Is James Toney About to Turn the Lights Out on John Ruiz?

Toney will easily lose to Ruiz, but not one person here will bet money against Ruiz. They know deep down Toney is not a threat at heavy and are just waiting to see what happens still no takers on your bet? :confused:

Toney will easily lose to Ruiz, but not one person here will bet money against Ruiz. They know deep down Toney is not a threat at heavy and are just waiting to see what happens I'm not so sure. Toney is a solid fighter and ruiz is a joke. If it weren't for the size difference i'd easily hand the win to toney, and rjj proved that ruiz can go down to a smaller guy.

Toney will easily lose to Ruiz, but not one person here will bet money against Ruiz. They know deep down Toney is not a threat at heavy and are just waiting to see what happens

This may be a bad move for Toney. He is not nearly as mobile as Roy Jones was.

This is something I've never understood, the only ref that stopped Ruiz from holding was the one in his fight against RJJ. In that fight, RJJ kept away from him for most of the fight, but at the end, Ruiz was getting him on theropes every so often and every time that happened, the ref broke it up before anyone even had a chence to grab the others' arm or anything. Don't get me wrong, I can't stand Ruiz, and I'm glad he lost that fight, I'm just saying why was that ref the only one to ever take any action whatsoever?

I can see James Toney possibly winning a close decision against Ruiz but I don't see him winning against Byrd, Vitali or even Rahman. Vitali is a big question mark as far as I'm concerned, but not the other two. Rahman have both been inconcistent in their careers, but when they're in top form, Toney had been better, challenging for a pound for pound spot, which Rahman has never come close to doing. Furthermore, Rahman is more consistently inconsistent, even missing the point in the middle of fights. Against Byrd, Toney will benefit from a more solid frame and in-fighting skills that are just as good as the titlist's if not better. In the end some folks will think back to the Michael Nunn win, though the only true resmblance will be that he beat a slick boxer with a late rounds ko. And Ruiz will quit like the bitch he is.

james toney is a badass boxer, but he's never gonna get to the top of the heavyweight division at his age. he should drop back down to light heavy and end his carrear by winning a title there, go out in style instead of trying this suicide mission for the heavyweight title. These are words of wisdom.. :)

I think people underesimate Toney way to much. Vitali is good but he was sucking air against Williams if Toney can hold on for the first few rounds he is in much better shape than Williams and Vitali will be fighting for his life. Vitali is definitly the favorite but it will be close i think. Toney is much faster than any oppenents Vitali has fought, he also has better reflexes, and his chin will hold. Also Vitali likes to come foward if Toney can use his counter punching in the phone booth he has a chance to ko Vitali in the late rounds i think. (im not saying toney will win but he has a better chance than anyone seems to think) RUiz sucks toney in 8 I think that if VK and Toney fight, VK will just need to lean against him and use his weight against Toney, especially against the ropes, for these 'first few rounds' or even for the first 6 or so rounds.. then when the end of the fight nears, VK won't have to worry about Toney's 2nd wind or lightning speed. :cool:

hi, welcome to boxing. I'm sure once you learn a thing or two, you'll become an expert on the sport. But since you're not, I'll tell you that your punching power comes from your legs. Without your legs, you cannot win. then how does VK beat up on his opponents the entire fight with arm punches, eventually KO'ing them?? if he actually put his shoulders, hips, feet, etc into a powershot, the effects would be crushing...

Is James Toney About to Turn the Lights Out on John Ruiz? By Darren Nichols and G. Leon January 17, 2005 - If you are BoxingTalk member then you have already heard this in his latest interview on BoxingTalk, but according to Freddie Roach, James “Lights Out” Toney is in talks with John Ruiz to vie for the Quiet Man’s WBA title. Roach went on further to share that a victory against Ruiz would then set up a fight between Toney and the winner of Vitali Klitschko-Hasim Rahman which is slated for May. "There's a few different options out there for James and by the end of the week we should have eliminated all of them, but one," said Toney's promoter Dan Goossen. -boxingtalk.net Ruiz is a BUM!

there is pretty much no way king is letting ruiz fight toney...... this fight aint happening

Toney and Goossen are two of a kind. I have never heard a boxer and promoter talk as much shit and never back it up the way these two fuckheads do. Toney needs to fight someone legit in the heavyweight division because sooner or later everyone will get tired of hearing him running his diarrhea mouth.

I'm surprised you admit that. Change of heart? No its just a lot of people apparently yourself included think that just because I think Vitali is the best current heavyweight, that I think that he is a top 5 all time great.

Toney has a great shot at beating Ruiz and I think he can work him with that same right hook body/uppercut combo that he killed Booker with when Ruiz is coming in. toney won't let that holding shit go on for long without making Ruiz pay everytime he tries it. As for Toney/Vitali, time isn't helping James and if the fight ever does come off it would be a big time mismatch in size for sure. I highly doubt James could KO Vitali...maybe with severe body punishment but I wouldn't see it happenin. Toney would have to win a decision. It is my dream fight of the year however so I hope that they meet up. I think Toney would have a great shot against Byrd too. Rahman/Toney would look like Holy/Toney cept we'd see James get rocked more and he'd really have to be on top of his game for the whole fight.

I am no nutlicker toney is not even in my top 3 favorite fighters i like him but i just have a different view of how a fight with Vitali would unfold, we will see.

And Vitali is not as good as a prime Lewis... I'm surprised you admit that. Change of heart?

Lennox was able to do it... And Vitali is not as good as a prime Lewis...

Which should be a pretty safe bet as Vitali has had 2 legitimate KOs in his past 20 fights. Lennox was able to do it...

And I still owe Nautilus and Neuraxis 1,000,000 each if Vitali legitimately KOs Rahman... Which should be a pretty safe bet as Vitali has had 2 legitimate KOs in his past 20 fights.

man i hat Ruiz, he has the most annoying style, i want to see him get knockedout..i hope james toney is the man for the job...cuz that Ruiz bum has been around for too long now. You ain't lyin'