James Toney is over rated

James Toney is ranked in the top 5 of all heavyweights and all he beat was old Holyfield and one unknown guy named Booker who aint even that good. Hes over rated in the heavyweight division. I couldn't agree with you more. Lets see what happens when he fights a Heavy with some talent. I think James lights will be out.........

Tony Cleans up division Tony beat an old holyfield that beat a young Rahman. Tony beat a young Booker with one arm. Tony beats any top ten except Vitali. Who takes him? Golotta the polish nut puncher that fought such a stirring fight against Ruiz? Rahman that couldnt handle Holyfield? Outside of Vitali, a healthy Toney cleans up the division. Wait...Nigel Peter? Did you even watch his last fight? That left hook looks like its being thrown under water.

If toney isnt that great and has a big mouth and is rated #5 in WBA, WBC, IBF. Then why r the big guns dodging him? Maybe they know something we dont.

Indeed young Mike Tyson Jr. you are correct. Toney really has not proven himself at this weight. He defeated Holyfield who is way past his prime, he would have been Kayoed by a prime Holyfield. Toney must defeat a top Heavyweight in order to be taken seriously.

I have been waiting for another good fight from Toney since Jirov. I admire him for what he has done - but not been overly impressed. Look who beat Holy after Toney, and was is a full week after his fight with Toney that Booker got busted for drugs? I would love to see him in there with another capable Heavy - One of the Champs would be great. A fight with John "The Hugging Man" Ruiz would be intersesting because he has the boxing skills that Ruiz has not faced since Jones gave hime a sound whipping - but Toney desent fight like Jones and Ruiz laying on him would be tough for him. Toneys style is an infrount of the guy elusivness - that would be easier to hug against then Jones' where did he go defence. I think Toney could easily out box Ruiz - but I also though Frenz would out box him and Golota.

toney is a capable defensive fighter, he can take a punch and doesn't seem to be intimidated of anyone. his presence is good for the growth of the division.

James Toney is ranked in the top 5 of all heavyweights and all he beat was old Holyfield and one unknown guy named Booker who aint even that good. Hes over rated in the heavyweight division. James Toney's skill level speaks for itself and he is one of the most technically proficient fighters in the division. This is why I think he gets such a high ranking from boxing people because the man does have skill, especially in comparison to most other HWs. However his competition at HW has not been the greatest. So you do have a valid point.

lol If the fight ever took place, I'd definitely be rooting for Toney, I can't stand Ruiz lol

He'll probably just get injured again, I think the weight he's carrying right now is more than his body is able to deal with, as far as sports are concerned. I'm not sure he would beat Ruiz, I'd sure like to see him do it though lol. Interesting post. I may agree with you, but here's to hoping that you're dead wrong. I'm picking Toney, but I agree, Ruiz has proven that he's tough enough to (dare I think it?) beat better fighters.

Wow. I am soooo bored of this topic. Let me break it down for you again. Toney - old, blown-up middleweight, seems injury prone, not really proven at heavyweight. Also showed more skill and fighting spirit in his two outings so far than ANY FIGHTER IN THE TOP 50. Tangentially, Tyson could no longer beat a speed-bag, let alone a skillful in-fighter with a decent dig...that sounds suspiciously like Toney, doesn't it?

He'll probably just get injured again, I think the weight he's carrying right now is more than his body is able to deal with, as far as sports are concerned. I'm not sure he would beat Ruiz, I'd sure like to see him do it though lol.

James Toney is ranked in the top 5 of all heavyweights and all he beat was old Holyfield and one unknown guy named Booker who aint even that good. Hes over rated in the heavyweight division. I agree the guy has hardly done anything at heavweight.

Some people seem to believe that James Toney is the man. Why? Is it the WBC "Continental Americas Heavyweight" and IBA "Heavyweight Champ" titles? Or that whopping he put on the aging Evander? Or, could it be I missed something during that Jirov bout? Recently though, he got my attention with his domination of ...... Danny Green, now that's impressive. Really though, Toney had his day from 1991 to 94, notably against Barkley, but those are the 'ole days. He needs to beat "somebody", soon.

I don't think he is over rated he is a future hall of fame fighter and has great skill.

re Based on his wins at HW Toney is overrated a bit. But based on the skills we see him display in the ring he's right about where he belongs. The HW division really sucks.

i think toney can beat some of the big unskilled guys like mccline, brewster, etc.. but he'll have a hard time with byrd, VK or someone of that caliber... he's really unproven at heavy and with his age, size and injuries he may not become a factor....

i say put him uin with Ruiz and see if he can do a better job than RJ. That should provide us with some sort of answer.

James Toney is ranked in the top 5 of all heavyweights and all he beat was old Holyfield and one unknown guy named Booker who aint even that good. Hes over rated in the heavyweight division. Beating a shot Holyfied and a no name Booker is not enough to make Toney a great contender in the HW division. He has a lot to prove before he can be considered as such. Time is not on his side, so he should start quick now. :) :) :)

You do not like toney, and you do try to put him constantly in the negative and it is not a crusade... Ah ok. :) no crusade. i'm just tellin the truth. how is that a crusade.

Hey Tyson jr on his anti-Toney crusade again? Did we finish "james toney really loss against dave tiberi" already? http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=124616#post124616 :) Toney did something against the old fighter that the current HW IBF champ could not 10 months prior to the Toney fight. The old man was a contender just a year before and a HW champ 2 years before the fight. The old man also won against current contender Rahman in the year before the Toney fight. Ps Toney had no troubles with the head butts of the old man. The fight against the nobody was for the WBC Heavyweight Title mandatory challenger #1 spot. And some people loose against these kind of nobodies. Other people win against them, even when they hurt their arm (or leg) they win.. But Toney definitely got to prove himself this year against a legit HW to show he is still has a right to the spot he claimed. I aint on no anti toney crusade but i dont like him cause he runs his fat mouth and he aint even beat a real contender yet. You do not like toney, and you do try to put him constantly in the negative and it is not a crusade... Ah ok. :)