holyfield: toughest fighter ever??

Not in the same league as Marvin Hagler

Your title says it more eloquently than I ever could dude!

Exactly how many 185 pounders did Rocky fight, genius? Some of you guys really need to stick with "wrasslin'"!

How the hell can you start a "toughest fighters" thread and say "don't say Marciano"? :rolleyes: marciano was getting hit by 185 pound men in the infant years of boxing...holyfield has gotten by men like foreman lewis bowe tyson..although hurt...he still fought back

Holyfield certainly ranks as one of the toughest boxers ever, along with Hagler, Mike McCallum and George Foreman to name a few

they also never won 90 fights in a row. They also fought better quality of opposition.

Hagler, Marciano, and Holyfield never quit. Chavez, on the other hand... they also never won 90 fights in a row.

both Hagler and Holyfield where tough. but Hagler was not being hit by big HW's such as Bowe,tyson, LL either. Holy is in my opion the toughest ever. behind him i would have to go with Hagler,JCC, and Rocky, but as it was said before, Rocky wasn't fighting big hitters like Holyfield. Hagler, Marciano, and Holyfield never quit. Chavez, on the other hand...

both Hagler and Holyfield where tough. but Hagler was not being hit by big HW's such as Bowe,tyson, LL either. Holy is in my opion the toughest ever. behind him i would have to go with Hagler,JCC, and Rocky, but as it was said before, Rocky wasn't fighting big hitters like Holyfield.

How the hell can you start a "toughest fighters" thread and say "don't say Marciano"? :rolleyes: he does refer to Marciano in the opening thread.

It's hard to declare just one fighter as the toughest there ever was. There's simply no concrete basis to judge a fighter's toughness. However, i do believe Joe Grim should be mentioned. Most of the fighters that were already mentioned (Hagler, Holyfield, LaMotta, Marciano), they were all tough as nails and never stopped coming. However, unlike Grim, they had skill or power. Grim pretty much had nothing. He was a mediocre fighter who only won 3 of his 101 bouts. Still, he was possibly the toughest son of a bitch to ever grace the earth. As a below average middleweight, he fought the likes of Philadelphia Jack O'Brien, Bob Fitzsimmons, Joe Gans, Jack Blackburn, Jack Johnson, Johnny Kilbane, and Battling Levinksy. Sure, he never beat any of them, but he was never stopped by these far superior and often much larger opponents. Imagine being a defenseless, skill-less, and powerless middleweight against monsters like Fitzsimmons, O'Briend and Johnson. Grim was one tough dude.

Holyfield never stops throwing leather either. Except against Larry Donald.

Tyson has taken some hard shots but he has nowhere near the noggin that Holyfield has. Holyfield never stops throwing leather either. Tough SOB

Marvin Hagler was the toughest fighter ever. When Holyfield would say he wasn't hurt, people questioned that. Nobody questioned whether Hagler was ever hurt in a fight. Holyfield was tough, but Hagler was superhuman.

I'd have to say Chuvalo or Cobb take this distinction over Holy. Although Holy was tough son of a gun in his day.

I think Hagler was the toughest he got hit and it didnt even seem to phase him a bit.

Holyfield definitely in the "elite tough guys" group with Ali,Hagler,Marciano,Tyson etc What how can you mention Tyson??? He cant take being given a beating.

Holyfield definitely in the "elite tough guys" group with Ali,Hagler,Marciano,Tyson etc

Holyfield is a very tough guy. Other tough fighters are Hagler, Marciano, Mayorga and, maybe the toughest of, Ali ;) !

My vote goes to Marcianno. I cant think of another man on this planet that could have fought for a couple rounds after their nose split in half. I have been trying to find that picture showing the damage to Rocky's nose. How in the world cam anyone look at that and imagine that it is a shot of the WINNER?! One tough sonofabitch!