from somebody who saw it is welcome :D danny was indeed belting beyer from pillar to post and beyer was bleeding profusely from the 3rd round on. He was bleeding that much, that in the 5th round even Green was covered in his blood. then after some rough tactics from both fighters it appeared that green headbutted beyer, and in the usual way beyer and all the german promoters were crying out loud. so the ref gave green a 2 point penalty....although simultaneously the doctor said the cut was too open, and this is where the germans hased their case on in the aftermath. the referee then said go to the score cards, which of course still would have been a points win for Green, but the promoters went absolutely spastic and argued that the headbutt caused the cut......yeah right that is why their was blood from the same cut for the past 3 rounds.... so after 10 minutes of intense pressure and intimidation, the ref succumbed to this and then gave a DQ decision. to add insult to injury, the replay showed that the headbutt did not touch the cut at all...... but as you might know, the boxing organization cannot change results, and this is why the germans don't give a fu.. as long as they have their title and live to fight another day..... the wbc ordered an immediate rematch, and it has taken nearly 2 years for it to eventuate....typical german. i have the fight on file....maybe i can upload it......

ok Now that I think back I think the only thing about the DM-Harmon fight that caught me was the fact that DM seem3ed to struggle a good bit with Harmon (fight was rougher than it should have been). As for the 2nd Hall fight, I never suspected much about that, just the 1st one. As for those years you think DM would have beaten RJJ, I just don't see it happening. I thought DM was a very good fighter but not enough foot or handspeed to get to RJJ enough to beat him. We obviously will continue to disagree on this point but that's ok.

you see you can pick out the bad decisions which happen in the states, because they are seldom....which is still bad enough....also castillo - mayweather was a shocking decision. although in germany, it seems that perhaps every 2nd title fight that goes to the cards is controversial. i don't enjoy saying this, but i have been watching nearly every title fight in germany for the past 5 years.........it is disgraceful, yet nobody in germany seems to worry about it...although the crowd sometimes actually do cheer the "real winner" although the official loser. have you guys ever heard of danny green? pls what is your explanation for his DQ? I didn't see Beyer-green, from what I heard green was battering beyer when he lsot his mind and delibarately headbutted him and got DQ'd...but any explanation from somebody who saw it is welcome :D